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Link Posted: 8/6/2018 11:00:33 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/6/2018 11:54:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Guys,

Here is a list of what we are going to be doing in 2018 for these limited edition lowers. I need to reign things in so everyone's budget does not bleed too badly.

1. Gremlin - Done
2. SpaceForce-15 - Waiting on Variance and Production
3. DailyDeals-15 - Waiting on Variance and Production
4. MADDOG-15 - Waiting on Variance and Production
5. Wall-10 - Waiting on Variance and Production
6. Halloween - Need ideas.
7. Thanksgiving - Need ideas.
8. Christmas - Waiting on Variance and Production

First thing in January 2019 is when we will start producing the following at a pace of about 1 per month.

1. Arfcom lower
2. No Step on Snek
3. Possibility of Fallout, as long as no copy right issues.
4. ANYTHING ELSE COOL YOU GUYS CAN THINK OF!!!

Keep the ideas and artwork flowing! We will keep this going as long as you guys want it to!

Thank you!

Josiah
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mother of god!

Link Posted: 8/6/2018 12:18:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kbi:
mother of god!

https://media.giphy.com/media/T6vKzpyx3kgCs/giphy.gif
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Originally Posted By kbi:
Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Guys,

Here is a list of what we are going to be doing in 2018 for these limited edition lowers. I need to reign things in so everyone's budget does not bleed too badly.

1. Gremlin - Done
2. SpaceForce-15 - Waiting on Variance and Production
3. DailyDeals-15 - Waiting on Variance and Production
4. MADDOG-15 - Waiting on Variance and Production
5. Wall-10 - Waiting on Variance and Production
6. Halloween - Need ideas.
7. Thanksgiving - Need ideas.
8. Christmas - Waiting on Variance and Production

First thing in January 2019 is when we will start producing the following at a pace of about 1 per month.

1. Arfcom lower
2. No Step on Snek
3. Possibility of Fallout, as long as no copy right issues.
4. ANYTHING ELSE COOL YOU GUYS CAN THINK OF!!!

Keep the ideas and artwork flowing! We will keep this going as long as you guys want it to!

Thank you!

Josiah
mother of god!

https://media.giphy.com/media/T6vKzpyx3kgCs/giphy.gif
This!!
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 12:20:10 PM EDT
[#4]
Confirmed on Space Force - Now to await Mattis and Christmas, if not more! This is awesome Josiah!
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 12:25:20 PM EDT
[#5]
If the Fallout lower goes through, I think a Metal Gear Solid lower would be awesome.

You could use either the Diamond Dogs logo or the Foxhound logo. Selector could read safe :Solid Snake,  fire: Liquid Snake, and auto: Big Boss

Both of these logos would look great on a lower. They would probably have to be simplified though



Link Posted: 8/6/2018 12:27:18 PM EDT
[#6]
only question is how many Daily Deals lowers do I need....
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 12:30:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/6/2018 12:41:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 40xb:
I got a used 8 inch .45 acp upper off of the EE for the General Mattis lower.
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Pics?
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 12:45:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Love it, let's make it happen!

Josiah
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Originally Posted By Doodles:

I know I counted at least four of us want one. It's patriotic but humorous at the same time.

Roll Mark: NO STEP ON SNEK

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/485060/thRU3JWP84-629385.jpg

FREEDOM-15

SN: SNEK0087

SAFE = LIFE
SEMI = LIBERTY
AUTO= HAPPINESS (happy switch)

What do you think Josiah @PalmettoStateArmory ?
Love it, let's make it happen!

Josiah
I would love a run of these and other roll marks in an 80% configuration.
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 12:58:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/6/2018 1:09:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 40xb:
Originally Posted By beitodesstrafe:
Originally Posted By 40xb:
I got a used 8 inch .45 acp upper off of the EE for the General Mattis lower.
Pics?
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/175289/20180806_115447-631760.jpg
Good shit!

I'll build a PCC one day...
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 1:15:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/6/2018 1:24:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Guys,

Here is a list of what we are going to be doing in 2018 for these limited edition lowers. I need to reign things in so everyone's budget does not bleed too badly.

1. Gremlin - Done
2. SpaceForce-15 - Waiting on Variance and Production
3. DailyDeals-15 - Waiting on Variance and Production
4. MADDOG-15 - Waiting on Variance and Production
5. Wall-10 - Waiting on Variance and Production
6. Halloween - Need ideas.
7. Thanksgiving - Need ideas.
8. Christmas - Waiting on Variance and Production

First thing in January 2019 is when we will start producing the following at a pace of about 1 per month.

1. Arfcom lower
2. No Step on Snek
3. Possibility of Fallout, as long as no copy right issues.
4. ANYTHING ELSE COOL YOU GUYS CAN THINK OF!!!

Keep the ideas and artwork flowing! We will keep this going as long as you guys want it to!

