[ARCHIVED THREAD] - PC vs console gaming (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 9/5/2014 6:05:36 PM EDT
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So I've always had a decent computer, and now it comes to the time when I need to upgrade the video card/power supply to play the current games (or even Skyrim) on any setting higher than Low-Med graphics. Definitely can't play anything on high or ultra. Even LOTRO I have to cut all the graphics way down.
Question is for you gamers, do you enjoy your PC gaming or console gaming better? I've never had a console, but am thinking about a PS4. Destiny looks fun, but won't be ported to PC immediately. Also, it seems that consoles don't have to be upgraded as often as PCs, and overall they are cheaper when you do upgrade. The PC has many other uses, but I have a laptop for any real work that needs to be done. Also, how hard is aiming in an FPS with a controller? Do folks get a mouse hookup somehow? A mouse seems to allow precise aiming, not sure about a controller. |
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It seems like there are benefits to each. Console gaming is great on the couch. Very casual. PC gaming can be casual but youre not parked on a couch. That said, PC gaming has plenty of its own benefits.
Im in to shooters and sandbox games, and I like to communicate through teamspeak. If I want to park on the couch, its because Im tired and dont want to think so I hop on Netflix. Any reason for me to get a console (party games) ended with the N64 and Wii |
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Consoles may catch up, but they will also have to improve the human input interface. Keyboard/mouse > thumb joysticks. This is entirely opinion, and very game specific. There are various types of games for which having an analog stick under each thumb is arguably superior to mouse+kb. |
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This is entirely opinion, and very game specific. There are various types of games for which having an analog stick under each thumb is arguably superior to mouse+kb. Quoted:
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Consoles may catch up, but they will also have to improve the human input interface. Keyboard/mouse > thumb joysticks. This is entirely opinion, and very game specific. There are various types of games for which having an analog stick under each thumb is arguably superior to mouse+kb. Of course it is an opinion, the OP was asking for opinions... |
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You're likely to get as many answers in this thread as there are posts. Quoted:
You're likely to get as many answers in this thread as there are posts. ^ I own them all: PC, Xbox One, PS4, Wii U, so I can play any game I want - and play the best version of it. If I had to stick to only one, it'd probably be PC. ETA: Quoted:
I've never had a console, but am thinking about a PS4. Destiny looks fun, but won't be ported to PC immediately. Also, it seems that consoles don't have to be upgraded as often as PCs, and overall they are cheaper when you do upgrade. The PC has many other uses, but I have a laptop for any real work that needs to be done. Also, how hard is aiming in an FPS with a controller? Do folks get a mouse hookup somehow? A mouse seems to allow precise aiming, not sure about a controller. Both PS4 and Xbox One can play blu-rays. All current gen consoles can stream Netflix and Amazon Video. Consoles aren't "upgraded"; they are replaced with each new generation. Aiming is slower with a controller when compared to a keyboard/mouse - but it's the same for everyone. It just takes a little practice to get used to it. |
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console is for the lazy noob gamer that just wants to crash infront of the tv with his aim assist because the controls are so sluggish. pc is where the real hardcore gamers play. console is trash because by the time each new console comes out the hardware is already old tech and these consoles sit around for upwards of 7-8 years holding back new advancements in increasing game graphics and engines because the games have to conform to the old shitty game engines on consoles because of the lazy mass market money. PC MASTER RACE FOR LIFE and in before the 'on pc you have to upgrade every 3 months to be able to play new games derpsauce' ETA: theres some great original titles that are console only (either sony or microsoft) and its a damn shame. |
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I prefer PC. I like RTS and FPS games. KB and mouse is hands down far superior to a controller.
RPGs I can go either way on. PCs have better graphics, but consoles have the "lounge" factor going. I don't mind playing games on a console where the controller is not a limitation. |
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Thanks for the replies all.
I guess I can wait for Destiny to port over to PC, but I do miss the titles that are only for consoles. I'm going to take a look at the build threads around here, but might just add in a new power supply and graphics card to get my computer up to speed. |
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PC for me without question, though it's not all sunshine and bunnies. I still have a playstation for the exclusives I like, such as Uncharted.
