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3/6/2007 4:12:24 PM EDT
On Dateline NBC.

The next guy they catch has an Arsenal in his car.


3/6/2007 4:13:21 PM EDT
[#1]
Tuning in for giggles.

- BG
3/6/2007 4:42:58 PM EDT
[#2]
He is armed to the teeth.

ZOMG!!!!!1111
3/6/2007 4:51:16 PM EDT
[#3]
Hollow point Bullets designed to penetrate body armor.



3/6/2007 4:53:24 PM EDT
[#4]
I love the pathetic spin they put on the evil guns, with cop killing hollow point bullets.
3/6/2007 4:55:14 PM EDT
[#5]
please someone post the clps/magazine picture
3/6/2007 4:58:04 PM EDT
[#6]
Wouldn't a vest actually stop hollow points better than hard ball?
3/6/2007 4:59:05 PM EDT
[#7]
Ok, yeah.

We have pedos within our ranks. I've known this for a long time. Just "police our own" when you find one.
3/6/2007 4:59:09 PM EDT
[#8]
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!
3/6/2007 4:59:11 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Wouldn't a vest actually stop hollow points better than hard ball?


Yes.  But the media is stupid.
3/6/2007 5:00:06 PM EDT
[#10]
LOL thats why only cops should have guns...
3/6/2007 5:00:21 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!




Anyone who calls the PJ stings entrapment is a closet pedo sympathizer.

"They weren't talking to a real kid so they did nothing wrong."

3/6/2007 5:03:01 PM EDT
[#12]
What did I miss?
3/6/2007 5:03:17 PM EDT
[#13]
Some of those lines really pi$$ed me off. I'm looking for a phone number to call and explain to them why they are retards.
3/6/2007 5:03:20 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!




Anyone who calls the PJ stings entrapment is a closet pedo sympathizer.

"They weren't talking to a real kid so they did nothing wrong."




I presume innocence.

Perverted Justice is out to get folks,  show me a complete trancscript of the chats and I beleive. Otherwise those guys are innocent.

It would be like MADD doing some BS on drunk driving.
3/6/2007 5:04:12 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!


Right....a cop who drives three hours to meet a 13 or 14 year old girl for sex is the victim of entrapment.
3/6/2007 5:05:33 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

I presume innocence.

Perverted Justice is out to get folks,  show me a complete trancscript of the chats and I beleive. Otherwise those guys are innocent.

It would be like MADD doing some BS on drunk driving.


Right, that's why they drive for hours with condoms and booze to hang out with what they thought was a 12 year old girl.

I've dealt with guys who thought they could do it and get away with it a lot, and they all exhibited the same "entrapment" attitude. I wonder if your personal online chat habits might be "interesting?"
3/6/2007 5:05:50 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!


Right....a cop who drives three hours to meet a 13 or 14 year old girl for sex is the victim of entrapment.


Don't tell me they busted a cop trying to boink a kid.
3/6/2007 5:05:50 PM EDT
[#18]
Those evil guns. They corrupt everyone they touch, don't they.
3/6/2007 5:06:19 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!


Right....a cop who drives three hours to meet a 13 or 14 year old girl for sex is the victim of entrapment.


Thats right, did she say she was 18?

Do you know that beyond a reasonable doubt?

Do you know beyond a reasonable doubt Perverted Justice didn't fudge the chat logs?

3/6/2007 5:06:35 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!


Thats not emtrapment.
Simply trying to arrange a "meeting" with an undergae child via computer is a felony.

The guy is a pedo.

They approach the "kid" on the web, not the other way around.

Entrapment my ass.

And that guy was a cop.

3/6/2007 5:06:59 PM EDT
[#21]
[email protected]

That's the best I can find, no number. I'm going to send them an email about the anti-gun BS. I know it will fall on deaf ears, but I have to send something.
3/6/2007 5:07:12 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!


Right....a cop who drives three hours to meet a 13 or 14 year old girl for sex is the victim of entrapment.


Thats right, did she say she was 18?

Do you know that beyond a reasonable doubt?

Do you know beyond a reasonable doubt Perverted Justice didn't fudge the chat logs?






Methinks the lady doth protesteth too much.
3/6/2007 5:08:21 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!


Thats not emtrapment.
Simply trying to arrange a "meeting" with an undergae child via computer is a felony.

The guy is a pedo.

They approach the "kid" on the web, not the other way around.

Entrapment my ass.

And that guy was a cop.



Other than blind faith in NBC and Perverted Justice how do you know those chat logs are real and not doctored?

How do you know she did not say she was 18?

3/6/2007 5:08:37 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!




Anyone who calls the PJ stings entrapment is a closet pedo sympathizer.

"They weren't talking to a real kid so they did nothing wrong."