Thank you!

Josiah
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Philosophical question: Can there be too much winning?
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 1:34:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:

4. ANYTHING ELSE COOL YOU GUYS CAN THINK OF!!!

Keep the ideas and artwork flowing! We will keep this going as long as you guys want it to!

Thank you!

Josiah
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@PalmettoStateArmory

Baghdad Rod and Gun Club?
Baghdad Summer Camp?
Or
Some kind of shithole theme without the "shithole" or perhaps with the "shithole"
Do you creative guys ITT have any Afghanistan or rockpile ideas?"

I have an OIF lower from a small run of OIF and OEF lowers PSA made about 5 years ago. I dont think they had the visibility that this thread offers.
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 1:38:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/860/42958391634_31e49de67b_b.jpg

Guys,

This is the official lower for Christmas!! I am submitting the variance today on this one. The only thing that may change is the stocking on the leg, which @BrickWurX already made two other possibilites for us on that. If it is too detailed, it may not come out right on the lower. Also, caliber will be Multi.

Thank you!!

Josiah
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A Christmas Story is my favorite movie next to National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation.
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 1:39:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Guys,

Here is a list of what we are going to be doing in 2018 for these limited edition lowers. I need to reign things in so everyone's budget does not bleed too badly.

1. Gremlin - Done
2. SpaceForce-15 - Waiting on Variance and Production
3. DailyDeals-15 - Waiting on Variance and Production
4. MADDOG-15 - Waiting on Variance and Production
5. Wall-10 - Waiting on Variance and Production
6. Halloween - Need ideas.
7. Thanksgiving - Need ideas.
8. Christmas - Waiting on Variance and Production

First thing in January 2019 is when we will start producing the following at a pace of about 1 per month.

1. Arfcom lower
2. No Step on Snek
3. Possibility of Fallout, as long as no copy right issues.
4. ANYTHING ELSE COOL YOU GUYS CAN THINK OF!!!

Keep the ideas and artwork flowing! We will keep this going as long as you guys want it to!

Thank you!

Josiah
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WOO HOO a Fallout lower for 2019!!!
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 2:59:39 PM EDT
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This is bestest thread Evarrrr!  I'm gonna need to do the shadow box idea because there's no way in hell I can swing building all of these out any time soon
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 3:01:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Guys,

Here is a list of what we are going to be doing in 2018 for these limited edition lowers. I need to reign things in so everyone's budget does not bleed too badly.

1. Gremlin - Done
2. SpaceForce-15 - Waiting on Variance and Production
3. DailyDeals-15 - Waiting on Variance and Production
4. MADDOG-15 - Waiting on Variance and Production
5. Wall-10 - Waiting on Variance and Production
6. Halloween - Need ideas.
7. Thanksgiving - Need ideas.
8. Christmas - Waiting on Variance and Production

First thing in January 2019 is when we will start producing the following at a pace of about 1 per month.

1. Arfcom lower
2. No Step on Snek
3. Possibility of Fallout, as long as no copy right issues.
4. ANYTHING ELSE COOL YOU GUYS CAN THINK OF!!!

Keep the ideas and artwork flowing! We will keep this going as long as you guys want it to!

Thank you!

Josiah
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This is awesome of PSA to do!

Thanks for the update showing the order planned... However, I have to wonder/ask is there a better way to pre-order? I am interested in a few of these (Wall, Snek & Fallout for sure) but since there is no for-sure set date (and we are talking about stringing it out a bit so everyone doesn't go broke) is the best way to get in on a pre-order is just check this thread daily? I am afraid I am going to forget to check in in 3-4 months!
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 3:03:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: stinkypol] [#19]
Gremlin #52 will be getting this upper out of the EE

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And the lower build kit......
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Link Posted: 8/6/2018 3:05:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kit_Karson:

This is awesome of PSA to do!

Thanks for the update showing the order planned... However, I have to wonder/ask is there a better way to pre-order? I am interested in a few of these (Wall, Snek & Fallout for sure) but since there is no for-sure set date (and we are talking about stringing it out a bit so everyone doesn't go broke) is the best way to get in on a pre-order is just check this thread daily? I am afraid I am going to forget to check in in 3-4 months!
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Just keep looking in your subscriptions like a crack addict
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 3:10:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gman82001:

Just keep looking in your subscriptions like a crack addict
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I had been! however life gets in the way and it is sometimes a week before I get back on to check into things! I am not too concerned with the Wall one, as it seems that one would be finalized in the next short while. I am more worried about the 2019 ones... looking like after the Wall upper I can sit out until maybe February? I ain't that old, but I am gonna forget that!
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 3:58:16 PM EDT
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couldn't hold out any longer, sent my email for daily deals
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 4:30:11 PM EDT
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[b]Originally Posted By vdub90vw:[/
Semper Fi Dog Rescue Lower
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For 50.00 with the extra donated.
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 4:40:49 PM EDT
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I'll be in for No Step on Snek, for sure.
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 5:08:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By shack357:
For 50.00 with the extra donated.
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Originally Posted By shack357:
[b]Originally Posted By vdub90vw:[/
Semper Fi Dog Rescue Lower
For 50.00 with the extra donated.
I'd be willing to go even higher if the extra was donated.
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 5:25:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kit_Karson:

