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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:33:50 PM EDT
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I thought Matt Bracken was some kind of respectable guy. This sounds like Infowars crap. "WACO PD have not been very friendly towards bikers and the FEDS TOTALLY despise Bikers! Why? Because we are not afraid of them or their agenda! We are a threat to them! Remember folks we were able to organize in 24 days 800,000 -1.2 million bikers to DC! We did it WITHOUT their permission or support! They even SHUT DOWN the traffic cams…had the news NOT flown over the scene there would have been NO proof that we rode! Yes, folks, like it or not even 1%’s rode with us! They set aside their territories and rode peacefully! JUST like they do at ALL COC meetings! Bikers stand up to them, to their Christian hate, their muslim agenda and whatever else they want to throw at us! BIKERS ARE PRESENTLY THE BACKBONE of PATRIOT AMERICA! WHAT BETTER WAY TO BRING THEM DOWN THAN WITH BAD PRESS SUCH AS THIS!" |
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I thought Matt Bracken was some kind of respectable guy. This sounds like Infowars crap. "WACO PD have not been very friendly towards bikers and the FEDS TOTALLY despise Bikers! Why? Because we are not afraid of them or their agenda! We are a threat to them! Remember folks we were able to organize in 24 days 800,000 -1.2 million bikers to DC! We did it WITHOUT their permission or support! They even SHUT DOWN the traffic cams…had the news NOT flown over the scene there would have been NO proof that we rode! Yes, folks, like it or not even 1%’s rode with us! They set aside their territories and rode peacefully! JUST like they do at ALL COC meetings!
Bikers stand up to them, to their Christian hate, their muslim agenda and whatever else they want to throw at us! BIKERS ARE PRESENTLY THE BACKBONE of PATRIOT AMERICA! WHAT BETTER WAY TO BRING THEM DOWN THAN WITH BAD PRESS SUCH AS THIS!" Wow! |
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Quoted: Funny...I've ridden for years (almost half a century in total) and have been "come after" exactly twice...for loud pipes, and riding a passenger on my first street bike while having a learner's permit. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Well, clearly you're some sort of Illuminati funded snitch. |
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I just want to say I am really surprised at some of the public comments the Waco PD talking head has made about the bikers, the clubs, Twin Peaks, etc.
It does seem like they have some kind of agenda. I also find it very odd that all they mention is negative stuff about outlaw biker gangs but nothing is said about the other clubs that were there, the ministry club, the veteran club and the rest of the groups not involved in the little squabble. |
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Does Matt Bracken write for that blog or something? Because Im only seeing him in the comments section:
"It sounds like it’s right out of British General Frank Kitson’s “Gangs and Counter-gangs” manual. He developed the technique as a young British officer during the Mau-Mau War in Kenya. You have your own side dress up like the enemy and perpetrate atrocities against rival enemy gangs so that they will turn on one another. It’s false-flag stuff all the way. Kitson was the first commanding general during the British occupation of Northern Ireland. The false-flag “counter gangs” method that worked well in Kenya was a total disaster in Ireland, and led to 20 years of civil war. No matter what else happened in Waco, the ATF (running the show with their lap-poodles in the Waco PD) has declared war on all one-percenters. This will not end with the Waco Massacre, any more than false-flag “counter-gang” operations in Northern Ireland ended the conflict there. Kitson’s false-flag ops in Northern Ireland just poured gasoline on a small brush fire. The outlaw bikers will never forget this ambush massacre (as they will regard it forever)." The best I can tell the original post is written by Will Grigg? |
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I just want to say I am really surprised at some of the public comments the Waco PD talking head has made about the bikers, the clubs, Twin Peaks, etc. It does seem like they have some kind of agenda. I also find it very odd that all they mention is negative stuff about outlaw biker gangs but nothing is said about the other clubs that were there, the ministry club, the veteran club and the rest of the groups not involved in the little squabble. +1 Less than a dozen dead, and how many arrested? Charged with a serious crime, while really guilty of nothing more than wearing a black leather jacket with a denim vest. Now, illegal type people need to be charged, hopefully convicted, and sent to their appropriate punishments. I do agree with that. But, if we look at them as "illegal bikers", soon any one who rides a motorcycle will be considered an outlaw. Strangely enough, our gov't actually licenses motorcycles to ride on the streets. Am I the only one who sees a problem here? |
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Hmmmm is right.  I must be missing something. The thread title leads readers to believe that Matt Bracken wrote the piece, but that's not the case. Unless of course, I'm missing something? |
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He does bring up some interesting points about how there has been no word on who shot who-normally, I'd expect to hear at least some cliff notes in the media about why police started shooting. Especially given that snipers were involved, you would think that they would be able to articulate why they had to shoot.
