Posted: 3/8/2012 6:56:43 PM EDT
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I have a nearly 7 month old dachshund. he is a male and neutered. he has a bad habit of taking a nice harty shit in his crate when we leave him there, it could be a long time or a short time he might have eaten and already pooped but we come home to find him laying in his own shit. I'm getting sick of this almost so much that the only thing i can think of doing is right on the verge of neglecting him. by just leaving him to sit in his own poop. i know this probably wont fix the problem. when we are home he goes out about every 2 hours to do number one and usually an hour after he eats for number 2. the strange thing is its usually only poop in his crate not pee.
So arfcom help me out. what can i do and have i even really house broken the dog? |
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Okay then. Looks like you are doing the right things. Usually if they shit in the crate, it's because they were not walked just before they are put into the crate. And when they do take a shit, they will do it in one corner of the crate and lay in the other corner. That would mean the crate is too big.
Is he purposefully laying in the crap or does he accidently roll over it while sleeping? Shitty situation 
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the crate is just big enough for him to stand and turn around in. that's it so he shits and he is laying in it because its tight in there. he dose it even after he has taken a nice healthy steamer outside right before he goes in. he also has separation anxiety( the joke between the wife and i is. we are so awesome that there is no way he cant have it) I am really tired of him doing this I have done everything i ca nto make him feel like this is his den he has a bone in there a blanket the works. he also never hesitates to go to his "pen" as we call it weather we are scolding him or putting him to bed or just locking him in there to go out or to work
he will also pee when he sees people like he gets really excited i don't know if it helps or is related but im told he will grow out of that is it true. he also had an accident last night because my wife got up went upstairs and i didn't notice he was pacing by are door and must have went over by the stairs and couldn't hold it any longer. |
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the crate is just big enough for him to stand and turn around in. that's it so he shits and he is laying in it because its tight in there. he dose it even after he has taken a nice healthy steamer outside right before he goes in. he also has separation anxiety( the joke between the wife and i is. we are so awesome that there is no way he cant have it) I am really tired of him doing this I have done everything i ca nto make him feel like this is his den he has a bone in there a blanket the works. he also never hesitates to go to his "pen" as we call it weather we are scolding him or putting him to bed or just locking him in there to go out or to work he will also pee when he sees people like he gets really excited i don't know if it helps or is related but im told he will grow out of that is it true. he also had an accident last night because my wife got up went upstairs and i didn't notice he was pacing by are door and must have went over by the stairs and couldn't hold it any longer. This second paragraph is not at all UNcommon in the breed. It's submissive urination. He's not meaning to do this. Don't beat him for it, for it will only make the problem worse. A LOT of the dogs the dachshund rescues get have been abused by people who couldn't house break them. I have a friend with TWO she adopted and both had been beaten senseless because their owners didn't have the patience for housebreaking them effectively. The dox I have now was not treated well as a pup and she's very submissive. For this reason, she's almost never been spanked. I use a water bottle and squirt her in the face if she does something dangerous or exhibits an unwanted behavior (peeing in the floor, etc). She also gets told "no". This is the ONLY breed I've ever owned, and I have over 30 years of experience with them alone. They are hard headed, and can be obstinate. But they are very loyal and some can be fiercely protective for their size...challenging animals much larger. You must be firm, consistent but gentle. Are you using a verbal command when you take him out and are you praising (I mean really making a scene) when he does what he should? I know it sounds nutty as hell, but I swear to you, this breed for some reason really needs that. XCRMonger said that's what worked on hers too was really praising loudly and throwing a big hoo-ha every time Oscar did his thing outdoors like he should. You need to be timely with your praise so he associates his actions with his "reward". Get this dog on a schedule of going outside. You may also want to visit a vet. If he is defecating outside and then going again in his pen even though it's not too big, his diet may need to be changed. PM me if you need. |
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First, how long are you leaving him in his crate? 7 months old may not be able to go as long as you are gone.