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his is awesome of PSA to do!
Thanks for the update showing the order planned... However, I have to wonder/ask is there a better way to pre-order? I am interested in a few of these (Wall, Snek & Fallout for sure) but since there is no for-sure set date (and we are talking about stringing it out a bit so everyone doesn't go broke) is the best way to get in on a pre-order is just check this thread daily? I am afraid I am going to forget to check in in 3-4 months!
This would be great.
Maybe have a page to get on an email list for specific lowers, then as they go into pre-production we get notified.
Hmm, that could get kind of messy. Ah well, gotta keep up with the thread anyway.

Note: Josiah @PalmettoStateArmory please go with the already shown Thanksgiving lower! Maybe put 'Gobble?' under/by the turkey?
And the Snek, need a couple of those. Maybe keep that one on rotation!

Just curious, does a variance allow for multiple runs or a single run of a limited number?

ETA: And the Semper Fi! That one would be awesome.  I think even my "I don't like guns" daughter might like that one.
With some money going to Joker1's project. Gonna need a poster doggie for that one . . .
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 5:29:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 5pt56:
PSA,
PLEASE DO THIS!!!!!!! Clone lower and you'll sell the hell out of them! You'll have to get a bigger safe to stack your hundo's in!

PROPERTY
OF U.S. GOVT.
M4A1 CARBINE
CAL. 5.56 MM.
X1234567

The company name & location would be in its normal location. Selector markings would be SAFE, SEMI, AUTO (both sides). The word “Property” would be spaced/justified such that its letters are even from P to Y across the top of the words below it. No logo on the mag well and please not marked “multi.” Font is something normal and not gigantic
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^ This. I would definitely be interested in some M4A1 clone lowers.

ETA: Basically this:



Replace Colt Defense with PSA info. Either delete the Colt pony or alter it enough you wouldn't have copyright issues. Those things would sell like crazy.
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 5:33:53 PM EDT
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No step on Snek , yes!  Literally my wifi name
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 5:42:34 PM EDT
[#29]
I will throw out a few ideas, just spit-balling here... Apologies if any of these have been dismissed already as I started the thread, but after the epic PSA response I skipped a large number of pages in the interm. Also, I am not an artist so I will leave the drawing up to others.

1) Die Hard - (Yippee-ki-yay, MF?)
2) Full Metal Jacket - Pvt. Joker, Pvt. Cowboy, Gunny
2a) R. Lee Ermey Tribute? - Mail Call, Lock 'n Load, FMJ
3) Evil Dead/Army of Darkness - "Shop Smart, Shop S-Mart" roll? - Axe, Boomstick, Groovy

Thoughts?
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 5:55:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
Guys,

Here is a list of what we are going to be doing in 2018 for these limited edition lowers. I need to reign things in so everyone's budget does not bleed too badly.

1. Gremlin - Done
2. SpaceForce-15 - Waiting on Variance and Production
3. DailyDeals-15 - Waiting on Variance and Production
4. MADDOG-15 - Waiting on Variance and Production
5. Wall-10 - Waiting on Variance and Production
6. Halloween - Need ideas.
7. Thanksgiving - Need ideas.
8. Christmas - Waiting on Variance and Production

First thing in January 2019 is when we will start producing the following at a pace of about 1 per month.

1. Arfcom lower
2. No Step on Snek
3. Possibility of Fallout, as long as no copy right issues.
4. ANYTHING ELSE COOL YOU GUYS CAN THINK OF!!!

Keep the ideas and artwork flowing! We will keep this going as long as you guys want it to!

Thank you!

Josiah
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Are you taking the email pre-orders on the MADDOG, and WALL-10 lowers?
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 6:53:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/6/2018 7:17:42 PM EDT
[#32]
After my typical ATF delay and finally getting a chance to get to my FFL, POOP0217 is home!

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Link Posted: 8/6/2018 7:57:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:I will let you guys know on here when we cut off this one, and start the next preorder.

Thank you!!

Josiah
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Waiting on the Christmas lower preorder.  Just like Ralphie and his decoder ring.
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 9:12:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By XeonEvolved:
Different idea for H_B_R lower:

His falfiles avatar:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/452963/HBR-631448.JPG

Scene from HEAT:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/452963/HEAT-631447.JPG

Could change it to a Jason style mask to combine it into a Halloween theme.
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This doesn't sounds like a bad idea for a Halloween lower. Not A bad idea at all. Maybe a full pun on pun, as to not get into any issues. Technically a tribute, but not a tribute. Mask does work for Halloween.
If this happens, we are gonna need to get HBR a lower.
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 9:18:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Doodles:
I know I counted at least four of us want one. It's patriotic but humorous at the same time.

