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2/5/2013 3:18:56 PM EDT
had about a dozen pmags break last week on a cold morning when being dropped free from a gun on to concrete (two were on hard packed ground that is as hard as concrete)...(feed lips snapping off)

not sure of what generation they are...(is there an easy way to tell?)


was this a big problem in the past (or currently)


update...most likely chemical or solvent exposure with cold weather not helping..

update II: unknown cause

I do not want anyone to take this as a slight against what I still believe to be a great product.....
2/5/2013 3:19:49 PM EDT
[#1]
Unpossible.  

Pmags are tier 1.
2/5/2013 3:20:24 PM EDT
[#2]
Pmags so strong they can survive a nuke.
2/5/2013 3:20:41 PM EDT
[#3]
I'd ask here



http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_2/124_Magpul.html
2/5/2013 3:21:46 PM EDT
[#4]
Pics?

Were they loaded? I bet Magpul would like to take a a look at them.
2/5/2013 3:21:51 PM EDT
[#5]


I was always curious if that could happen to them in the extreme cold. Makes sense
2/5/2013 3:21:54 PM EDT
[#6]
After the 2nd broke you thought it was a good idea to drop another 10?
2/5/2013 3:22:35 PM EDT
[#7]




At $40 a pop some newb in North Dakota is gonna be disappoint.


 
2/5/2013 3:22:48 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
After the 2nd broke you thought it was a good idea to drop another 10?



I have a few I'd sell you to see how they would handle your drop test.

2/5/2013 3:22:49 PM EDT
[#9]
Glad I invested 0 dollars in PMags. USGI for the win.
2/5/2013 3:22:54 PM EDT
[#10]



Quoted:


After the 2nd broke you thought it was a good idea to drop another 10?


Isolated incident...shit
Isolated incident...shit
Isolated incident...shit
Isolated incident...shit
Isolated incident...shit
Isolated incident...shit
Isolated incident...shit




 
2/5/2013 3:23:25 PM EDT
[#11]
Sell them as War Trophies on GB for $50 a pop.
2/5/2013 3:23:27 PM EDT
[#12]
My mags were out in -55F wind chill not long ago. I didn't drop them on concrete but they didn't seem to get brittle. They certainly didn't break.
2/5/2013 3:23:42 PM EDT
[#13]
I remember some guys in AK doing some tests in extreme cold when they first came out.  As I recall they did fine.  Were the mags loaded?  What was the temperature?  

I'd email Magpul about it.
2/5/2013 3:23:54 PM EDT
[#14]
What, no pics?
 
2/5/2013 3:24:06 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:

Quoted:
After the 2nd broke you thought it was a good idea to drop another 10?

Isolated incident...shit





Isolated incident...shit




Isolated incident...shit




Isolated incident...shit



Isolated incident...shit



Isolated incident...shit



Isolated incident...shit





 


2/5/2013 3:25:42 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Pics?

Were they loaded? I bet Magpul would like to take a a look at them.


some were loaded some were empty...

2/5/2013 3:25:44 PM EDT
[#17]
I don't have any trouble with mine in Montana winters.  I suggest a call to Magpul.
2/5/2013 3:26:46 PM EDT
[#18]
Lots of questions

temp?
loaded?
20 or 30 rounders?
height dropped from?

I hunt yotes with mine in 20 degrees never had a problem.

email magpul for sure
2/5/2013 3:27:07 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
After the 2nd broke you thought it was a good idea to drop another 10?


this is taking place at training facility multiple shooters
2/5/2013 3:27:33 PM EDT
[#20]
Weird...I have shot with them down to -40 coyote hunting, and never had a problem.



You should call Magpul.
2/5/2013 3:27:55 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
I don't have any trouble with mine in Montana winters.  I suggest a call to Magpul.


I was out early last week when it was -8 and I didn't experience any problems. I would definitely get a hold of a Magpul rep.
2/5/2013 3:28:01 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
I remember some guys in AK doing some tests in extreme cold when they first came out.  As I recall they did fine.  Were the mags loaded?  What was the temperature?  

I'd email Magpul about it.


thats what I thought


I just exchanged them out for metal mags and sent them on their way
2/5/2013 3:28:50 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
What, no pics?  


no cameras allowed on my site and these mags are not mine to take home ( I will ask my boss)

just think of one side of a feed lip breaking off
2/5/2013 3:29:03 PM EDT
[#24]
I guess you don't have pics?

ETA: answered
2/5/2013 3:29:32 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Lots of questions

temp?
loaded?
20 or 30 rounders?
height dropped from?

I hunt yotes with mine in 20 degrees never had a problem.

email magpul for sure


30 rounders FDE some loaded some empty temp between 20-30F
2/5/2013 3:29:57 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
I guess you don't have pics?


read the post above yours..
2/5/2013 3:31:02 PM EDT
[#27]
There is a Date Code on them. Very small.
You will have to look & tell us.
I would contact the PMag, & get a Return Authorization # & have them look at them?
2/5/2013 3:31:39 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Lots of questions

temp?
loaded?
20 or 30 rounders?
height dropped from?