The bit about people being held on one million dollar bonds but not being charged was interesting too. |
| It makes me think "what if", this along with what the .gov & .mil has planned soon in Texas makes me wonder if we aren't ripe for the wholesale disarmament of civilians in Texas. Everyone knows if Texas falls only a handful of states (if any) will muster for retaliation. How many Americans will honestly risk their lives and their families just to keep their guns? Yep, my tinfoil ain't wrapped tight enough. |
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Quoted: Does Matt Bracken write for that blog or something? Because Im only seeing him in the comments section: "It sounds like it’s right out of British General Frank Kitson’s "Gangs and Counter-gangs” manual. He developed the technique as a young British officer during the Mau-Mau War in Kenya. You have your own side dress up like the enemy and perpetrate atrocities against rival enemy gangs so that they will turn on one another. It’s false-flag stuff all the way. Kitson was the first commanding general during the British occupation of Northern Ireland. The false-flag "counter gangs” method that worked well in Kenya was a total disaster in Ireland, and led to 20 years of civil war. No matter what else happened in Waco, the ATF (running the show with their lap-poodles in the Waco PD) has declared war on all one-percenters. This will not end with the Waco Massacre, any more than false-flag "counter-gang” operations in Northern Ireland ended the conflict there. Kitson’s false-flag ops in Northern Ireland just poured gasoline on a small brush fire. The outlaw bikers will never forget this ambush massacre (as they will regard it forever)." The best I can tell the original post is written by Will Grigg? https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/false-flags-biker-gangs-and-the-patcon-legacy/ |
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In this day and age, you have to be wearing tinfoil to believe that there are NO nefarious plans afoot. "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."- Former Obama Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel |
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It makes me think "what if", this along with what the .gov & .mil has planned soon in Texas makes me wonder if we aren't ripe for the wholesale disarmament of civilians in Texas. Everyone knows if Texas falls only a handful of states (if any) will muster for retaliation. How many Americans will honestly risk their lives and their families just to keep their guns? Yep, my tinfoil ain't wrapped tight enough. Lol |
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Quoted: Yes, it was written by William Norman Grigg. https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/false-flags-biker-gangs-and-the-patcon-legacy/ Quoted: Quoted: Does Matt Bracken write for that blog or something? Because Im only seeing him in the comments section: "It sounds like it’s right out of British General Frank Kitson’s "Gangs and Counter-gangs” manual. He developed the technique as a young British officer during the Mau-Mau War in Kenya. You have your own side dress up like the enemy and perpetrate atrocities against rival enemy gangs so that they will turn on one another. It’s false-flag stuff all the way. Kitson was the first commanding general during the British occupation of Northern Ireland. The false-flag "counter gangs” method that worked well in Kenya was a total disaster in Ireland, and led to 20 years of civil war. No matter what else happened in Waco, the ATF (running the show with their lap-poodles in the Waco PD) has declared war on all one-percenters. This will not end with the Waco Massacre, any more than false-flag "counter-gang” operations in Northern Ireland ended the conflict there. Kitson’s false-flag ops in Northern Ireland just poured gasoline on a small brush fire. The outlaw bikers will never forget this ambush massacre (as they will regard it forever)." The best I can tell the original post is written by Will Grigg? https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/false-flags-biker-gangs-and-the-patcon-legacy/ But if it was tweeted by Bracken, it stands to reason he agrees with it, or at least some of it. I guess when you've been making money off "SHTF" for the last ______ years, you gotta keep people amped up, even if it means linking to total jibberish. This isn't to say I don't think this country doesn't have turbulent days ahead. I just don't think the Feds give two craps about bikers. |
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Quoted: Funny...I've ridden for years (almost half a century in total) and have been "come after" exactly twice...for loud pipes, and riding a passenger on my first street bike while having a learner's permit. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Maybe if you were at that meeting you would be singing a different tune. |
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I just want to say I am really surprised at some of the public comments the Waco PD talking head has made about the bikers, the clubs, Twin Peaks, etc. It does seem like they have some kind of agenda. I also got the strange impression that the Waco PD guy was reading from a prewritten "choir book" 
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Maybe if you were at that meeting you would be singing a different tune. Quoted:
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Funny...I've ridden for years (almost half a century in total) and have been "come after" exactly twice...for loud pipes, and riding a passenger on my first street bike while having a learner's permit. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Maybe if you were at that meeting you would be singing a different tune. Avoiding "those meetings" is precisely why I don't sing that tune. Funny how it works. |
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Sorry fellers, trust your insights or Brackens. I'll go with Brackens. dude is legit. What are Matt Bracken's qualifications that we should trust his insight? He lives on a boat, which is like a basement on the water, and he writes 50 Shades of Gray for the GD crowd... I guess that counts. |
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Sorry fellers, trust your insights or Brackens. I'll go with Brackens. dude is legit. What are Matt Bracken's qualifications that we should trust his insight? Didnt mention any we. Said I. |
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Avoiding "those meetings" is precisely why I don't sing that tune.