But, in any case, one critical mistake has been made: The dog has accepted pooping in his crate, which is in violation of the dog's natural desire NOT to poop in its own "home" or "bed". That means that you are fighting a more uphill battle than you might realize, and you need to fix it as soon as possible. I have seen people who have had that happen, not addressed it soon enough, then had lifelong trouble as a result. There is one way to do this: Make sure that the dog NEVER poops in the crate, so the habit will be broken. You will need to take the dog out quite often, reward pooping outdoors, watch him closely, maybe even switch from the crate to tying the dog's leash to your belt as you go about the day. In any event, take the dog out if he's eaten, if he's drinken, if he's woken up, if he's played, as soon as he starts to sniff (they WILL show that they need to go), or every hour if it hasn't otherwise gone. It's going to be a pain in the butt, potty-training always is. But you can bite the bullet now and do it right, or you can deal with a much harder problem later on. |
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We had a dog (an aussie, not a dachshund) with issues like you have described.
We gave up and took him back. There was shit everywhere. Only, he wouldn't go outside. He would hold it and hold it and hold it until he could go in the house. He barked and yowled all day while we were at work. It was awful. I feel like I failed that dog 
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As for the peeing, when you get home, quietly go about your business - hanging up your coat, your keys, starting dinner, etc. Talk to him about your day in a quiet, even tone but don't really look at him or pet him. Let him calm down, and the peeing will stop. Oscar used to do that.
If he jumps all over you when you come in the door, walk in, firmly say 'NO' as soon as he starts jumping, walk back out, wait a second, then come back in. After doing this a few times he will get the idea and stop. |
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We had a dog (an aussie, not a dachshund) with issues like you have described. We gave up and took him back. There was shit everywhere. Only, he wouldn't go outside. He would hold it and hold it and hold it until he could go in the house. He barked and yowled all day while we were at work. It was awful. I feel like I failed that dog did you get rid of the dog like within the last week? Quoted:
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the crate is just big enough for him to stand and turn around in. that's it so he shits and he is laying in it because its tight in there. he dose it even after he has taken a nice healthy steamer outside right before he goes in. he also has separation anxiety( the joke between the wife and i is. we are so awesome that there is no way he cant have it) I am really tired of him doing this I have done everything i ca nto make him feel like this is his den he has a bone in there a blanket the works. he also never hesitates to go to his "pen" as we call it weather we are scolding him or putting him to bed or just locking him in there to go out or to work he will also pee when he sees people like he gets really excited i don't know if it helps or is related but im told he will grow out of that is it true. he also had an accident last night because my wife got up went upstairs and i didn't notice he was pacing by are door and must have went over by the stairs and couldn't hold it any longer. This second paragraph is not at all UNcommon in the breed. It's submissive urination. He's not meaning to do this. Don't beat eed. i DONT BEAT THE DOG FOR PEEING WHEN HE GETS EXCITED(sorry about the caps) its one of those things i try to work on makeing sure people dont work him up to that point. the pooping in the crate thing is the only thing i really lose my patience with to the dog. he is very smart. and avoids me when this happens. other then that i can tell him to go "outside" open the door he goes about his business and comes back i reward him with a ton of praise. yes i admit the dog sometimes spends to much time in his crate but most the time he dose it when he has been there a short time |
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did you get rid of the dog like within the last week? Oh, no. This was years ago, before we got Oscar. The dog was a goddamn nightmare. Whoever had him before us wrecked him. i ask because are breeder also breeds assuies and had one returned to her it was badly beaten |
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did you get rid of the dog like within the last week? Oh, no. This was years ago, before we got Oscar. The dog was a goddamn nightmare. Whoever had him before us wrecked him. i ask because are breeder also breeds assuies and had one returned to her it was badly beaten Er... Nope...haven't beaten any dogs lately. |
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i DONT BEAT THE DOG FOR PEEING WHEN HE GETS EXCITED(sorry about the caps) its one of those things i try to work on makeing sure people dont work him up to that point. the pooping in the crate thing is the only thing i really lose my patience with to the dog. he is very smart. and avoids me when this happens. other then that i can tell him to go "outside" open the door he goes about his business and comes back i reward him with a ton of praise. yes i admit the dog sometimes spends to much time in his crate but most the time he dose it when he has been there a short time Sorry if you thought I was implying you had. I'm only saying doing so certainly will make it worse, not better. I can tell you some of these dogs will act up out of spite but yours could be having anxiety attacks/separation anxiety. The fact you did say he goes outside and also in his crate makes me wonder if you shouldn't consult a vet, perhaps for something to calm the dog while you're away and he is crated. Have you tried confining him to an area but not to the crate itself? For example, I don't crate mine, but she's confined to a tiled room with a child gate. |