I hunt yotes with mine in 20 degrees never had a problem.

email magpul for sure


30 rounders FDE some loaded some empty temp between 20-30F


All FDE?
2/5/2013 3:32:43 PM EDT
[#29]
I wouldnt have a clue as I would think only a dumbass would drop a dozen of them to find out if they would all do that. Keep up your interesting scientific study.
2/5/2013 3:32:48 PM EDT
[#30]
Heard of a guy who was peeing during deer season up in the UP and his pecker got brittle and fell off. So I guess if you get anything cold enough it will break.
2/5/2013 3:32:56 PM EDT
[#31]
I am curious to know the born on date on them.  It should have a little clock dial with the year and month that they were made.  Forgot if it is on the left or right side of the mag.

 
2/5/2013 3:33:18 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
had about a dozen pmags break last week on a cold morning when being dropped free from a gun on to concrete (two were on hard packed ground that is as hard as concrete)...(feed lips snapping off)

not sure of what generation they are...(is there an easy way to tell?)


was this a big problem in the past (or currently)


nm
2/5/2013 3:33:30 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Quoted:
After the 2nd broke you thought it was a good idea to drop another 10?

Isolated incident...shit





Isolated incident...shit




Isolated incident...shit




Isolated incident...shit



Isolated incident...shit



Isolated incident...shit



Isolated incident...shit





 




Like i said, damn/
2/5/2013 3:34:32 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
had about a dozen pmags break last week on a cold morning when being dropped free from a gun on to concrete (two were on hard packed ground that is as hard as concrete)...(feed lips snapping off)

not sure of what generation they are...(is there an easy way to tell?)


was this a big problem in the past (or currently)


Polymer tends to get very brittle in subzero weather.
2/5/2013 3:34:53 PM EDT
[#35]
Last time we qualified it was -30 with wind chill. My mags didn't break.
2/5/2013 3:35:46 PM EDT
[#36]
Pics or B.S!
2/5/2013 3:36:09 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Lots of questions

temp?
loaded?
20 or 30 rounders?
height dropped from?

I hunt yotes with mine in 20 degrees never had a problem.

email magpul for sure


30 rounders FDE some loaded some empty temp between 20-30F


All FDE?


yes sir
2/5/2013 3:37:16 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
I wouldnt have a clue as I would think only a dumbass would drop a dozen of them to find out if they would all do that. Keep up your interesting scientific study.


MORE THEN ONE PERSON AT A TRAINING FACILITY OF THE CORSE OF ABOUT 2-3 HOURS but thanks for calling me a dumbass
2/5/2013 3:37:35 PM EDT
[#39]
This is why I run the Mako Group steel mags.
2/5/2013 3:38:09 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
I am curious to know the born on date on them.  It should have a little clock dial with the year and month that they were made.  Forgot if it is on the left or right side of the mag.  


this is what I wanted to know because these might be years old...gen 1 mags
2/5/2013 3:38:48 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Glad I invested 0 dollars in PMags. USGI for the win.


Me too.
Not that I don't like them. Just never had a desire to get any.
2/5/2013 3:39:06 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Pics or B.S!


I use Pmags...I love P mags..I have never had problems with mine...why would I lie?

I will continue to use my pmags...
2/5/2013 3:39:59 PM EDT
[#43]
Edit, found the link
2/5/2013 3:40:35 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Pics or B.S!


I use Pmags...I love P mags..I have never had problems with mine...why would I lie?

I will continue to use my pmags...


I didn't read all the way to see that you couldn't take pics.
2/5/2013 3:42:09 PM EDT
[#45]
Glad I run Lancer...oh wait......well....

Hrmm....

Maybe I should freeze ten, then drop them all if the first one breaks.





Technically if the plastic breaks the metal feed lips should still be intact...
2/5/2013 3:42:39 PM EDT
[#46]
I don't drop my mags, so I guess I'll never know..
2/5/2013 3:42:52 PM EDT
[#47]
You can *try* to email Magpul about it. But about now I'm not sure you're going to get a quick response.
2/5/2013 3:43:10 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
I remember some guys in AK doing some tests in extreme cold when they first came out.  As I recall they did fine.  Were the mags loaded?  What was the temperature?  

I'd email Magpul about it.


I was one of them... Dropped them on pavement at -30 below and nothing happened to them... Gen 1 and Rev M windowed... I did have one split down the back but I threw it down on the pavement as hard as I could loaded... Ammo went everywhere!

- Clint
2/5/2013 3:43:29 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
I left one outside, fully loaded an sub -40F temps
I then proceeded to drop it on to concrete at varying angles to see what would happen
It took multiple drops at a heights of about 6 feet for me to get one to break.

The fact that you broke a dozen

And FWIW, despite me being entirely upfront about how it broke, Magpul offered to replace it without issue


I did not break a single one....I just work here...

Reading who is it for...Mericans
2/5/2013 3:44:12 PM EDT
[#50]
Pmags suck, always have always will. Magpul has made alot of thing better but mags ain't one of them...
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