Pros: Better visuals, higher framerates, faster load times, etc etc. Steam as a service, and Steam sales Open market competition between Origin, Steam, Amazon, etc. Lots of great PC exclusive games Game MODS! Keyboard and mouse is better (opinion) for most games except racing games and certain other cases. Counterstrike with a controller is a joke. PCs can be used for other things than gaming Cons: More expensive (generally) Random bullshit will occasionally occur, like your soundcard randomly deciding it doesn't want to play nice with your motherboard anymore. Can result in a lot of tinkering and troubleshooting which some people don't like. Shitty console ports, or games that never get ported at all, a la Red Dead Redemption 600 different services that run games - Steam, Origin, Uplay, etc. |
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It seems like there are benefits to each. Console gaming is great on the couch. Very casual. PC gaming can be casual but youre not parked on a couch. You can easily set up your computer as a couch machine. Computer + HDMI cable + wireless kb/m and you are set. It's not my prefered method of PC gaming, but it's certainly possible. I have a separate home theater PC that I mostly use for movies and whatnot but also occasionally use for light gaming when I'm feeling lazy and don't want to go sit at my big rig. That said, it's still not quite as simple as a console. |
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This KB+Mouse stuff comes up every time and it is a ridiculous argument.
KB+Mouse may be easier to use with certain types of games - but it's irrelevant. It's not like if you're playing on a console you'll be at a disadvantage - everyone is using the same controls when console gaming. Lots of reasons to argue PC is superior to console. But it's not because of KB+Mouse. |
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I enjoy console gaming more so than I ever did PC gaming. And I was fairly hardcore about it up until around BF2. Quoted:
I enjoy console gaming more so than I ever did PC gaming. And I was fairly hardcore about it up until around BF2. /antonio banderas gif Quoted:
This KB+Mouse stuff comes up every time and it is a ridiculous argument. KB+Mouse may be easier to use with certain types of games - but it's irrelevant. It's not like if you're playing on a console you'll be at a disadvantage - everyone is using the same controls when console gaming. Lots of reasons to argue PC is superior to console. But it's not because of KB+Mouse. Yeah, everyone is using the same shitty controls. M/KB means that entire genres are PC exclusive; MMO, all strategy, and any true FPS, ie. competitive and without crutches like auto-aim which are necessary to make FPS playable with analogue sticks. There's a reason all major competitive games (apart from FIFA) are on PC. Lack of M/KB also leads to terrible game design, like sprawling sub-menus and unresponsive/unintuitive controls. |
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So I've always had a decent computer... Even LOTRO I have to cut all the graphics way down. LOTRO is almost 8 years old. If you are trying to game on an off the shelf BestBuy "multimedia" box, there is your problem & sticking a $500 video card inside that will be bottlenecked by the CPU regardless won't help. If you want to list your system specs, maybe people could offer a decent upgrade path. If this seems too hard for you, welcome to the world of console gaming & enjoy the derp. |
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I'll make the argument that with a good PC you can usually "have both" in one box.
I have my gaming PC hooked up to my living room HDTV via a long HDMI cable. Then I have an Xbox 360 controller hooked up to my PC. Nearly every PC game that is a console port contains full Xbox 360 controller support, including vibration. This means on the games that support it I can have the ultimate graphical performance of the PC version of the game with the sit-on-the-couch-and-play-on-the-big-TV freedom of a console. For instance, right now I'm playing Witcher 2 in my living room with a controller and the game is not only beautiful but I get to enjoy it sitting on my couch relaxing rather than hunched over my desk upstairs looking at a monitor. And thanks to Steam Big Picture mode you can completely control Steam with the controller without ever needing to walk back upstairs to the computer until you are ready to turn it off. This setup also has the benefit of being able to stream anything from the internet to my living room TV as well as full iTunes movie and TV show streaming along with Netflix and any other video I can play on my computer. I look at it this way: modern consoles are trying their hardest to be PC's... just with locked down OSes and no KB&M. They cost $400 and up and their games cost $60. PC games are almost always cheaper, and when it comes to Steam sales you can buy $50 games for $10 sometimes. All the money saved buying PC games is money put towards the actual PC hardware... so in the end from a pure dollar and function standpoint I bet the actual cost is a wash, except with a good gaming PC you have tons of extra functionality and options. The only leg up consoles have is the "guaranteed game experience" in that all you have to do is put in a disk and play the game... the game you get is the same as everyone else. |
