Posted: 3/17/2009 4:56:28 PM EDT
I just sold a Magpul UBR stock on ebay for $300+ and was payed instantly by the buyer. I then get an email from PP saying that the funds are on hold until they buyer confirms they receive the item. I'm not shipping this stock until I have the funds in hand. What type of liberal bull shit are they trying to pull. Fuck Obama PayPal
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Quoted: This is new and it's a huge pain in the ass....they will automatically release the funds if you ship through paypal (3 days after arrival)...or if you get positive feedback...or if 28 days go by...whichever comes first. I just found out about this last week when I sold some stuff on there. I just sold a Magpul UBR stock on ebay for $300+ and was payed instantly by the buyer. I then get an email from PP saying that the funds are on hold until they buyer confirms they receive the item. I'm not shipping this stock until I have the funds in hand. What type of liberal bull shit are they trying to pull. Fuck Obama PayPal ETA: they did, in fact, release the funds 72 hours after the buyer signed for it...the new policy sucks. If I were selling gun stuff I would just sell it here on the EE... |
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This is new and it's a huge pain in the ass....they will automatically release the funds if you ship through paypal (3 days after arrival)...or if you get positive feedback...or if 28 days go by...whichever comes first. I just found out about this last week when I sold some stuff on there.
I just sold a Magpul UBR stock on ebay for $300+ and was payed instantly by the buyer. I then get an email from PP saying that the funds are on hold until they buyer confirms they receive the item. I'm not shipping this stock until I have the funds in hand. What type of liberal bull shit are they trying to pull. Fuck Obama PayPal ETA: they did, in fact, release the funds 72 hours after the buyer signed for it...the new policy sucks. If I were selling gun stuff I would just sell it here on the EE... I can guarantee paypal that this item won't ship until I have cash in hand. I don't order an item from an online retailer and tell them I'll pay them 3 days after I receive it or after I've decided that I'm happy with it. |
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I just refunded that buyer's money. I'm not dealing with PayPal's BS. I don't blame you one bit. Do a backdoor deal. Tell the guy to just send you non-auction money. That way, FUCK EBAY and PAYPAL. They don't hold the money in that case. I sent him an email that told him that I would sell it direct to him for the same price but won't deal with PP's nonsense. If I get a -1 w/ ebay I don't care. |
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I find it difficult to understand why anyone would consider dealing with PayPal after years and years of bad press and page after page of personal accounts of problems with them. I used to be a regular on eBay. Once they made it mandatory for everyone to use PayPal, I dropped them like dead weight.
Craigslist's overall activity has grown considerably in response to eBay's continuously restrictive policies. Good for them. I bet Amazon has gotten some of their business as well. |
I sold an item on Ebay that was paid for by PayPal on Dec. 18th. Instant payment was made through PayPal, item was shipped asap. Three days later I receive +feeback stating "Great Ebayer". The buyers name included "1970 Bee", and they purchased a 1970 Bee diecast. All is well right? Wrong. Last week I received an Email saying this purchase was made without the Bee's authorization and PayPal made my empty account in the red for the amount until the dispute was settled. I told PayPal that + feedback was received!!!! They said that did not matter, and that buyer can pull funding for up to one year. I told them that was the last straw and to FOAD!!! I will never accept or use PayPal for ANYTHING ever again. Lesson learned.........
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I'm actually a lil scurred.
I just bought a bluray player off ebay and got a great deal. It was a new user, so I'm a bit concerned they may grab the cash and bolt. Paypal said it's a "covered transaction" but I aint gonna feel okay till I get the thing. I would have felt a shitload better if they had held the funds pending shipment.
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I'm actually a lil scurred. I just bought a bluray player off ebay and got a great deal. It was a new user, so I'm a bit concerned they may grab the cash and bolt. Paypal said it's a "covered transaction" but I aint gonna feel okay till I get the thing. I would have felt a shitload better if they had held the funds pending shipment. No real reason to be worried, as the buyer you hold all the power, paypal will almost universally fuck over the seller in favor of the buyer and if they don't, you just dispute the charges with your CC company. |
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I just sold a Magpul UBR stock on ebay for $300+ and was payed instantly by the buyer. I then get an email from PP saying that the funds are on hold until they buyer confirms they receive the item. I'm not shipping this stock until I have the funds in hand. What type of liberal bull shit are they trying to pull. Fuck Obama PayPal Anyone heard of Google checkout? Thanks N2B8 |
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I'm actually a lil scurred. I just bought a bluray player off ebay and got a great deal. It was a new user, so I'm a bit concerned they may grab the cash and bolt. Paypal said it's a "covered transaction" but I aint gonna feel okay till I get the thing. I would have felt a shitload better if they had held the funds pending shipment. No real reason to be worried, as the buyer you hold all the power, paypal will almost universally fuck over the seller in favor of the buyer and if they don't, you just dispute the charges with your CC company. IF, he funded the payment with a credit card. |
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I have $600 in lingo with an Ebay seller right now. Fing FedEx probably stole the contents of the package and I'm working with them to get a refund which goes to the seller first.