Roll Mark: NO STEP ON SNEK

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/485060/thRU3JWP84-629385.jpg

FREEDOM-15

SN: SNEK0087

SAFE = LIFE
SEMI = LIBERTY
AUTO= HAPPINESS (happy switch)

What do you think Josiah @PalmettoStateArmory ?
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Originally Posted By Doodles:
Originally Posted By Getnlwr:

I would like a no step on snek lower
I know I counted at least four of us want one. It's patriotic but humorous at the same time.

Roll Mark: NO STEP ON SNEK

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/485060/thRU3JWP84-629385.jpg

FREEDOM-15

SN: SNEK0087

SAFE = LIFE
SEMI = LIBERTY
AUTO= HAPPINESS (happy switch)

What do you think Josiah @PalmettoStateArmory ?
For Doodles, Getnlwr, and those that asked.
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 9:23:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BrickWurX:
For Doodles, Getnlwr, and those that asked.
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Originally Posted By BrickWurX:
Originally Posted By Doodles:
Originally Posted By Getnlwr:

I would like a no step on snek lower
I know I counted at least four of us want one. It's patriotic but humorous at the same time.

Roll Mark: NO STEP ON SNEK

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FREEDOM-15

SN: SNEK0087

SAFE = LIFE
SEMI = LIBERTY
AUTO= HAPPINESS (happy switch)

What do you think Josiah @PalmettoStateArmory ?
For Doodles, Getnlwr, and those that asked.
Please yes
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 9:24:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By XeonEvolved:
Different idea for H_B_R lower:

His falfiles avatar:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/452963/HBR-631448.JPG

Scene from HEAT:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/452963/HEAT-631447.JPG

Could change it to a Jason style mask to combine it into a Halloween theme.
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Link Posted: 8/6/2018 9:41:15 PM EDT
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If you can do a fallout lower, I'll buy one or two. Bonus points if it's a Vault-Tec logo!
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 9:46:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/6/2018 9:52:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KrazyL:
If you can do a fallout lower, I'll buy one or two. Bonus points if it's a Vault-Tec logo!
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Vault-Tec are bastards.

-The sole survivor, ca 2287
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 10:00:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BrickWurX:

For Doodles, Getnlwr, and those that asked.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1777/43177435124_07a94bb156_b.jpg
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I'll take a few.

I would like to use the font from the original of the drawing if possible. That's part of what made it funny.
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 10:02:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BrickWurX:

For Doodles, Getnlwr, and those that asked.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1777/43177435124_07a94bb156_b.jpg
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Lol I definitely want a SNEK-15
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 10:08:14 PM EDT
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Nice work, but lets give him a chainsaw.  The current look has a psyco mass shooter look to it.
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 10:09:05 PM EDT
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Work and life have been insane lately and I’ve had these sitting at the ffl. Finally got time this afternoon to pick them up.

Ordered one the day it went live and when Josiah opened the gates at the end when there was only a handful left, I grabbed two more.  Had I realized this was going to turn into what it has, basically a lower a month club, I would have stuck with one.  Oh well, stack em deep.

Flingin poo all year (365)

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Not shipped
Charged Card
Lost a customer

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Originally Posted By Getnlwr:
I'll take a few.

I would like to use the font from the original of the drawing if possible. That's part of what made it funny.
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Originally Posted By Getnlwr:
Originally Posted By BrickWurX:

For Doodles, Getnlwr, and those that asked.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1777/43177435124_07a94bb156_b.jpg
I'll take a few.

I would like to use the font from the original of the drawing if possible. That's part of what made it funny.
I like the concept. I agree with the font and it's missing its tongue.

I was envisioning more of a spin of don't tread on me by a 5 year old. Something I would draw.

I was trying to tie in the PSA Freedom upper line along with a patriotic and humor feel with the model, serial # and selector markings. That just my thoughts. I don't know what others would like. We can go the pure humor route, either way.
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 10:25:23 PM EDT
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1st attempt at painting a lower.  I still have to clean it up a bit & it looks like a Christmas tree but hell, a .458 is supposed to be outrageous!  
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 10:29:06 PM EDT
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fixed
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 10:34:20 PM EDT
[#49]
I may regret suggesting this (because PSA just might do it - costing me MORE money), but I wouldn't exactly be opposed to an AR-9 lower
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 10:41:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Beclyn:
I may regret suggesting this (because PSA just might do it - costing me MORE money), but I wouldn't exactly be opposed to an AR-9 lower
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AR-45

Something like, Short and Fat still gets it done.
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