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You can easily set up your computer as a couch machine. Computer + HDMI cable + wireless kb/m and you are set. It's not my prefered method of PC gaming, but it's certainly possible. I have a separate home theater PC that I mostly use for movies and whatnot but also occasionally use for light gaming when I'm feeling lazy and don't want to go sit at my big rig. That said, it's still not quite as simple as a console. Quoted:
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It seems like there are benefits to each. Console gaming is great on the couch. Very casual. PC gaming can be casual but youre not parked on a couch. You can easily set up your computer as a couch machine. Computer + HDMI cable + wireless kb/m and you are set. It's not my prefered method of PC gaming, but it's certainly possible. I have a separate home theater PC that I mostly use for movies and whatnot but also occasionally use for light gaming when I'm feeling lazy and don't want to go sit at my big rig. That said, it's still not quite as simple as a console. I did that with my first HDMI video card but its hardly a solution. You need a keyboard to navigate windows (vs the USB XBox controller) to get your games started then you can (usually) fuck around with the controller. It works but but consoles definitely get this one thing in their 'pro' category! |
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LOTRO is almost 8 years old. If you are trying to game on an off the shelf BestBuy "multimedia" box, there is your problem & sticking a $500 video card inside that will be bottlenecked by the CPU regardless won't help. If you want to list your system specs, maybe people could offer a decent upgrade path. If this seems too hard for you, welcome to the world of console gaming & enjoy the derp. Quoted:
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So I've always had a decent computer... Even LOTRO I have to cut all the graphics way down. LOTRO is almost 8 years old. If you are trying to game on an off the shelf BestBuy "multimedia" box, there is your problem & sticking a $500 video card inside that will be bottlenecked by the CPU regardless won't help. If you want to list your system specs, maybe people could offer a decent upgrade path. If this seems too hard for you, welcome to the world of console gaming & enjoy the derp. Definitely not too hard. I did IT in a previous life and have built and modified plenty of PCs and servers. However, I'm not up to speed on gaming consoles, hence my question. I can upgrade my existing PC box, it has a core I7 3.4 quad core and 8 gig of RAM, but the bottle neck for me has been the graphics card. |
| I did PC growing up. Then went to a PS2 then 360. been on the 360 since new (i must be lucky cause ive never had a RROD). I can see both sides of this argument but after being on xbox for so long, I already told myself that I will continue to play BF4 (really only game i play now besides revisiting Fallout 3) until BF5 comes out. When it does, I will build a PC again. |
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Yeah, everyone is using the same shitty controls. M/KB means that entire genres are PC exclusive; MMO, all strategy, and any true FPS, ie. competitive and without crutches like auto-aim which are necessary to make FPS playable with analogue sticks. There's a reason all major competitive games (apart from FIFA) are on PC. Lack of M/KB also leads to terrible game design, like sprawling sub-menus and unresponsive/unintuitive controls. Quoted:
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This KB+Mouse stuff comes up every time and it is a ridiculous argument. KB+Mouse may be easier to use with certain types of games - but it's irrelevant. It's not like if you're playing on a console you'll be at a disadvantage - everyone is using the same controls when console gaming. Lots of reasons to argue PC is superior to console. But it's not because of KB+Mouse. Yeah, everyone is using the same shitty controls. M/KB means that entire genres are PC exclusive; MMO, all strategy, and any true FPS, ie. competitive and without crutches like auto-aim which are necessary to make FPS playable with analogue sticks. There's a reason all major competitive games (apart from FIFA) are on PC. Lack of M/KB also leads to terrible game design, like sprawling sub-menus and unresponsive/unintuitive controls. I'd have to agree with this. Auto-aim is endemic in the console world because sticks are simply not as precise or as fast as a mouse. Now whether that's a good thing or not is up to personal preference. But it DOES lead to slightly different and faster gameplay compared to the same game on consoles. Now, some genres, like fighting games and driving games are better with a controller, IMO. But the great thing is that if you want or need a controller on the PC for certain game types, you can have one no problem. Plus, there many games that are nigh unplayable with a controller because there simply aren't enough buttons or it's not precise enough. RTS games such as Starcraft and the Total War franchise need a keyboard and mouse with all the buttons and precise clicking they require. Turn-based strategy generally does too. MMOs, while not a genre that I find remotely interesting, are another set of games that need a keyboard. MOBAs are in the same camp for now, though everyone assumes that someone will eventually make a gimped version for consoles. You can disagree about whether a kb/m is more comfortable, more intuitive, faster or just generally "better" than a controller. That's ultimately a matter of personal preference and taste based on people's experience and playing style. But the fact that entire genres of games are only playable with a keyboard and thus locked out of consoles factually makes the kb/m a definite advantage for a PC over consoles. Maybe it doesn't matter for you personally if you don't like those genres yourself, but it is an advantage objectively speaking. |