| the caps in that message were a mistake and i didn't want to retype so im sorry if you thought i was yelling at you. what can i do for anxiety other then druging my dog. because i refuse to use drugs on myself and my animals like that. Don't make me out to be some kind of crazy person i believe in modern medicine but i also believe when it comes to matters of the brain |
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the caps in that message were a mistake and i didn't want to retype so im sorry if you thought i was yelling at you. what can i do for anxiety other then druging my dog. because i refuse to use drugs on myself and my animals like that. Don't make me out to be some kind of crazy person i believe in modern medicine but i also believe when it comes to matters of the brain I would try confinement outside the crate if you don't want to explore options with the vet. I work with someone who set up a webcam to find out what was going on with his dog while they were at work. Doing something like that might provide you some insight as to what is going on. |
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the caps in that message were a mistake and i didn't want to retype so im sorry if you thought i was yelling at you. what can i do for anxiety other then druging my dog. because i refuse to use drugs on myself and my animals like that. Don't make me out to be some kind of crazy person i believe in modern medicine but i also believe when it comes to matters of the brain Well... when it comes to matters of the brain, dogs don't necessarily get the benefit of talking to a counselor, and there are some genetic brain disorders that do run in certain types of dogs. You can believe in the dogs all you want, but when genetics deals you a bad card, belief isn't going to do a whole lot for them. That's not to say that drugs will always get them to a good state, either. But even in cases where things may not be extreme, the drugs can be quite good at one thing: Getting them to a state where you can begin using behavior modification and other methods to get them to learn new coping strategies, and eventually not need the drugs at all. A temporary crutch, if you will, that opens the doorway to getting some real growth and learning to happen. |
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I found this today and you may find much of what this person says to be insightful. She echos a lot of what I said, that this breed in particular is stubborn, and that many of the doxies you find in rescues are ones that someone was unable to housebreak.
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an update my doxie dose not poop in his pen. when we are gone hasnt for about as long as this thread is old. happend acouple of times since but he was sick so can fault him for that. as crazy as it sounds we keep him in his smaller pen. he only has one pen now not like before he had the wire crate downstairs and the old plastic style dog carrier. now its jsut the smaller plastic crate. We also tell him we will be right back and it seems o have helped(maybe its just are imagination but whatever its working some how)
BUT the darn dog is still peeing when people come around.he gets so worked up he just pees. which to say the least is annoying and we really cant take him places because of this. how do i get it to stop or will he grow out of it? |
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an update my doxie dose not poop in his pen. when we are gone hasnt for about as long as this thread is old. happend acouple of times since but he was sick so can fault him for that. as crazy as it sounds we keep him in his smaller pen. he only has one pen now not like before he had the wire crate downstairs and the old plastic style dog carrier. now its jsut the smaller plastic crate. We also tell him we will be right back and it seems o have helped(maybe its just are imagination but whatever its working some how) BUT the darn dog is still peeing when people come around.he gets so worked up he just pees. which to say the least is annoying and we really cant take him places because of this. how do i get it to stop or will he grow out of it? That's from the excitement. It's called submissive urination and a LOT of them do this. Do what XCR suggested. If he's getting so worked up he pees try having people come in and ignore him at first––no speaking to him, no petting him. Another tactic I've used is to take the dog out 5-10 minutes BEFORE anyone is coming to the house if I know they are coming beforehand. That way I know her bladder is empty and it's less apt to happen. Sounds like your dog had a crate large enough to eliminate in it and it not bother him. The smaller crate makes him more uncomfortable with soiling it. Like I said, this breed will really test you. They are just that way. When they really love you and trust you, some of the more submissive ones allow you to do really interesting things to them. Here's Madison about 3 weeks ago on her birthday: 
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He tests me thats for sure but. its worth it. i can walk him without a leash and he listens to me more then he dosnt i can let him run around outside without a great fear of him running off. but i have to see if i can get his excitement level down when people come over.