Haha...better tell our state attorney(s). The shit they (Perverted Justice) pull isn't kosher in many states. In fact, our dept has been warned to stay away from them.
3/6/2007 5:08:42 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
[email protected]

That's the best I can find, no number. I'm going to send them an email about the anti-gun BS. I know it will fall on deaf ears, but I have to send something.


I would leave it alone or we are going to have a headline from NBC that says AR crowd defends pedophile cop.

Leave it be.

We have other fights. Dont associate or give reason for NBC to link this to our stuff.

Just my .02
3/6/2007 5:09:04 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!


Thats not emtrapment.
Simply trying to arrange a "meeting" with an undergae child via computer is a felony.

The guy is a pedo.

They approach the "kid" on the web, not the other way around.

Entrapment my ass.

And that guy was a cop.



If he is and tried to have sex with an underage person, I hope he ends up in the gray bar hotel.
3/6/2007 5:09:09 PM EDT
[#27]
I don't support pedophiles but I think the whole thing about being arrested for chatting with adult posing as a 13 year old is wrong, even if you thought it was a kid.  No victim, no crime.

Also Dateline NBC is full of liberal anti-gun bullshit.
3/6/2007 5:10:00 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!


Right....a cop who drives three hours to meet a 13 or 14 year old girl for sex is the victim of entrapment.


Thats right, did she say she was 18?

Do you know that beyond a reasonable doubt?

Do you know beyond a reasonable doubt Perverted Justice didn't fudge the chat logs?




Think about how unlikely that is. For months they've been doing these stings where literally hundreds of men are caught and admit to the show's host that they knew the girl was underage, and on this particular sting, they conspire to alter the chat logs?
3/6/2007 5:10:36 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!


Thats not emtrapment.
Simply trying to arrange a "meeting" with an undergae child via computer is a felony.

The guy is a pedo.

They approach the "kid" on the web, not the other way around.

Entrapment my ass.

And that guy was a cop.



Other than blind faith in NBC and Perverted Justice how do you know those chat logs are real and not doctored?

How do you know she did not say she was 18?



This is what usually shuts people up, because this is the line of explanation they take after "it was my underage little brother / sister / dog that was saying all of those things and arranging to meet." Here goes:

Copies of the logs are on the servers of the messaging service in question, and will be used as evidence. PJ would not be able to doctor THOSE.

3/6/2007 5:11:55 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!


Thats not emtrapment.
Simply trying to arrange a "meeting" with an undergae child via computer is a felony.

The guy is a pedo.

They approach the "kid" on the web, not the other way around.

Entrapment my ass.

And that guy was a cop.



Other than blind faith in NBC and Perverted Justice how do you know those chat logs are real and not doctored?

How do you know she did not say she was 18?



PJ works directly with LE agencies. All transcripts are recorded.
This is not entrapment.
What they do is put up a profile of a kid.
The pervs come in and try their stuff.(that alone is illegal)

This is not entrapment in any way. You're not getting the law on this one.
Communicating with a minor for the purpose of having sex or sexual contact is a felony.

I cant believe this is being debated.

I really can't.
Nothing against ffsparky... but I can't believe what i am hearing.

These guys get caught commiting a crime.
That is not entrapment.
3/6/2007 5:14:25 PM EDT
[#31]
On the first page I said that we've got pedos among us.

Some of them just are a little touchy on the subject when the fact comes up that they could face jail for dirty chatting up 13 year olds on HotOrNot and Myspace.
3/6/2007 5:16:28 PM EDT
[#32]
What's the actual age of the girl that they use to pose as a minor? Is she 18+?

If so, if a person agrees to meet her to have sex, and *he* turns out to be minor, will the girl herself be arrested?
3/6/2007 5:16:58 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:
[email protected]

That's the best I can find, no number. I'm going to send them an email about the anti-gun BS. I know it will fall on deaf ears, but I have to send something.


I would leave it alone or we are going to have a headline from NBC that says AR crowd defends pedophile cop.

Leave it be.

We have other fights. Dont associate or give reason for NBC to link this to our stuff.

Just my .02


well put
3/6/2007 5:17:34 PM EDT
[#34]
Bama_Shooter..... the guy was a cop in a town called "Floralbama" I think it was.

He drove from there to the east coast of FL to meet this kid.


CultureJammer: You are spot on.... this one is bringing out the defenders of NAMBLA et al.

There is no defense for this type of shit.
I wish they would do these busts all the time.

Each time they do one they get 60 of these pervs in 2 days.

3/6/2007 5:21:30 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!




Anyone who calls the PJ stings entrapment is a closet pedo sympathizer.

"They weren't talking to a real kid so they did nothing wrong."




Haha...better tell our state attorney(s). The shit they (Perverted Justice) pull isn't kosher in many states. In fact, our dept has been warned to stay away from them.


I am sorry guys.

The media is deceptive about the war in Iraq.

The media is deceptive and lies about the economy.