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I did that with my first HDMI video card but its hardly a solution. You need a keyboard to navigate windows (vs the USB XBox controller) to get your games started then you can (usually) fuck around with the controller. It works but but consoles definitely get this one thing in their 'pro' category! Quoted:
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It seems like there are benefits to each. Console gaming is great on the couch. Very casual. PC gaming can be casual but youre not parked on a couch. You can easily set up your computer as a couch machine. Computer + HDMI cable + wireless kb/m and you are set. It's not my prefered method of PC gaming, but it's certainly possible. I have a separate home theater PC that I mostly use for movies and whatnot but also occasionally use for light gaming when I'm feeling lazy and don't want to go sit at my big rig. That said, it's still not quite as simple as a console. I did that with my first HDMI video card but its hardly a solution. You need a keyboard to navigate windows (vs the USB XBox controller) to get your games started then you can (usually) fuck around with the controller. It works but but consoles definitely get this one thing in their 'pro' category! I just stick with a mouse and keyboard all the way through. I never use a controller unless I'm playing a driving or fighting game. But I do agree that for a couch setup consoles are generally simpler and more intuitive and I would give them the nod in this category. |
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You can disagree about whether a kb/m is more comfortable, more intuitive, faster or just generally "better" than a controller. That's ultimately a matter of personal preference and taste based on people's experience and playing style. But the fact that entire genres of games are only playable with a keyboard and thus locked out of consoles factually makes the kb/m a definite advantage for a PC over consoles. Maybe it doesn't matter for you personally if you don't like those genres yourself, but it is an advantage objectively speaking. I acknowledged there are types of games for which a KB and a Mouse were 'better' in my quoted post. I think you're neglecting to consider entire genres which really need something different than mouse and KB. Racing games do much better with analog sticks than a mouse and kb. Sneak type games (Splintercell) take serious advantage of the vector function of an analog stick. Platformers. etc. Basically, any game for which speed + direction is useful in a single control. But all that is beside the point... The point is that claiming PC is superior over all just because it has a mouse and KB is silly. Especially when it's a point that regularly gets discarded like the post at the top of this page. There are plenty of good points to PC gaming without delving into siliness. Freeware. Shareware. Mods. Just off the top of my head. ETA: And these days it's not particularly valid, any more. PS4 will connect to a bluetooth KB right out of the box. X1 had KB support added in it's February update. |
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I acknowledged there are types of games for which a KB and a Mouse were 'better' in my quoted post. I think you're neglecting to consider entire genres which really need something different than mouse and KB. Racing games do much better with analog sticks than a mouse and kb. Sneak type games (Splintercell) take serious advantage of the vector function of an analog stick. Platformers. etc. Basically, any game for which speed + direction is useful in a single control. But all that is beside the point... The point is that claiming PC is superior over all just because it has a mouse and KB is silly. Especially when it's a point that regularly gets discarded like the post at the top of this page. There are plenty of good points to PC gaming without delving into siliness. Quoted:
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You can disagree about whether a kb/m is more comfortable, more intuitive, faster or just generally "better" than a controller. That's ultimately a matter of personal preference and taste based on people's experience and playing style. But the fact that entire genres of games are only playable with a keyboard and thus locked out of consoles factually makes the kb/m a definite advantage for a PC over consoles. Maybe it doesn't matter for you personally if you don't like those genres yourself, but it is an advantage objectively speaking. I acknowledged there are types of games for which a KB and a Mouse were 'better' in my quoted post. I think you're neglecting to consider entire genres which really need something different than mouse and KB. Racing games do much better with analog sticks than a mouse and kb. Sneak type games (Splintercell) take serious advantage of the vector function of an analog stick. Platformers. etc. Basically, any game for which speed + direction is useful in a single control. But all that is beside the point... The point is that claiming PC is superior over all just because it has a mouse and KB is silly. Especially when it's a point that regularly gets discarded like the post at the top of this page. There are plenty of good points to PC gaming without delving into siliness. But here's the thing. Yes, there are genres that are better with a controller, as I said above. I absolutely agree with you. Racing games, fighting games, flight games, etc. But on a PC, if I want to play those games that are better with a controller, I can. I just hook a controller up to my PC. Done. But if I want to play games that require a keyboard on a console? Not happening. I can't hook a keyboard up to my console (I don't count the XIM or other adapters since they are too niche). So with PCs I have the best of both worlds - I can play Need For Speed with a controller one minute, then go play DOTA with my mouse and keyboard the next. That's why I'd say it's a pro for PC's. Just having the option to use multiple types of inputs is an advantage. Again, whether it counts for each individual is a matter of personal preference based on the types of games you play. But I'm not seeing how you can say that having the option to do either kb/m OR controller in a single platform isn't an objective advantage on the whole. More options are always better. And believe me, I'm not a blind "PC master race" kind of guy. I know full well that consoles have certain advantages over PCs, and I'm also fully aware that some (a lot of) people prefer the feel of a controller to a kb/m. And that's absolutely fine and I'm not saying that one scheme is always better than the other. What I am saying is that PCs have an advantage because they can use either, or both at the same time, while consoles are locked to just controllers. |
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And believe me, I'm not a blind "PC master race" kind of guy. I know full well that consoles have certain advantages over PCs, and I'm also fully aware that some (a lot of) people prefer the feel of a controller to a kb/m. And that's absolutely fine and I'm not saying that one scheme is always better than the other. What I am saying is that PCs have an advantage because they can use either, or both at the same time, while consoles are locked to just controllers. I understand what you're saying. But realize that it's only important to someone IF they prefer those types of games and IF they refuse to use a controller. I grew up with a PC. I personally don't care to play a top down RTS game with a controller. But lots of folks played and enjoyed the HALO RTS that was released. I did myself, though it took some getting used to. When you're playing on a console you know the person on the other end is using the same equipment (not just controller but all equipment) to do the same things. Frankly, I think that's a plus. |
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I understand what you're saying. But realize that it's only important to someone IF they prefer those types of games and IF they refuse to use a controller. I grew up with a PC. I personally don't care to play a top down RTS game with a controller. But lots of folks played and enjoyed the HALO RTS that was released. I did myself, though it took some getting used to. When you're playing on a console you know the person on the other end is using the same equipment (not just controller but all equipment) to do the same things. Frankly, I think that's a plus. Quoted:
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And believe me, I'm not a blind "PC master race" kind of guy. I know full well that consoles have certain advantages over PCs, and I'm also fully aware that some (a lot of) people prefer the feel of a controller to a kb/m. And that's absolutely fine and I'm not saying that one scheme is always better than the other. What I am saying is that PCs have an advantage because they can use either, or both at the same time, while consoles are locked to just controllers. I understand what you're saying. But realize that it's only important to someone IF they prefer those types of games and IF they refuse to use a controller. I grew up with a PC. I personally don't care to play a top down RTS game with a controller. But lots of folks played and enjoyed the HALO RTS that was released. I did myself, though it took some getting used to. When you're playing on a console you know the person on the other end is using the same equipment (not just controller but all equipment) to do the same things. Frankly, I think that's a plus. That's fair. Still, given the choice between more input options and fewer options, I'll take the "get both" path every time, even if I don't see myself using it for the time being - I don't play MOBAs and don't plan to start, but it's nice to know that if I ever did want to try out League or DOTA, I could. But whether it's an advantage or not, I do agree with you overall that it's not a major factor in choosing PCs or consoles. There are bigger difference makers out there, like what and how you play, or where your friends are, or how much "visuals" matter to you. Though one feel of a nice mechanical keyboard will forever turn you into a PC guy.