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He tests me thats for sure but. its worth it. i can walk him without a leash and he listens to me more then he dosnt i can let him run around outside without a great fear of him running off. but i have to see if i can get his excitement level down when people come over. is that a miniature doxie? Yes. She is. She's about 10 pounds, if that. Long and slender. She's a product of a chocolate mom and a tan father, so her color is a little different than most reds. |
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an update my doxie dose not poop in his pen. when we are gone hasnt for about as long as this thread is old. happend acouple of times since but he was sick so can fault him for that. as crazy as it sounds we keep him in his smaller pen. he only has one pen now not like before he had the wire crate downstairs and the old plastic style dog carrier. now its jsut the smaller plastic crate. We also tell him we will be right back and it seems o have helped(maybe its just are imagination but whatever its working some how) BUT the darn dog is still peeing when people come around.he gets so worked up he just pees. which to say the least is annoying and we really cant take him places because of this. how do i get it to stop or will he grow out of it? That's from the excitement. It's called submissive urination and a LOT of them do this. Do what XCR suggested. If he's getting so worked up he pees try having people come in and ignore him at first––no speaking to him, no petting him. Another tactic I've used is to take the dog out 5-10 minutes BEFORE anyone is coming to the house if I know they are coming beforehand. That way I know her bladder is empty and it's less apt to happen. Sounds like your dog had a crate large enough to eliminate in it and it not bother him. The smaller crate makes him more uncomfortable with soiling it. Like I said, this breed will really test you. They are just that way. When they really love you and trust you, some of the more submissive ones allow you to do really interesting things to them. Here's Madison about 3 weeks ago on her birthday: http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee365/TwistedSister1989/BirthdayHat.jpg LOL hope u dont get to freindly with your dog sry couldnt help myself
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an update my doxie dose not poop in his pen. when we are gone hasnt for about as long as this thread is old. happend acouple of times since but he was sick so can fault him for that. as crazy as it sounds we keep him in his smaller pen. he only has one pen now not like before he had the wire crate downstairs and the old plastic style dog carrier. now its jsut the smaller plastic crate. We also tell him we will be right back and it seems o have helped(maybe its just are imagination but whatever its working some how) BUT the darn dog is still peeing when people come around.he gets so worked up he just pees. which to say the least is annoying and we really cant take him places because of this. how do i get it to stop or will he grow out of it? That's from the excitement. It's called submissive urination and a LOT of them do this. Do what XCR suggested. If he's getting so worked up he pees try having people come in and ignore him at first––no speaking to him, no petting him. Another tactic I've used is to take the dog out 5-10 minutes BEFORE anyone is coming to the house if I know they are coming beforehand. That way I know her bladder is empty and it's less apt to happen. Sounds like your dog had a crate large enough to eliminate in it and it not bother him. The smaller crate makes him more uncomfortable with soiling it. Like I said, this breed will really test you. They are just that way. When they really love you and trust you, some of the more submissive ones allow you to do really interesting things to them. Here's Madison about 3 weeks ago on her birthday: http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee365/TwistedSister1989/BirthdayHat.jpg LOL hope u dont get to freindly with your dog sry couldnt help myself
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well here is my doxie https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=2d23d3abe9&view=att&th=137ab6297cde9021&attid=0.1&disp=inline&realattid=f_h2y5wp5w0&safe=1&zw https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=2d23d3abe9&view=att&th=137ab6297cde9021&attid=0.3&disp=inline&realattid=f_h2y5x56x2&safe=1&zw https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=2d23d3abe9&view=att&th=137ab6297cde9021&attid=0.2&disp=inline&realattid=f_h2y5x0y01&safe=1&zw Pics not coming through!
Madison found her first bird yesterday. It was a baby. She did real well with being called off with "Leave it". |