I want to pull my funds through PayPal and let the seller sort out the mess with FedEx. |
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Anyone heard of Google checkout?
Thanks N2B8 I ordered a T-shirt on 2/27 for my buddy for his b-day, used Google Checkout. Credit card charged that day. Says shipped on 3/2 B-day comes and goes on 3/10, no fuckyng shirt. Call on 3/16, "oh, those will ship on Thursday or Friday of this week" WTF? Over. |
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Your doing it wrong
Paypal and ebay are both anti gun...granted and the rules favor the buyer more than the seller.....granted I have never , in many ,many years selling and buying a lot of stuff had an issue with paypal or ebay. The hold on funds is for new sellers to make sure you aren't scamming someone. sell a few things and they will stop putting a hold on it. I have never had funds held. I have also had disputes filed by buyers, I kept all documentation and have never had to refund a penny. Keep your tracking info, sell to verified paypal buyers and ship to paypal confirmed addresses. It's really not that difficult. |
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Your doing it wrong Paypal and ebay are both anti gun...granted and the rules favor the buyer more than the seller.....granted I have never , in many ,many years selling and buying a lot of stuff had an issue with paypal or ebay. The hold on funds is for new sellers to make sure you aren't scamming someone. sell a few things and they will stop putting a hold on it. I have never had funds held. I have also had disputes filed by buyers, I kept all documentation and have never had to refund a penny. Keep your tracking info, sell to verified paypal buyers and ship to paypal confirmed addresses. It's really not that difficult. But it's so much more fun to bitch . . . |
| I had a similar expeiance. I sold 10 oz of silver on ebay and the buyer put a hold on the funds. I was less than pleased and told the buyer to release the fund immediatley. He refused so I said fine then I am not shipping you the silver. He started with the whole your obligated BS. I told him to go fist himself, the money is not in my hot little hand so he hasn't bought crap. Long story short he tried getting me in trouble with egay, didn't work because I didn't give a crap. Not like it goes on your credit score. Then he finally released the funds and everyone was happy. I try to avoid abay now but when I do I put a note staing that 1) beacause egay is forcing me to accept paypal, there will be a 3% sur charge, and 2) that if funds are held the item will be relisted and the buyer refunded their money. Ebay started out being a good thing. Capitolism at its best. Now its turning to socialism at its worst by people who want to control everything. |
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I sold an item on Ebay that was paid for by PayPal on Dec. 18th. Instant payment was made through PayPal, item was shipped asap. Three days later I receive +feeback stating "Great Ebayer". The buyers name included "1970 Bee", and they purchased a 1970 Bee diecast. All is well right? Wrong. Last week I received an Email saying this purchase was made without the Bee's authorization and PayPal made my empty account in the red for the amount until the dispute was settled. I told PayPal that + feedback was received!!!! They said that did not matter, and that buyer can pull funding for up to one year. I told them that was the last straw and to FOAD!!! I will never accept or use PayPal for ANYTHING ever again. Lesson learned......... Paypal is heavily skewed to protect the buyer at all costs, and will screw the seller in a heartbeat. This new policy sounds like even more bias towards the buyer. My Sister run a business that does probably 50K a year of business with those morons, but that didn't stop them from stealing funds from her account and freezing it when one whiny ass customer complained to them. No investigation, no return of the product, nothing. They just stole the money back and refunded the buyer, so he got the money and the item. She still uses them though, there is really no alternative. 