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I just switched over to PC after playing console for the last 14 years. IMO they just dont make console games like they used to. I kept finding myself constantly bored with the "monthly" releases that would come out and cost an arm and a leg then I would have to protect my discs ever so carefully. Then some games I would play like GTA where I would just hit this brick wall where I couldn't aim fast enough and I always thought if this was on PC I would have head shot that guy already, etc. That and watching all the cool pc mods I couldn't access on console finally drove me over the edge. I built a gaming PC from scratch this year and I will never go back to console, the thrill of assembling the pc by hand alone was worth it, but there are just so many other reasons to be on the PC. For one if you lag its your fault when I lag on the xbox or ps its because their servers suck, shit like that doesnt happen on the PC and if it does you can personally just go fix it, I love that. The communication aspect is just not their yet on the xbox either, teamspeak on the PC is amazing and just so much easier to use. You can have an international call with all your friends for free all day long and its compatible with any video game and 10 times easier to use then console communications. The price of games alone warrants the extra money spent on a PC, personally I dont pay more then 10 dollars for a PC game and most of the time I pay less then 5. Trying doing that on a console. IMO as far as quality of games go too I'm sick and tired of the auto-assisted, barely original, barely playable console games. All the original truly fun games are on PC and CAN NOT be played on console, for example GunZ 2, Orcs Must Die 2, Path of Exile. All amazing games that consoles don't have and oh yeah two of those are free. I'll never buy another console again. When my xbox burns out ill buy a new blu ray player to stream netflix with. They are about 60 bucks for the best one money can buy and they never malfunction. |
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Counter-Strike Source turned me off to PC gaming forever (WoW notwithstanding). People can hack consoles too but it seems more prevalent and easier to do on PC. If you have to cheat at a videogame at the expense of others... VAC does a pretty good job. There are one-off cheaters but there's not that common. CS:S is awesome, was playing this morning. |
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I stopped playing PC games due to several limiting factors:
1) Cost. As a poor family guy I could either bust out the cash for a console or try to upgrade my crappy ass PC. Buying a new PC was out. 2) Console game selection is greater, again I am speaking from a family man here with a limited budget. I can buy cheap console games at the pawn shop for 10 bucks all day. I can preorder games on layaway from the game store. 3)Trying to keep my PC virus free, and having to micromanage all the background crap to inhance my crappy PC preformance was a PITA. 4) Gaming hardware such as programmable mouse/keyboard were costly and while not needed to play to play well these helped greatly. 5) Simplicity of use and controls. Just about any 5 year old can master a console. If it craps out, well the console is broken. When the PC crashes people get pissed at the ADMIN (me) because it aint working. I think PC games have better qualities such as better games, graphics, ect. but dollar wise it is a pricey option. Plus my son has a large netowrk of friends that play consoles vs PC so that makes it a better option for him. |
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Quoted: This is entirely opinion, and very game specific. There are various types of games for which having an analog stick under each thumb is arguably superior to mouse+kb. Quoted: Quoted: Consoles may catch up, but they will also have to improve the human input interface. Keyboard/mouse > thumb joysticks. This is entirely opinion, and very game specific. There are various types of games for which having an analog stick under each thumb is arguably superior to mouse+kb. And you can play those games on a computer with a gamepad. Further, whatever gamepad you want.
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| Sometimes I get tired of how grindy games can be when you start a new campaign. Sometimes I don't feel like dealing with some of the mechanics in a game like scavenging for ammo or loot. Sometimes I just want to play one aspect of a game and not deal with micromanaging the rest of it. When I get in that mood I just load up cheatengine and make myself invincible, or get more money, or freeze my ammo count at maximum. Rampaging around a FPS type game with permanently full health and ammo is good for a chuckle every now and then. Can't do that with a console. |
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Sometimes I get tired of how grindy games can be when you start a new campaign. Sometimes I don't feel like dealing with some of the mechanics in a game like scavenging for ammo or loot. Sometimes I just want to play one aspect of a game and not deal with micromanaging the rest of it. When I get in that mood I just load up cheatengine and make myself invincible, or get more money, or freeze my ammo count at maximum. Rampaging around a FPS type game with permanently full health and ammo is good for a chuckle every now and then. Can't do that with a console. Ehh... built in cheat codes have been on consoles forever. But with new games being very 'online' and comparative with single player stats sometimes affecting MP stats / abilities, cheats aren't really kosher any more. The inherent difficulty in cheating is a benefit for consoles IMO. |
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I like both to be honest. For games like COD or BF I still prefer to play them on my console. However, I also like Counter Strike. I wouldn't want to play that game on console. That is really the only game I like playing on PC right now. Since I already have a console putting together a fancy PC isn't really practical for me right now.