The media is deceptive and biased about the President and the Republican Party.

The media is deceptive and lies about gun control.

The media bends things to fit there agenda on a whole slue of other issues, but on this one we should give them our full trust.

I mean this wasn't Dan Rather reporting.

And look at MADD, no organization with good intentions gets out of hand. I bet the founder of MADD is still on board with that great group of people.
3/6/2007 5:21:57 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
I don't support pedophiles but I think the whole thing about being arrested for chatting with adult posing as a 13 year old is wrong, even if you thought it was a kid.  No victim, no crime.

Also Dateline NBC is full of liberal anti-gun bullshit.


They show up thinking they're going to play naked friend with a kid. Fuck those people.
It goes to intent. The only other option is to arrest them after the take advantage of some kid. Not a good option at all.
3/6/2007 5:24:14 PM EDT
[#37]
Edit, it's a good idea so I'm not gonna spoil it.
3/6/2007 5:26:43 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!




Anyone who calls the PJ stings entrapment is a closet pedo sympathizer.

"They weren't talking to a real kid so they did nothing wrong."



Well, you're right, they aren't really entrapment.  Nobody is forcing them to do anything.

Overall I think it's a cute idea and as long as they only target people I don't like in society then I am all for it.  Otherwise I wouldn't be too thrilled with the whole Capt. America we're-on-a-mission-from-God shtick, what they do is not appropriate in a legal sense, but it is mighty entertaining.

Which, don't forget, is the point.  They wouldn't do it if it were boring.
3/6/2007 5:27:10 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
Bama_Shooter..... the guy was a cop in a town called "Floralbama" I think it was.

He drove from there to the east coast of FL to meet this kid.


CultureJammer: You are spot on.... this one is bringing out the defenders of NAMBLA et al.

There is no defense for this type of shit.
I wish they would do these busts all the time.

Each time they do one they get 60 of these pervs in 2 days.



I think it's a repeat then.

I have not seen it myself.

Still I think we have some potential kiddie fuckers here.
3/6/2007 5:27:26 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!




Anyone who calls the PJ stings entrapment is a closet pedo sympathizer.

"They weren't talking to a real kid so they did nothing wrong."




Haha...better tell our state attorney(s). The shit they (Perverted Justice) pull isn't kosher in many states. In fact, our dept has been warned to stay away from them.


I am sorry guys.

The media is deceptive about the war in Iraq.

The media is deceptive and lies about the economy.

The media is deceptive and biased about the President and the Republican Party.

The media is deceptive and lies about gun control.

The media bends things to fit there agenda on a whole slue of other issues, but on this one we should give them our full trust.

I mean this wasn't Dan Rather reporting.

And look at MADD, no organization with good intentions gets out of hand. I bet the founder of MADD is still on board with that great group of people.




Edit: If your dept says stay away fine... how many Pedos has your dept. caught?
Drop the donuts and get the kiddie molesters.

Dateline does not conduct the operation.They only record it etc. PJ does with the backing of whatever LE agency they are partnered with.
If you live in a state that does not like PJ, elect new officials.
If you live in a state that doesn't have Jessicas Law, elect new officials.
If you live in a state with both of these..... I pray for your kids.

PJ does a great job, they have caught a ton of these pervs.
It is not a media or NBC operation.

This is the only that NBC does that I think is worthwhile.

God bless them for doing this, it raises more money for PJ which in turn means they can do more ops. Which means fewer of the pedos on the street.

If your state atty doesn't like it... who is he protecting? Your kids? Nope.

The pedos?....yep.

3/6/2007 5:28:57 PM EDT
[#41]
Some pedos are very rich. You think they haven't lobbied against this shit in backrooms?
3/6/2007 5:31:41 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:
Some pedos are very rich. You think they haven't lobbied against this shit in backrooms?


They lobby in Congress etc! Not in back rooms.
The ACLU defends NAMBLA.

Google "NAMBLA"

Seriously, they aren't hiding, these people are lobbying publicly.

Google it.

3/6/2007 5:32:30 PM EDT
[#43]
Lock them up, castrate and lobotomize them.   They cannot be rehabilitated.

We used to find all kinds of sick stuff in their cells.  Stuff like clippings from the Sunday paper Sears and Walmart ads.  They would cut out the pics of the kids in underwear and swimsuits, and use toothpaste to glue them to notepad backings.

Sick motherfornicators.
3/6/2007 5:33:04 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!




Anyone who calls the PJ stings entrapment is a closet pedo sympathizer.

"They weren't talking to a real kid so they did nothing wrong."




Haha...better tell our state attorney(s). The shit they (Perverted Justice) pull isn't kosher in many states. In fact, our dept has been warned to stay away from them.


I am sorry guys.

The media is deceptive about the war in Iraq.

The media is deceptive and lies about the economy.

The media is deceptive and biased about the President and the Republican Party.

