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3/16/2017 11:07:02 AM EDT
My idiot savant like numeric recall can no longer keep up with the quantity and complexity of passwords required. What password keeper is regarded highest these days (ease of use, trustworthiness, cross platform capabilities, etc)?

LastPass was often touted as the best last I had heard. Still true? What do you use and like?


ETA: I use PCs and iPhones.
3/16/2017 11:40:35 AM EDT
[#1]
My IT guy told me to use lastpass.
3/16/2017 11:41:58 AM EDT
[#2]
lastpass + google authenticator.  
3/16/2017 11:44:31 AM EDT
[#3]
Can somebody explain to me how something like this is secure? Say I have lastpass and it saves all of my passwords to a server. Now a potential hacker needs only 1 username and password to gain access to all of my banking, email, social media, etc accounts.

That sounds like a very, very, bad idea.
3/16/2017 11:48:06 AM EDT
[#4]
I use KeyPass, but the general consensus is that LastPass is an easier program.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1912135_-ARCHIVED-THREAD----Password-managers-for-older-folks.html&page=1
3/16/2017 11:49:06 AM EDT
[#5]
I use Lastpass, and it's great.
3/16/2017 11:50:16 AM EDT
[#6]
Dashlane has provided me a terrific false sense of security for two years-ish...
3/16/2017 11:51:41 AM EDT
[#7]
I think the one I use is just called Keeper.
3/16/2017 11:54:30 AM EDT
[#8]
post-it notes under the keyboard
3/16/2017 12:11:35 PM EDT
[#9]
I've been using Illium Software's eWallet since the Windows CE days.  I like the fact that it will sync to my computer and iFail through drop box.
3/16/2017 12:16:27 PM EDT
[#10]
@subnet


I use epim.
3/16/2017 12:20:54 PM EDT
[#11]
I use a small rite-n-rain notebook
3/16/2017 12:27:11 PM EDT
[#12]
I use "premium" Lastpass + authenticator.

Only for the plethora of bullshit logins I have, they got "cracked" a few months ago by I think a Twitter spoof or something like that.  meh whatever.

everything that matters is on paper, no where else, and gets changed from a different computer than the daily driver.  I do not bank online.
3/16/2017 12:37:23 PM EDT
[#13]
I personally use LastPass Premium (it's just so damn easy), but Keepass is probably the solution for the hyper-paranoid and security conscious...even if it's a bit geekier and a bit more of a "roll your own" kind of solution. The price is definitely right...
3/16/2017 12:38:03 PM EDT
[#14]
I use KeePass and have for the last five or ten years.

I'm not willing to let someone else keep my passwords. I do email my AES 256 encrypted database to myself at work and at Gmail so it is available.

Since it's so easy both my user name and passwords are complex strings of gibberish as long as they permit.
3/16/2017 2:07:43 PM EDT
[#15]
I've used Roboform for ~6 years.

Simple, integrates with most browsers, does, bookmarks, logins, notes. multiple computers,
can run from a flash drive.

Works for me. $40 +/- year.
3/16/2017 2:12:05 PM EDT
[#16]
Use passphrases instead of passwords so you can remember them. Don't use any cloud based password keeper.
3/16/2017 2:12:15 PM EDT
[#17]
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^^^ If you need to access on multiple systems/platforms.


KeePass if you're only on 1 machine on non-mobile devices (this doesn't include laptops, but does include Chromebooks).
3/16/2017 2:14:20 PM EDT
[#18]
I use KeePass or Mini KeePass, manually uploading the encrypted file to my Dropbox account to share across devices. It's a bit kludgy but works for me.
3/16/2017 2:21:36 PM EDT
[#19]
Been using 1Password for 14 months. Used RoboForm and LastPass in the past, all are good.
3/16/2017 2:31:15 PM EDT
[#20]
Lastpass
3/16/2017 2:33:36 PM EDT
[#21]
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Pass phrases are only a nano-cunt hair better than pass words as they still contain dictionary words which are low entropy.

Example:

"Dildo123" is essentially 4 "digits" ( Dildo +1+ 2 +3)

"AnyThingIsADildoIfYoureBraveEnough" takes way longer to type, but is essentially still only 9 "digits" and is still easily solved via dictionary attack.
3/16/2017 2:38:01 PM EDT
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Can somebody explain to me how something like this is secure? Say I have lastpass and it saves all of my passwords to a server. Now a potential hacker needs only 1 username and password to gain access to all of my banking, email, social media, etc accounts.

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3/16/2017 2:46:29 PM EDT
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Can somebody explain to me how something like this is secure? Say I have lastpass and it saves all of my passwords to a server. Now a potential hacker needs only 1 username and password to gain access to all of my banking, email, social media, etc accounts.

That sounds like a very, very, bad idea.
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You use a very strong, unique password and do your best to make sure you're not vulnerable to a MITM attack.
3/16/2017 2:51:53 PM EDT
[#24]
I use a piece of paper and a pen.
3/16/2017 2:52:18 PM EDT
[#25]
I use a little black notebook thats in my home office desk.  I use a pencil to write them in.
3/16/2017 2:54:50 PM EDT
[#26]
I'm probably doing it wrong.  I keep them in a Word document on a flash drive.  It sucks when I need one and the flash drive is at work.
3/16/2017 2:56:18 PM EDT
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Can somebody explain to me how something like this is secure? Say I have lastpass and it saves all of my passwords to a server. Now a potential hacker needs only 1 username and password to gain access to all of my banking, email, social media, etc accounts.

That sounds like a very, very, bad idea.
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You use a very strong, unique password and do your best to make sure you're not vulnerable to a MITM attack.
Long phrases with numbers mixed into spaces.