I just got finished upgrading and old PC I had for a couple hundred bucks to play CS following the advice of the PC gurus here. I am really bad moving and shooting with a mouse and keyboard. Just about every game there is a vote to kick me.. The steep learning curve has been part of the fun for me though. It wouldn't be the same game if I used a controller in CS.
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I used to PC game, still play CS:S and 1.6 here and there. I'll build a PC for Star citizen. All good points about controls, mods, upgrades, etc I like my console as it's usually a one stop entertainment solution hooked up to my tv (I'm not running cables for a pc, it's not easier, stop pretending like it is). I can hop on CoD or whatever people at work play, and play a couple games with my friends. Ease of use is unbeatable. I can play "part games" with my girlfriend or more casual gaming friends. That said, the crowd is more mature on PC, better games is debatable depending what you like, but overall it's a more pure experience. I see console gaming more as a time burner while PC gaming is a hobby if that makes sense. |
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Quoted: I stopped playing PC games due to several limiting factors: 1) Cost. As a poor family guy I could either bust out the cash for a console or try to upgrade my crappy ass PC. Buying a new PC was out. 2) Console game selection is greater, again I am speaking from a family man here with a limited budget. I can buy cheap console games at the pawn shop for 10 bucks all day. I can preorder games on layaway from the game store. 3)Trying to keep my PC virus free, and having to micromanage all the background crap to inhance my crappy PC preformance was a PITA. 4) Gaming hardware such as programmable mouse/keyboard were costly and while not needed to play to play well these helped greatly. 5) Simplicity of use and controls. Just about any 5 year old can master a console. If it craps out, well the console is broken. When the PC crashes people get pissed at the ADMIN (me) because it aint working. I think PC games have better qualities such as better games, graphics, ect. but dollar wise it is a pricey option. Plus my son has a large netowrk of friends that play consoles vs PC so that makes it a better option for him. Your doing something wrong, as stated above most PC games these days range from free to 10 dollars. My two favorite PC games were free. |
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Your doing something wrong, as stated above most PC games these days range from free to 10 dollars. My two favorite PC games were free. Quoted:
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I stopped playing PC games due to several limiting factors: 1) Cost. As a poor family guy I could either bust out the cash for a console or try to upgrade my crappy ass PC. Buying a new PC was out. 2) Console game selection is greater, again I am speaking from a family man here with a limited budget. I can buy cheap console games at the pawn shop for 10 bucks all day. I can preorder games on layaway from the game store. 3)Trying to keep my PC virus free, and having to micromanage all the background crap to inhance my crappy PC preformance was a PITA. 4) Gaming hardware such as programmable mouse/keyboard were costly and while not needed to play to play well these helped greatly. 5) Simplicity of use and controls. Just about any 5 year old can master a console. If it craps out, well the console is broken. When the PC crashes people get pissed at the ADMIN (me) because it aint working. I think PC games have better qualities such as better games, graphics, ect. but dollar wise it is a pricey option. Plus my son has a large netowrk of friends that play consoles vs PC so that makes it a better option for him. Your doing something wrong, as stated above most PC games these days range from free to 10 dollars. My two favorite PC games were free. I really depends on what you are playing. If you want to buy the new games at launch, then you'll be paying about the same as with a console, though there are a few AAA games out there these days where the PC version is only $50 as opposed to the $60 console version. On the other hand, if you are just looking for something cool to play that might be a year old, it's likely that it will be a good deal cheaper on PC than console, even used. Which reminds me of one of the biggest pluses to PC gaming IMO, which is the back catalog. Since there are no hard "generations" of PCs, I can play all my games on my new PC, no matter how old they are. I can pull out Call of Duty 1 right now and install it on my newish PC, right alongside the latest next-gen only title. Heck, I could set up a virtual DOS box and run early '90s titles if I wanted to. Consoles don't have that option. You can only play games from that current generation, unless you keep your old hardware around ( We are slowly starting to see a change in this area as consoles begin to roll out streaming services like PSNow, but even that will never be as good of a solution as you will find on the PC - these console services require a good internet connection, you can only play the games that they decide to put on the service, and even if they eventually get both of those issues fixed the underlying downside is that you still have to the pay a second time for the privilege of playing these old games that you already bought once years ago, and may even still have copies of in your possession. |


The steep learning curve has been part of the fun for me though. It wouldn't be the same game if I used a controller in CS.