The media is deceptive and lies about gun control.

The media bends things to fit there agenda on a whole slue of other issues, but on this one we should give them our full trust.

I mean this wasn't Dan Rather reporting.

And look at MADD, no organization with good intentions gets out of hand. I bet the founder of MADD is still on board with that great group of people.



Dateline does not conduct the operation. PJ does with the backing of whatever LE agency they are partnered with.
If you live in a state that does not like PJ, elect new officials.
If you live in a state that doesn't have Jessicas Law, elect new officials.
If you live in a state with both of these..... I pray for your kids.

PJ does a great job, they have caught a ton of these pervs.
It is not a media or NBC operation.

This is the only that NBC does that I think is worthwhile.

God bless them for doing this, it raises more money for PJ which in turn means they can do more ops. Which means fewer of the pedos on the street.

If your state atty doesn't like it... who is he protecting? Your kids? Nope.

The pedos?....yep.




Are you a cop and if so how long?

Ever notice how PJ partners with agencies in the Carolinas and similar? Do all pervs live in the South or is it that some southern states write their laws in pencil.

How many federal cases have been made based solely on PJ contacts? My understanding is the feds are staying away also.

PJ is fighting a noble cause but to them the end justifies the means. Constitution and rules of evidence be damned.
3/6/2007 5:33:37 PM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:


Dateline does not conduct the operation.They only record it etc. PJ does with the backing of whatever LE agency they are partnered with.


Yes Dateline does "conduct" the operation.  They pay PJ to go after these guys.  The Po Po is along for the ride.
3/6/2007 5:34:32 PM EDT
[#46]
What they need is a special built house-one with a trapdoor that drops you into a pool of hungry alligators.

Cool to watch and quick justice.I think there are a hell of a lot of freaks out there.And they all aint out there.
3/6/2007 5:36:22 PM EDT
[#47]
What is his arfcom screen name
3/6/2007 5:36:36 PM EDT
[#48]
Radar’s John Cook has written an intriguing profile of Perverted Justice and its relationship with NBC News with the popular Dateline “To Catch a Predator” specials. “NBC is paying the group between $100,000 and $150,000 per show,” writes Cook, who attributes the information to one current NBC News staffer and one former NBC official. Cook goes on to report that the deal was negotiated by the network’s entertainment lawyers, and Perverted Justice is entitled to a portion of revenue from any subsequent DVD sales.

Article
3/6/2007 5:40:58 PM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Entrapment plus anti-gun BS. Yeah!!!!




Anyone who calls the PJ stings entrapment is a closet pedo sympathizer.

"They weren't talking to a real kid so they did nothing wrong."




Haha...better tell our state attorney(s). The shit they (Perverted Justice) pull isn't kosher in many states. In fact, our dept has been warned to stay away from them.


I am sorry guys.

The media is deceptive about the war in Iraq.

The media is deceptive and lies about the economy.

The media is deceptive and biased about the President and the Republican Party.

The media is deceptive and lies about gun control.

The media bends things to fit there agenda on a whole slue of other issues, but on this one we should give them our full trust.

I mean this wasn't Dan Rather reporting.

And look at MADD, no organization with good intentions gets out of hand. I bet the founder of MADD is still on board with that great group of people.



Dateline does not conduct the operation. PJ does with the backing of whatever LE agency they are partnered with.
If you live in a state that does not like PJ, elect new officials.
If you live in a state that doesn't have Jessicas Law, elect new officials.
If you live in a state with both of these..... I pray for your kids.

PJ does a great job, they have caught a ton of these pervs.
It is not a media or NBC operation.

This is the only that NBC does that I think is worthwhile.

God bless them for doing this, it raises more money for PJ which in turn means they can do more ops. Which means fewer of the pedos on the street.

If your state atty doesn't like it... who is he protecting? Your kids? Nope.

The pedos?....yep.




Are you a cop and if so how long?

Ever notice how PJ partners with agencies in the Carolinas and similar? Do all pervs live in the South or is it that some southern states write their laws in pencil.

How many federal cases have been made based solely on PJ contacts? My understanding is the feds are staying away also.

PJ is fighting a noble cause but to them the end justifies the means. Constitution and rules of evidence be damned.


No not a cop and I wasn't going after you personally with the donut crack.

PJ has done shows in MN, GA, all over, not just the south.

But my question is still on the table...

What is your dept doing to catch them? (besides waiting for a complaining witness)?

How many have you gotten off the street?

It isnt a shot at you or your dept.

It's a shot at the apathy of a system that lets these fuckers walk everywhere.

Vermont turns them loose with probation.

Again... not a shot at you personally. More of a shot at LE agaencies or the system as a whole.

How many kids do we need to lose?

3/6/2007 5:41:22 PM EDT
[#50]
I don't see how anybody can defend people who want to screw kids.


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