Funny how it works. I seem to remember something about the right of the people to peaceably assemble? Funny how that works too. Looking at the pictures, there was a craft, or art/fabrics shop nearby. A place my mother would like to visit, if she were alive. If my sister had survived, yes, shse would have enjoyed it. Hell!, I might have been in an art & crafts shop, I invested in one once. Seriously, in a modern world, how do you avoid these things? |
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Quoted: He lives on a boat, which is like a basement on the water, and he writes 50 Shades of Gray for the GD crowd... I guess that counts. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sorry fellers, trust your insights or Brackens. I'll go with Brackens. dude is legit. What are Matt Bracken's qualifications that we should trust his insight? He lives on a boat, which is like a basement on the water, and he writes 50 Shades of Gray for the GD crowd... I guess that counts.  |
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This site is fucking bipolar Defending shit bag bikers who kill and sell drugs This isn't the fucking peace corps But they do toy drives, and help little old ladies across the street, and stand up to 'The Man'. Let go of your hate and embrace the biker love. It's for the children. |
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If it had been Crip and Blood sets, how many of the people defending the bikers would be advocating calling in an airstrike? All of them Why were the police staking this place out besides to get in a shoot out? I have not been keeping up with it. Are these guys all known drug dealers or is that just some kind of assumed thing? |
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Why were the police staking this place out besides to get in a shoot out? I have not been keeping up with it. Are these guys all known drug dealers or is that just some kind of assumed thing? Quoted:
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If it had been Crip and Blood sets, how many of the people defending the bikers would be advocating calling in an airstrike? All of them Why were the police staking this place out besides to get in a shoot out? I have not been keeping up with it. Are these guys all known drug dealers or is that just some kind of assumed thing? Nope clearly 88er meth peddling murderers the lot of them. |
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So I am not supposed to feel sorry for one guy because he is a thug, but I am supposed to feel bad because these were just some good ol' boys having an old fashion knife fight before the police started shooting?
Give me a fucking break. While not all bikers are in gangs, there are bikers in gangs dealing in drugs and all other sorts of shit. They aren't nice people fighting the man, they are thugs and criminals. Fuck them. |
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Nope clearly 88er meth peddling murderers the lot of them. Quoted:
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If it had been Crip and Blood sets, how many of the people defending the bikers would be advocating calling in an airstrike? All of them Why were the police staking this place out besides to get in a shoot out? I have not been keeping up with it. Are these guys all known drug dealers or is that just some kind of assumed thing? Nope clearly 88er meth peddling murderers the lot of them. Yes, OMC's are pretty much known exclusively for peddling and using meth. |
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Yes, OMC's are pretty much known exclusively for peddling and using meth. Yup. As I said. Evil meth peddlers communing in public places to have meth orgies. That is what all meth heads are known for. communing openly in public places in large groups to buy and sell meth, |
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How much Meth was recovered from the scene? they probably used all the meth before the murder. Cant have a good murderfest without meth. Everyone know that tweakers love to congrigate in big crowds in open areas, do meth and murder. Atleast the hard core 88er bike riding meth heads do. |