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Posted: 6/16/2018 12:34:35 PM EDT

You are comparing apples to oranges.

I deal with enough of it on the car forums.

3.5 EcoBoost vs 5.0!!!!!!!!111

No, just no, stop it

Put two turbos on a 5.0 and then get back to me when comparing it to a 3.5 EcoBoost

Eta, It's like a 9 vs 45 debate but worse

Eta2, I guess it's fine to compare them, just tired of it, it's like an oil debate, or crab vs efi, it gets nowhere.

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:35:08 PM EDT

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no...

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:35:48 PM EDT

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There is no replacement for displacement.

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:36:11 PM EDT

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So what you're saying is there's no replacement for displacement?

Eta beat!!

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:37:15 PM EDT

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Putting 2 turbos on a 5.0 costs how much? Now YOU are comparing apples to oranges.

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:37:23 PM EDT

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Stop comparing two power options for the same vehicle?

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:37:58 PM EDT

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They are both options in the same truck. The F150 is the F150, you have two choices of engines when you buy that truck.

What makes that a difficult comparison? It's the most obvious comparison in the automotive world.

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:38:14 PM EDT

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There's no displacement for replacement!!!!!111111!1!+

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:38:24 PM EDT

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I type slow.

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:38:58 PM EDT

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There is no replacement for displacement.

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Tell that to all the LS vehicles I smashed in my little 1.3 liter.

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:40:53 PM EDT

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So..... I'm looking at 2018 f150 should i get the coyote or ecoboost

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:41:47 PM EDT

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YOU ARE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!!!

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:42:27 PM EDT

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NEVER GIVE UP - 3000hp Twin Turbo Mustang comeback(original footage)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oebpmYmN004

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:42:41 PM EDT

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They are both options in the same truck. The F150 is the F150, you have two choices of engines when you buy that truck.

What makes that a difficult comparison? It's the most obvious comparison in the automotive world.

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I'm talking about the specifics of engine design, screw the platform comparison for the moment.

Eta, fair enough I guess, perhaps I'm just tired of seeing the comparison

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:43:30 PM EDT

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It's the .45 vs. 9mm debate all over again... "Buuuuuut 9mm with quality JHP expands to more than .45 FMJ..."

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:43:46 PM EDT

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Why not? Don't you want people to know the difference?

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:43:52 PM EDT

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Somebody mentioned turbos?

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:44:12 PM EDT

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Every 14.7psi of boost roughly doubles the displacement of the engine

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:44:38 PM EDT

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YOU ARE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!!!

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The fuck I ain't!

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:45:04 PM EDT

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Exactly

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:46:48 PM EDT

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Tell that to all the LS vehicles I smashed in my little 1.3 liter.

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The LS cars are still on the road.

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:46:51 PM EDT

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I'm talking about the specifics of engine design, screw the platform comparison for the moment.

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That's the entire purpose for the motor. To be functional in a platform. Why would you compare a diesel electric train engine to the ecoboost? They are completely separate platforms and purposes.

the purpose of the Ecoboost and the 5.0 are the same. To provide function and performance in the F150. So, you should compare the two motors to know which one does the job 'best' for the platform.

Same with the mustang and anywhere else they are a valid comparison.

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:47:36 PM EDT

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The LS cars are still on the road.

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Posted: 6/16/2018 12:47:48 PM EDT

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I will when you start using fender covers.

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:48:02 PM EDT

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The LS cars are still on the road.

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So are 1.3s

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:48:08 PM EDT

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They are both options in the same truck. The F150 is the F150, you have two choices of engines when you buy that truck.

What makes that a difficult comparison? It's the most obvious comparison in the automotive world.

I'm talking about the specifics of engine design, screw the platform comparison for the moment.

That makes your argument even more retarded

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:48:55 PM EDT

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That's the entire purpose for the motor. To be functional in a platform. Why would you compare a diesel electric train engine to the ecoboost? They are completely separate platforms and purposes.

the purpose of the Ecoboost and the 5.0 are the same. To provide function and performance in the F150. So, you should compare the two motors to know which one does the job 'best' for the platform.

Same with the mustang and anywhere else they are a valid comparison.

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Ehh fair enough I guess

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:50:17 PM EDT

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You are comparing apples to oranges.

I deal with enough of it on the car forums.

3.5 EcoBoost vs 5.0!!!!!!!!111

No, just no, stop it

Put two turbos on a 5.0 and then get back to me when comparing it to a 3.5 EcoBoost

Eta, It's like a 9 vs 45 debate but worse

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FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPWYcjypSWo

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:50:40 PM EDT

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Really?

Like on a P-51?

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:51:19 PM EDT

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So, what about a supercharged engine? Apples to oranges to Pineapples?
Trying to find the lower manifold to drop a Roots on the 390 in my 1975 F250 Crewcab.

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:52:14 PM EDT

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How about when discussing resale.

My buddy sold his ecoboobs mustang and took a fucking bath on it.

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:52:44 PM EDT

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I find them to be more like peaches

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:54:01 PM EDT

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So if we take the turbos off, is that like a peeled and sliced apple? What does the apple core translate to? this shit is getting complicated.

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:54:02 PM EDT

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Well, there is that, I guess.... Time to sell the Jag,,,

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:54:09 PM EDT

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Really?

Like on a P-51?

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Much like the 1911, the Merlin was a perfect symphony of awesome... nothing can be wrong with something that sounds like that..

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:54:41 PM EDT

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You are comparing apples to oranges.

I deal with enough of it on the car forums.

3.5 EcoBoost vs 5.0!!!!!!!!111

No, just no, stop it

Put two turbos on a 5.0 and then get back to me when comparing it to a 3.5 EcoBoost

Eta, It's like a 9 vs 45 debate but worse

Eta2, I guess it's fine to compare them, just tired of it, it's like an oil debate, it gets nowhere.

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Until you've spent 20k plus everything you do to the 5.0 will also keep the 3.5 ahead of it. It's only after large sums of money that cubes win.

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:54:47 PM EDT

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I find them to be more like peaches

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Does that supercharger look fuzzy to you? Definitely nectarine.

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:56:44 PM EDT

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So if we take the turbos off, is that like a peeled and sliced apple? What does the apple core translate to? this shit is getting complicated.

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Exactly

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:58:22 PM EDT

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Does that supercharger look fuzzy to you? Definitely nectarine.

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No it just makes me feel warm fuzzy and sweet

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:58:39 PM EDT

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Pony, horse - whatever - they're just equines to me.

A.W.D.

Posted: 6/16/2018 12:59:26 PM EDT

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Please stop asking people to discuss stuff on a discussion forum.

Posted: 6/16/2018 1:00:16 PM EDT

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Posted: 6/16/2018 1:03:16 PM EDT

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No it just makes me feel warm fuzzy and sweet

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Posted: 6/16/2018 1:04:45 PM EDT

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The LS cars are still on the road.

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So is mine but owned by someone else and is now currently a twin turbo ls3 putting down 800hp

and for the record my FD was a beast of unknown magnitude for an RX7. I don't know how I never killed it but it kept going no matter how many drift events or races I did in the car. Granted it wasn't stock so it was a lot more reliable than than the factory motor. 3mm HD apex seals are a must.