Posted: 2/24/2009 6:04:14 PM EDT
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I don't know why but I just was wondering why Lee Harvey chose the Carcano rifle.
He had been in the Marines and qualified with an M1. Was it because the rifle was cheap and easy to get? Or maybe no one would know but LHO. I think I might have answered my own question. Have a good day |
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He had a coupon for it out of "American Rifleman" magazine. Horse hockey, Devil Dog auf Deutsch! It was NOT a coupon but an advert. Purchase of Rifle by Oswald Shortly after the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle was found on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building,1 agents of the FBI learned from retail outlets in Dallas that Crescent Firearms, Inc., of New York City, was a distributor of surplus Italian 6.5-millimeter military rifles.2 During the evening of November 22, 1963, a review of the records of Crescent Firearms revealed that the firm had shipped an Italian carbine, serial number C2766, to Klein's Sporting Goods Co., of Chicago, Ill.3 After searching their records from 10 p.m. to 4 a.m. the officers of Klein's discovered that a rifle bearing serial number C2766 had been shipped to one A. Hidell, Page 119 Post Office Box 2915, Dallas, Tex., on March 20, 1963.4 (See Waldman Exhibit No. 7, p. 120.) According to its microfilm records, Klein's received an order for a rifle on March 13, 1963, on a coupon clipped from the February 1963 issue of the American Rifleman magazine. The order coupon was signed, in handprinting, "A. Hidell, P.O. Box 2915, Dallas, Texas." (See Commission Exhibit No. 773, p. 120.) It was sent in an envelope bearing the same name and return address in handwriting. Document examiners for the Treasury Department and the FBI testified unequivocally that the bold printing on the face of the mail-order coupon was in the handprinting of Lee Harvey Oswald and that the writing on the envelope was also his. 5 Oswald's writing on these and other documents was identified by comparing the writing and printing on the documents in question with that appearing on documents known to have been written by Oswald, such as his letters, passport application, and endorsements of checks.6 (See app. X, p. 568-569.) http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/chapter-4.html#purchase]http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/chapter-4.html#purchase]http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/chapter-4.html#purchase |
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The M1 would still be in active inventory in 1963. Probably wasn't available. Semi-auto would have been helpful though.
However, it is odd that a man, who was supposedly a good shot, would choose one of the admittedly worst shooing rifles to commit such a serious crime. One that requires precision and speed. A K98 would have been better, if they were available or probably any hunting rifle of that period. As for not having any money, he had a job, you'd think he could save up a few bucks to get a decent rifle if he was thinking of such a thing. |
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Keith and GT 86 nailed it, the Carcano was the cheepest, that was the only reason.
BTW, haven't read the posted info yet, but he tried to kill a retired anti commie officer a couple months earliar and missed. He also murdered police officer Tibbit. The fact that some moonbat loosers have made him out to be a hero is sick. about as bad as the truthers. Just one little pos who was in the wrong place at the right time and got damn lucky. May he burn in hell. Sparky, he couldn't afford a Garand, he also bought a Smith and Wesson .38 Special Snubbie. Carcano's actually shoot pretty straight if mechanically sound. 
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| The one thing I do find strange is how he defected to Russia and was then able to return and bring his soviet wife back to the US during the height of the cold war without much effort. Our state department should have not let him back in the country, but it wouldn't be the last time they dropped the ball. Conspiracy unlikely, gov incompatence, yes. |
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How did he find out the route of the presidential motorcade and when did he hear it. The farther back from the actual date of the event that he learned the route, the higher up his source. I think it was posted in the paper so people could come watch.... |
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How did he find out the route of the presidential motorcade and when did he hear it. The farther back from the actual date of the event that he learned the route, the higher up his source. I wonder if everybody else watching the motorcade had the same source. ALL of Dallas must have been in on this! 