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Quoted: Quoted: I sold an item on Ebay that was paid for by PayPal on Dec. 18th. Instant payment was made through PayPal, item was shipped asap. Three days later I receive +feeback stating "Great Ebayer". The buyers name included "1970 Bee", and they purchased a 1970 Bee diecast. All is well right? Wrong. Last week I received an Email saying this purchase was made without the Bee's authorization and PayPal made my empty account in the red for the amount until the dispute was settled. I told PayPal that + feedback was received!!!! They said that did not matter, and that buyer can pull funding for up to one year. I told them that was the last straw and to FOAD!!! I will never accept or use PayPal for ANYTHING ever again. Lesson learned......... Paypal is heavily skewed to protect the buyer at all costs, and will screw the seller in a heartbeat. This new policy sounds like even more bias towards the buyer. My Sister run a business that does probably 50K a year of business with those morons, but that didn't stop them from stealing funds from her account and freezing it when one whiny ass customer complained to them. No investigation, no return of the product, nothing. They just stole the money back and refunded the buyer, so he got the money and the item. She still uses them though, there is really no alternative. i dont know anything about your sister's business, but what about google checkout? |
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I sold an item on Ebay that was paid for by PayPal on Dec. 18th. Instant payment was made through PayPal, item was shipped asap. Three days later I receive +feeback stating "Great Ebayer". The buyers name included "1970 Bee", and they purchased a 1970 Bee diecast. All is well right? Wrong. Last week I received an Email saying this purchase was made without the Bee's authorization and PayPal made my empty account in the red for the amount until the dispute was settled. I told PayPal that + feedback was received!!!! They said that did not matter, and that buyer can pull funding for up to one year. I told them that was the last straw and to FOAD!!! I will never accept or use PayPal for ANYTHING ever again. Lesson learned......... Paypal is heavily skewed to protect the buyer at all costs, and will screw the seller in a heartbeat. This new policy sounds like even more bias towards the buyer. My Sister run a business that does probably 50K a year of business with those morons, but that didn't stop them from stealing funds from her account and freezing it when one whiny ass customer complained to them. No investigation, no return of the product, nothing. They just stole the money back and refunded the buyer, so he got the money and the item. She still uses them though, there is really no alternative. i dont know anything about your sister's business, but what about google checkout? Good question, I'll have to run that by her. She doesn't sell on Ebay so she can ditch Paypal as soon as a viable alternative exists. I don't think Google checkout lets you actually set up an "account" to transfer money into/out of though, does it? I thought it was pretty much just a credit card processing service. |
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Same thing happened with me recently...60 perfect transactions ..no issues no problems.
List a guitar for sale and put the usual disclaimer in the ad as always "US postal money order only. Ebay pulls the ad and says must accept paypal...ok fuckers whatever so I rerun ad stating us postal money order or paypal paypal pls add 3 % to cover the fees. Ebay pulls ad again this time stating I cannot ask buyer to pay fees that is "fee avoidance"!. Now why do they care who pays their fucking fees anyway buyer or seller they get their cut regardless.....GRRRRR. Replace ad with postal money order or paypal only. item sells buyer uses paypal of course and they pull the hold fees bs untill buyer posts good feedback. Screw that I tell buyer if he can't get them to release the funds he hasn't bought a guitar..he can't get any action after speaking with 4 agents so I refund his money and that was that. It worked so well before too...what a crock.
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I sold an item on Ebay that was paid for by PayPal on Dec. 18th. Instant payment was made through PayPal, item was shipped asap. Three days later I receive +feeback stating "Great Ebayer". The buyers name included "1970 Bee", and they purchased a 1970 Bee diecast. All is well right? Wrong. Last week I received an Email saying this purchase was made without the Bee's authorization and PayPal made my empty account in the red for the amount until the dispute was settled. I told PayPal that + feedback was received!!!! They said that did not matter, and that buyer can pull funding for up to one year. I told them that was the last straw and to FOAD!!! I will never accept or use PayPal for ANYTHING ever again. Lesson learned......... Paypal is heavily skewed to protect the buyer at all costs, and will screw the seller in a heartbeat. This new policy sounds like even more bias towards the buyer. My Sister run a business that does probably 50K a year of business with those morons, but that didn't stop them from stealing funds from her account and freezing it when one whiny ass customer complained to them. No investigation, no return of the product, nothing. They just stole the money back and refunded the buyer, so he got the money and the item. She still uses them though, there is really no alternative. i dont know anything about your sister's business, but what about google checkout? Good question, I'll have to run that by her. She doesn't sell on Ebay so she can ditch Paypal as soon as a viable alternative exists. I don't think Google checkout lets you actually set up an "account" to transfer money into/out of though, does it? I thought it was pretty much just a credit card processing service. from the 30 sec research i did, you are correct. |
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This is new and it's a huge pain in the ass....they will automatically release the funds if you ship through paypal (3 days after arrival)...or if you get positive feedback...or if 28 days go by...whichever comes first. I just found out about this last week when I sold some stuff on there.
I just sold a Magpul UBR stock on ebay for $300+ and was payed instantly by the buyer. I then get an email from PP saying that the funds are on hold until they buyer confirms they receive the item. I'm not shipping this stock until I have the funds in hand. What type of liberal bull shit are they trying to pull. Fuck Obama PayPal ETA: they did, in fact, release the funds 72 hours after the buyer signed for it...the new policy sucks. If I were selling gun stuff I would just sell it here on the EE... I can guarantee paypal that this item won't ship until I have cash in hand. I don't order an item from an online retailer and tell them I'll pay them 3 days after I receive it or after I've decided that I'm happy with it. Actually that's exactly how it works. The CC company keeps a pool of funds in case the buyer disputes that charge so they can go back and take it from the seller. The buyer paid upfront for the stuff, but the intermediary does not release it immediately. I agree it is annoying though. |
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