MITM attacks are still a weakness.

A thumb drive with encryption is another possibility.
3/16/2017 2:56:33 PM EDT
[#28]
I have heard kee pass works well...
3/16/2017 2:58:23 PM EDT
[#29]
KeePass
3/16/2017 3:20:34 PM EDT
[#30]
I use KeePass.  And that is what we use in my IT dept.
3/16/2017 3:42:52 PM EDT
[#31]
I started to use 1Password, then I didn't use it for a while.  Now I can't remember my app password.
3/16/2017 3:45:07 PM EDT
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I use KeePass on a thumb drive and my iOS devices.

I sync the databases through a personal "cloud" (Synology).
3/16/2017 3:48:36 PM EDT
[#33]
I use Enpass. It's a few bucks to unlock the mobile version but is well worth it. It's also cross platform so you can use it on multiple devices. You're also not locked into using "cloud" features if you don't want to.
3/19/2017 10:23:18 AM EDT
[#34]
I use Password Safe, originally written by Bruce Schneier (creator of the Blowfish, Twofish and Threefish ciphers). You can create your own encrypted file that contains all your usernames, passwords and associated data for each account. You can save it locally. However, I save mine in the root of my Google Drive directory. That way, I install Password Safe on my home and work computers and open up the Google Drive location. 

The file lives with Google, but it's encrypted so Google can't do anything with it. So I still maintain full control of the file and don't have to depend on a cloud service to protect my login. If Google Drive gets hacker, the attackers only get my encrypted file.

Password Safe

Android App
3/19/2017 10:25:39 AM EDT
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This.
3/19/2017 10:29:35 AM EDT
[#36]
3X5 cards in my pocket.  One is taped to my cpu on the desk.

Go ahead, try to use them, there are no identifying links to numerous accounts.  Completely secure air gaps to everything.
3/19/2017 10:31:14 AM EDT
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3/19/2017 10:31:50 AM EDT
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I've been using 1Password on my iPhones for 7 or 8 years. They just finally updated their software. It's easy to use. 

I'm never without my phone so keeping everything on my phone works for me. 
3/19/2017 10:37:40 AM EDT
[#39]
Forgot Your Password notebook.
3/19/2017 10:49:01 AM EDT
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Long phrases with numbers mixed into spaces.

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And substitute "3" for "E," "4" fo "H," and "1" for "I." There's some weapons-grade entropy.
3/19/2017 10:50:58 AM EDT
[#41]
Another vote for 1password.
3/19/2017 10:52:07 AM EDT
[#42]
I use a password protected word doc on my one drive / google drive.  I literally have about 30 accounts that require all kinds of different passwords.  Password protection on a word doc basically encrypts the file.

It works great until you need to access your password list from a computer that doesn't have a full office install though.
3/19/2017 10:53:56 AM EDT
[#43]
Keepass with the database stored on my own server. 

No way would I ever store my passwords on someone else's server no matter what encryption they claim. For you Lastpass guys you do know they were hacked in 2015 right?
3/19/2017 3:07:18 PM EDT
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3X5 cards in my pocket.  One is taped to my cpu on the desk.

Go ahead, try to use them, there are no identifying links to numerous accounts.  Completely secure air gaps to everything.
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To be frank, this is what I'm leaning towards. I only have about 15 sites I frequent so I could print and laminate those 15 plus an additional 15-20 bogus ones onto a card that would slip between my phone and the back of it's case (and a few spare copies for work/home/car/etc.). Only I would know which ones are legit and go to what. It's simple, easily changed, and pretty damned secure. As posted numerous times in this thread, putting ALL my passwords into ONE pot under somebody else's care is a BIG turn off.
3/19/2017 5:47:05 PM EDT
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Can somebody explain to me how something like this is secure? Say I have lastpass and it saves all of my passwords to a server. Now a potential hacker needs only 1 username and password to gain access to all of my banking, email, social media, etc accounts.

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I would like to know that as well.
3/19/2017 6:12:05 PM EDT
[#46]
I use keepass in dropbox which syncs across all my devices.  Everything is a trade-off and this is the best option they'd have to hack dropbox and then keepass.  frankly there are easier targets out there.
3/19/2017 6:30:47 PM EDT
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I use Password Safe, originally written by Bruce Schneier (creator of the Blowfish, Twofish and Threefish ciphers). You can create your own encrypted file that contains all your usernames, passwords and associated data for each account. You can save it locally. However, I save mine in the root of my Google Drive directory. That way, I install Password Safe on my home and work computers and open up the Google Drive location. 

The file lives with Google, but it's encrypted so Google can't do anything with it. So I still maintain full control of the file and don't have to depend on a cloud service to protect my login. If Google Drive gets hacker, the attackers only get my encrypted file.

Password Safe

Android App
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I use that and do something similar. There are several corps that use Password Safe.
3/19/2017 6:34:34 PM EDT
[#48]
i just keep mine in a hidden container within a truecrypt file.

Just don't forget the truecrypt password
3/19/2017 6:36:27 PM EDT
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Can somebody explain to me how something like this is secure? Say I have lastpass and it saves all of my passwords to a server. Now a potential hacker needs only 1 username and password to gain access to all of my banking, email, social media, etc accounts.

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because Lastpass doesn't actually have your passwords.

it has hashed and salted versions of your passwords, which can't be used to reverse engineer your actual password
3/19/2017 6:47:28 PM EDT
[#50]
I like the Yubikey for 2FA for those that support it.

LastPass or 1Password at home.
Keepass at work.
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