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7/13/2008 6:39:44 AM EDT
My brother has both a PS3 and a separate dedicated Blue Ray player.  He claims the picture quality of blue ray movies is superior when played on the dedicated player than on the PS3.  The PS3 blue ray picture on my 1080p 60in TV is very good, but doesn't snap like I thought it would....looks just a little better than my upverting DVD player.

Any of ya'll know if there are any issues along these lines ?  Doesn't really make sense to me for there to be a picture quality difference between the two but I'm not an AV expert either.

Thanks for any help.

Fred
7/13/2008 8:40:01 AM EDT
[#1]
depends on the standalone unit he has, but the PS3 is a VERY VERY capable Bluray player.. It should look fantastic..

Have you calibrated your display? If not that the first thing you should do, it will image the video quality drastically..
7/13/2008 9:14:07 AM EDT
[#2]
Are you using HDMI cables to hook both up?

The PS3 is every bit as good as any standalone player on the market, and better in most cased w/ the firmware updates.
7/13/2008 9:17:05 AM EDT
[#3]
The PS3 is as good or better than any stand alone BD player.

Has he done a Firmware update on the PS3?  My guess is no.
7/13/2008 3:34:33 PM EDT
[#4]
Thanks for the responses, fella's.  You've given me some good ideas.  I'll check it out.

Fred
7/16/2008 2:18:57 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
The PS3 blue ray picture on my 1080p 60in TV is very good, but doesn't snap like I thought it would....looks just a little better than my upverting DVD player.

Okay, I could maybe understand saying that if you were on a 30", maybe, but a 60"?

You seriously need to either:

A) Adjust your TV's settings and make sure all your connections are done right, because something is way off
B) Get glasses
7/16/2008 3:13:35 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
The PS3 is as good or better than any stand alone BD player.

Has he done a Firmware update on the PS3?  My guess is no.


Is the firmware update the same as the system update?  I know that I'll see a system update notice now and then when I first start up my PS3.  Also, the quality of the blueray is noticeably better than my upconverting dvd player.
7/16/2008 5:45:04 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The PS3 is as good or better than any stand alone BD player.

Has he done a Firmware update on the PS3?  My guess is no.


Is the firmware update the same as the system update?  I know that I'll see a system update notice now and then when I first start up my PS3.  Also, the quality of the blueray is noticeably better than my upconverting dvd player.


Yes, the PS3 is updated via the system update option.
7/16/2008 5:48:52 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
My brother has both a PS3 and a separate dedicated Blue Ray player.  He claims the picture quality of blue ray movies is superior when played on the dedicated player than on the PS3.  The PS3 blue ray picture on my 1080p 60in TV is very good, but doesn't snap like I thought it would....looks just a little better than my upverting DVD player.

Any of ya'll know if there are any issues along these lines ?  Doesn't really make sense to me for there to be a picture quality difference between the two but I'm not an AV expert either.

Thanks for any help.

Fred


Which dedicated player does he have?  Perhaps the $1000 ones might have a better video quality, but everything I have read on the AVS forum says that the PS3 is the best of the mid-low priced blu-ray players.

7/16/2008 5:58:00 AM EDT
[#9]

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Which dedicated player does he have?  Perhaps the $1000 ones might have a better video quality, but everything I have read on the AVS forum says that the PS3 is the best of the mid-low priced blu-ray players.



That may be "percieved quality" which is hard to measure.  Unless they are outputting at 1081p or higher, or the PS3/monitor isn't set up right, then there's no difference.
7/16/2008 6:00:31 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Are you using HDMI cables to hook both up?

The PS3 is every bit as good as any standalone player on the market, and better in most cased w/ the firmware updates.
question. Does the PS3 need HDMI cables to hook up to a newer type TV?
7/16/2008 6:06:07 AM EDT
[#11]
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how does the PS3 fair with component video on a 1080i ?

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7/16/2008 7:02:07 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Are you using HDMI cables to hook both up?

The PS3 is every bit as good as any standalone player on the market, and better in most cased w/ the firmware updates.
question. Does the PS3 need HDMI cables to hook up to a newer type TV?


No you can use component or dvi. HDMI is the best way to go though.
7/16/2008 8:33:38 AM EDT
[#13]
My I suggest you posting which movies you watched?

Not all Blu-ray movies are "stunning".  Some are quite bad.  Other were artistically made to look a certain way.  So let us know.  I've watched a bunch of movies to know which are on the crap end of the picture quality end.
7/16/2008 11:28:31 AM EDT
[#14]

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My I suggest you posting which movies you watched?

Not all Blu-ray movies are "stunning".  Some are quite bad.  Other were artistically made to look a certain way.  So let us know.  I've watched a bunch of movies to know which are on the crap end of the picture quality end.

Yup, this may well be the issue. If you're watching an 80s movie that's been converted to Blu-ray, yeah, it's probably not gonna look a whole lot better than an upconverted DVD.

