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2/20/2012 1:27:03 PM EDT
Anyone ever use it? Just changed the oil on my '01 F350 PSD pick'em up truck. Notices that the oil pan is really rusted badly in a couple of places. Thinking of trying this to stop it from eventually rusting through. If that happens, the engine has to be pulled to replace it.

ETA, they have a starter kit that will cover six square feet for $26 on e-bay (w/free shipping)
2/20/2012 2:11:44 PM EDT
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I have used it. really good stuff. Just follow the instructions exactly.
2/20/2012 2:15:10 PM EDT
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I have used it. really good stuff. Just follow the instructions exactly.


+1

 



My dad uses it. It is excellent.




DO NOT LET IT GET ON YOUR SKIN, IT WON'T COME OFF FOR WEEKS!
2/20/2012 2:15:18 PM EDT
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Been using it for years. The key is to properly prepare the surface before using.
2/20/2012 2:53:31 PM EDT
[#4]
Thanx for the replies. I ordered the kit from e-bay. Contains everything needed (even rubber gloves!)
2/20/2012 2:55:12 PM EDT
[#5]
Its funny how I think of things and then someone posts about it.



Ive been thinking of getting some of this stuff.

Heard good things about it.
2/20/2012 2:58:12 PM EDT
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Oil pan?  You must completely remove ALL oil, any specks of oil will create fisheyes.  Forget engine degreasers in a can, they won't work.  Steam cleaning with TSP, then acetone.  



It brushes on great, leveling out nicely and covers well.  The secret is it wets out the rust, encapsulating it.  It needs humidity to cure, a dewpoint in the 55-60 F range is optimum.  Using it in very humid conditions leads to poor leveling.  If there is any water in the rust, it will bubble.


 
2/20/2012 3:06:51 PM EDT
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Oil pan?  You must completely remove ALL oil, any specks of oil will create fisheyes.  Forget engine degreasers in a can, they won't work.  Steam cleaning with TSP, then acetone.  

It brushes on great, leveling out nicely and covers well.  The secret is it wets out the rust, encapsulating it.  It needs humidity to cure, a dewpoint in the 55-60 F range is optimum.  Using it in very humid conditions leads to poor leveling.  If there is any water in the rust, it will bubble.
 


Yeah, I figured I'd prep it with a good cleaning first before I even use their prep solutions. Do you suggets then that I wait until a good warm spring day to do this?
2/20/2012 3:18:37 PM EDT
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Its funny how I think of things and then someone posts about it.



Ive been thinking of getting some of this stuff.

Heard good things about it.
Were you just thinking about Katie Hannahway's perky little boobs, too?





 
2/20/2012 3:20:19 PM EDT
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I'd also like to note that it will eventually rust through.  If applied well it can delay it years...but it is still going.
2/20/2012 3:20:38 PM EDT
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Quoted:





Quoted:

Its funny how I think of things and then someone posts about it.



Ive been thinking of getting some of this stuff.

Heard good things about it.
Were you just thinking about Katie Hannahway's perky little boobs, too?



 
Well, I was thinking of
Kaley Cuoco's perky boobs, does that count?





 
2/20/2012 3:23:24 PM EDT
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How much is a new oil pan?
2/20/2012 3:24:30 PM EDT
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How much is a new oil pan?


$1200 dollars when you throw in pulling the engine.
2/20/2012 3:25:15 PM EDT
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Be very careful when using it. Over a course of 2 weeks I was putting POR on my frame. I had on long sleeve shirt, gloves, and still managed to get it all over my arms, hands and even hair. Nothing will get if off and I mean NOTHING.
2/20/2012 3:25:46 PM EDT
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How much is a new oil pan?


$1200 dollars when you throw in pulling the engine.


Aww, you don't have to pull the engine. Just jack it up.

2/20/2012 3:32:02 PM EDT
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Used it in an old Porsche I was fixing up.  Had the gas tank professionally cleaned out, then I cleaned the outside, stripped it and coated with POR15.  Then the front pan area that had some surface rust got a thorough cleaning and coating with POR15.  My plan was going to be to patch some areas in the passenger compartment pan and then coat with POR15, then new carpet.  The undercarriage was also going to get POR15 followed by undercoating.

Sadly I lost interest in the car and it sat for a couple years before I sold it.  It was some Danish guy that came and bought it with the intention of shipping it back over to Europe.
2/20/2012 7:25:30 PM EDT
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Oil pan?  You must completely remove ALL oil, any specks of oil will create fisheyes.  Forget engine degreasers in a can, they won't work.  Steam cleaning with TSP, then acetone.  



It brushes on great, leveling out nicely and covers well.  The secret is it wets out the rust, encapsulating it.  It needs humidity to cure, a dewpoint in the 55-60 F range is optimum.  Using it in very humid conditions leads to poor leveling.  If there is any water in the rust, it will bubble.

 




Yeah, I figured I'd prep it with a good cleaning first before I even use their prep solutions. Do you suggets then that I wait until a good warm spring day to do this?


Yes. In cold weather, it takes hours to days to get it to cure.  There is a bit of solvent odor, if you have asthma, be damn careful as the TDI/MDI (don't remember which one) (diisocynates) can trigger reactions.  Outside and with brush, it isn't a problem.  Indoors with spraying?  Forget it.  It isn't nearly as bad as two-component polyurethanes (DuPont Imron) but you should take note of possible reactions.



Last summer during the Texas fires, I was using some in an air conditioned shop.  The dew point was below freezing (weird weather) and the air conditioner drew even more out.  The stuff  wouldn't cure.  We came back from lunch and using an air nozzle, sprayed 3 pints of water onto the walls, away from the items painted to increase the humidity.  It cured in about 45 minutes once the dew point got above 60 F.



Never spray painted surfaces with water!  They WILL bubble.  A humidifier will help if really dry.
 
2/20/2012 7:28:28 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Its funny how I think of things and then someone posts about it.



Ive been thinking of getting some of this stuff.

Heard good things about it.
Were you just thinking about Katie Hannahway's perky little boobs, too?



 
Well, I was thinking of Kaley Cuoco's perky boobs, does that count?



 
They'll do.







 
2/20/2012 7:37:12 PM EDT
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I por-15'd my toes together.  

I was wearing sandals when I opened a can, some glooped out onto my foot.  I decided to wait until later to clean it up.  I had to take a pocket knife and basically cut my toes apart.  
I also got some on my skin and hair.  It didnt wear off until weeks later.  

As for the oil pan, I did my trucks.  I pulled the pan, degreased it several times.  Then sand blasted it.  
I did coat the underside of my 67 mustang, as well as the interior and trunk.  I had one patch fail and it let moisture get trapped between the floor pan and Por.  The rest is rock solid.
FWIW, the eastman product is supposed to be easier to apply with the same results.
2/21/2012 2:48:11 PM EDT
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It doesn't come off skin, and it fades in sunlight.  It also doesn't resist aircraft hydraulic fluid––but most paints dont.