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He had a coupon for it out of "American Rifleman" magazine. Horse hockey, Devil Dog auf Deutsch! It was NOT a coupon but an advert. Purchase of Rifle by Oswald Shortly after the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle was found on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building,1 agents of the FBI learned from retail outlets in Dallas that Crescent Firearms, Inc., of New York City, was a distributor of surplus Italian 6.5-millimeter military rifles.2 During the evening of November 22, 1963, a review of the records of Crescent Firearms revealed that the firm had shipped an Italian carbine, serial number C2766, to Klein's Sporting Goods Co., of Chicago, Ill.3 After searching their records from 10 p.m. to 4 a.m. the officers of Klein's discovered that a rifle bearing serial number C2766 had been shipped to one A. Hidell, Page 119 Post Office Box 2915, Dallas, Tex., on March 20, 1963.4 (See Waldman Exhibit No. 7, p. 120.) According to its microfilm records, Klein's received an order for a rifle on March 13, 1963, on a coupon clipped from the February 1963 issue of the American Rifleman magazine. The order coupon was signed, in handprinting, "A. Hidell, P.O. Box 2915, Dallas, Texas." (See Commission Exhibit No. 773, p. 120.) It was sent in an envelope bearing the same name and return address in handwriting. Document examiners for the Treasury Department and the FBI testified unequivocally that the bold printing on the face of the mail-order coupon was in the handprinting of Lee Harvey Oswald and that the writing on the envelope was also his. 5 Oswald's writing on these and other documents was identified by comparing the writing and printing on the documents in question with that appearing on documents known to have been written by Oswald, such as his letters, passport application, and endorsements of checks.6 (See app. X, p. 568-569.) http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/chapter-4.html#purchase]http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/chapter-4.html#purchase]http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/chapter-4.html#purchase THAT'S IT!!! BAN THE NRA!!!1!!!11!!!1  It's for the presidents.   
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How did he find out the route of the presidential motorcade and when did he hear it. The farther back from the actual date of the event that he learned the route, the higher up his source. I wonder if everybody else watching the motorcade had the same source. ALL of Dallas must have been in on this! It took a while to figure out the shooting position, get set up plan an escape. All of that had to take a couple of days or more. |
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A Garand for $90 and shipping for $1.50, oh man did I grow up in the wrong era. They actually have a picture of him holding up the rifle? What an idiot. Yeah but everyone does that without using the "inflation adjustment". I didn't start a full time job until 1968 and that was $1.60 an hour. So......1963 was $1.25 an hour x40hrs=$50 before taxes. So two weeks pay to get that rifle. How does that compare with prices today? With all the regs and stuff today of course it's more, but not that different. |
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How did he find out the route of the presidential motorcade and when did he hear it. The farther back from the actual date of the event that he learned the route, the higher up his source. I wonder if everybody else watching the motorcade had the same source. ALL of Dallas must have been in on this! It took a while to figure out the shooting position, get set up plan an escape. All of that had to take a couple of days or more. They printed the route in the Dallas papers as early as the evening edition on the 18th. That was common then so everyone could see the President. |
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Quoted: $90 in 1963 dollars is about $620 in 2009 dollars. Not a horrible price, but not exactly a door buster either. Quoted: A Garand for $90 and shipping for $1.50, oh man did I grow up in the wrong era. They actually have a picture of him holding up the rifle? What an idiot. Yeah but everyone does that without using the "inflation adjustment". I didn't start a full time job until 1968 and that was $1.60 an hour. So......1963 was $1.25 an hour x40hrs=$50 before taxes. So two weeks pay to get that rifle. How does that compare with prices today? With all the regs and stuff today of course it's more, but not that different. |
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Have a good day
Quit telling me what kind of day to have. I am a UNITED STATES citizen and can have whatever kind of day I want. If I want to sit on the pity pot and feel sorry for myself, it's none of your business! 
Actually, isn't it the government's business to make sure that you don't have to feel sorry for yourself no matter how much of a sorry case you are. What was a right to the pursuit of happiness is now a right to happiness. 
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Keith and GT 86 nailed it, the Carcano was the cheepest, that was the only reason. BTW, haven't read the posted info yet, but he tried to kill a retired anti commie officer a couple months earliar and missed. He also murdered police officer TibbitTippit. The fact that some moonbat loosers have made him out to be a hero is sick. about as bad as the truthers. Just one little pos who was in the wrong place at the right time and got damn lucky. May he burn in hell. Sparky, he couldn't afford a Garand, he also bought a Smith and Wesson .38 Special Snubbie. Carcano's actually shoot pretty straight if mechanically sound. JD Tippit The .38spec he used was a bastardized S&W. I believe he had a Colt barrel attached to confuse. |
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Quoted: Quoted: A Garand for $90 and shipping for $1.50, oh man did I grow up in the wrong era. They actually have a picture of him holding up the rifle? What an idiot. That pic has been discredited. No, it hasn't. Oswald's widow Marina admits to having taken the pictures. Microscopic analysis of the negatives matched them to the exclusion of all other cameras to Oswald's camera. Microscopic analysis of the grain pattern of the negatives and photogrametry analysis both prove conclusively that the pictures are real and unaltered. Oswald was indeed an idiot. |