The difference in new movies though, is night and day. Case and point Kingdom of Heaven, which you always see displayed at kiosks to show the dif between Blu-ray and DVD... there is a SIGNIFICANT difference you have to be blind to not see.
7/26/2008 1:03:09 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:


The difference in new movies though, is night and day. Case and point Kingdom of Heaven, which you always see displayed at kiosks to show the dif between Blu-ray and DVD... there is a SIGNIFICANT difference you have to be blind to not see.


I've seen that before. I'm not arguing that Blu-ray doesn't look a lot nicer than DVD, but in that side-by-side comparison the "DVD" side is seriously garbled and is nowhere near reflective of how the movie really looks on DVD.
7/26/2008 1:10:38 PM EDT
[#16]
There is also a "deep color" or similar setting on the PS3 that you may need to flip.  Not sure if it affects movies, but it makes a big difference with games.
7/26/2008 1:13:25 PM EDT
[#17]
HDMI cables > component cables. The lastest versions of HDMI cables give awesome picture because of the amount of data it can transfer. Buy them from ebay though, you can get cables for 5 bucks that are just as good as the 100 dollar ones at best buy.
7/26/2008 1:17:17 PM EDT
[#18]

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HDMI cables > component cables. The lastest versions of HDMI cables give awesome picture because of the amount of data it can transfer. Buy them from ebay though, you can get cables for 5 bucks that are just as good as the 100 dollar ones at best buy.


www.monoprice.com

ETA: Monster Cable is probably the biggest scam there is in consumer electronics.
7/27/2008 3:30:13 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
HDMI cables > component cables. The lastest versions of HDMI cables give awesome picture because of the amount of data it can transfer. Buy them from ebay though, you can get cables for 5 bucks that are just as good as the 100 dollar ones at best buy.


www.monoprice.com

ETA: Monster Cable is probably the biggest scam there is in consumer electronics.


Nope. Pear is the biggest scam going.

gizmodo.com/gadgets/more-bull/pear-cables-withdraws-from-james-randis-1m-challenge-313361.php
7/27/2008 6:54:50 PM EDT
[#20]
I've heard that the stand alone players are better purely for the fact that they can output at 120hz, where as most playstations except for the original 60 gigs, output at 60 hz. This has more to do with the refresh rates, than the resolution, but can be a noticable difference if your TV supports this refresh rate.
7/27/2008 10:23:08 PM EDT
[#21]
I didn't think there were any sources out yet that were sending 120hz signals.  
7/28/2008 7:25:50 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
I've heard that the stand alone players are better purely for the fact that they can output at 120hz, where as most playstations except for the original 60 gigs, output at 60 hz. This has more to do with the refresh rates, than the resolution, but can be a noticable difference if your TV supports this refresh rate.


There is no player or will there be a player that does 120.  The reason is that the source is done at 24.  Therefore a player will either do 24, 30, 60.  Now a Display on the other hand can do muliples handle 120.

Which if you notice that 24, 30 and 60 are all multiples of 120.
7/29/2008 7:54:46 PM EDT
[#23]
I am following the OP's setup.  

I just purchased the Samsung 50" 650 Touch of Red plasma Saturday. I also purchased a Samsung up scaling dedicated DVD player at the same time.

I am disappointed with the upscaling DVD player so I just ordered the PS3 80gig an Bluetooth remote from Amazon.

I hope I am not disappointed.

OP, what was your outcome?



8/1/2008 1:08:10 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
I am following the OP's setup.  

I just purchased the Samsung 50" 650 Touch of Red plasma Saturday. I also purchased a Samsung up scaling dedicated DVD player at the same time.

I am disappointed with the upscaling DVD player so I just ordered the PS3 80gig an Bluetooth remote from Amazon.

I hope I am not disappointed.

OP, what was your outcome?







You will not be disappointed. I hav ethe PS3 40gig, and I am still amazed at the picture when I watch a movie in BR DVD.
8/1/2008 8:43:19 AM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
I am following the OP's setup.  

I just purchased the Samsung 50" 650 Touch of Red plasma Saturday. I also purchased a Samsung up scaling dedicated DVD player at the same time.

I am disappointed with the upscaling DVD player so I just ordered the PS3 80gig an Bluetooth remote from Amazon.

I hope I am not disappointed.

OP, what was your outcome?





I think the suggestion regarding which particular movie I am watching has merit.  I've started paying attention and some movie's, especially the more recently released movies with special effects, do look better.  I also need to investigate the firmware update. BTW...I am using HDMI cables.

Again thanks to all.

Fred
8/1/2008 6:23:33 PM EDT
[#26]
PS3s are typically leading the pack due to their firmware updates. The PS3 was the first BD-Live capable player on the market.

Anyone who claims that a standalone player is better or more capable is misinformed.