[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Private security? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/5/2014 12:33:43 PM EDT
| Anyone have experience in the security industry? Will be exiting the army soon and looking into the security industry. Any advice on wear to start, do's and donts etc. |
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Anyone have experience in the security industry? Will be exiting the army soon and looking into the security industry. Any advice on wear to start, do's and donts etc. It would be helpful if you would provide a location of where you plan to live. Big difference between Seattle WA, Asheboro NC and Little Rock Rock AR. Some places can pay ok. |
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Anyone have experience in the security industry? Will be exiting the army soon and looking into the security industry. Any advice on wear to start, do's and donts etc. No really high goals in life eh? lol Stay away from it. It's a great way to make shit pay. I've only done the higher end .gov jobs and they paid well, but you will always be looking for a gig when one is over. When you are done, you have nothing to show for it. More times than not you need to have a combat arms MOS and combat experience. The more common security jobs pay crap. Do yourself a favor and go to school and get a real career. |
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No really high goals in life eh? lol Stay away from it. It's a great way to make shit pay. I've only done the higher end .gov jobs and they paid well, but you will always be looking for a gig when one is over. When you are done, you have nothing to show for it. More times than not you need to have a combat arms MOS and combat experience. The more common security jobs pay crap. Do yourself a favor and go to school and get a real career. Quoted:
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Anyone have experience in the security industry? Will be exiting the army soon and looking into the security industry. Any advice on wear to start, do's and donts etc. No really high goals in life eh? lol Stay away from it. It's a great way to make shit pay. I've only done the higher end .gov jobs and they paid well, but you will always be looking for a gig when one is over. When you are done, you have nothing to show for it. More times than not you need to have a combat arms MOS and combat experience. The more common security jobs pay crap. Do yourself a favor and go to school and get a real career. This. Do you want to be like Zaminsky when you're 40? Or do you want to be an ARFCOM millionaire with a playboy bunny wife and drive a Ferrari? Ill tell you what track I am on and its not busting people drinking beer in their car in their own driveway. |
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I worked security for a couple of years while I went to college. It SUCKED! Terrible pay and work conditions. Became a cop for better pay and slightly better working conditions.
If you're set on working security then look into the security departments at something like a nuclear power plant. I haven't dealt with them in a long time but they used to get paid fairly well and had good benefits. Most seemed to like their jobs. |
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Stay the fuck away from private security companies, period!
Usually businesses with their own internal security are the better way to go, with nuke plants being Tier 1 for corporate security. Some of the private companies have nuke contracts, the above still applies. Wife has a cousin who retired last year from the Army, he went to work in Wichita working security for Koch. They run their own program from plant security to personal security details for the Koch family. |
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There are many different levels of private security. What do you anticipate doing.???
I never worked private security but I used several firms to provide services. Mostly renta cops watching buildings . Or floor walking duty. My overall impressions of the firms themselves are quite low. Treat the employees rather shabby. The firms charge an arm and a leg but pay the employees as little as possible. And low pay is only part of the problems with the firms. Try for something better. gd |
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Ermehgerd Blerkwerter! |
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Anyone have experience in the security industry? Will be exiting the army soon and looking into the security industry. Any advice on wear to start, do's and donts etc. No really high goals in life eh? lol Stay away from it. It's a great way to make shit pay. I've only done the higher end .gov jobs and they paid well, but you will always be looking for a gig when one is over. When you are done, you have nothing to show for it. More times than not you need to have a combat arms MOS and combat experience. The more common security jobs pay crap. Do yourself a favor and go to school and get a real career. This. Do you want to be like Zaminsky when you're 40? Or do you want to be an ARFCOM millionaire with a playboy bunny wife and drive a Ferrari? Ill tell you what track I am on and its not busting people drinking beer in their car in their own driveway. Or you can be like this guy here. Thinking he's the shit. He's right you know... |
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A federal contract would be a good way to transition from the Army to civilian life and will allow you to easily go to school. PM me if you want details, but it depends on which state you live in. Students who need a job that works with their schedule and that lets them study on the job are the one group that does really well at security gigs. |
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In my locale: Unarmed security: $7.25 to $9.00 per hour Armed security: $9.00 to $11.00 per hour Around here, armed for celebrities/black tie events and federal contracts is $20-30/hour. But you do need to know people and it's unlikely to just jump into it. |
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I'll just say this since I know of a few people who tried transitioning into the Civilian life and I learned from conversations with them. Basically, security jobs suck ass. Sure you might get lucky and get a nice one, but in general they suck. If you want OK pay and great benefits, become a cop. If you want to continue to have adventure and get paid good money, become a PMC. A few I know tried the transition into a normal life and got sick of the monotony of it and decided to get into the Private Military Contracting field. Keep in mind, if you go this route, you better not have any home life or any dependents. Most of your year will be spent in foreign nations and meeting new people. I hear it can be quite a lonely life unless you have a group of buds in the company you are in. A marine I know of said this when he got sick of the beuracracy of the Marines and joined a PMC. "Eat the apple and fuck the corps."
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Quoted: Around here, armed for celebrities/black tie events and federal contracts is $20-30/hour. But you do need to know people and it's unlikely to just jump into it. Quoted: Quoted: In my locale: Unarmed security: $7.25 to $9.00 per hour Armed security: $9.00 to $11.00 per hour Around here, armed for celebrities/black tie events and federal contracts is $20-30/hour. But you do need to know people and it's unlikely to just jump into it. I worked a federal security contract gig with FEMA back in 1996-1997. It paid $15.50 per hour. Carried a S&W 38 special. Remington 870 in the patrol vehicle (Jeep Cherokee). What helped me to get the gig was that I had a TS/SCI clearance and was just out of the Army. Of course, I wanted to be "The Man", and came to Georgia to be a LEO for $10.18 per hour.  In hindsight, should have taken the job with Washington DC Metropolitan Police.
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I worked a federal security contract gig with FEMA back in 1996-1997. It paid $15.50 per hour. Carried a S&W 38 special. Remington 870 in the patrol vehicle (Jeep Cherokee). What helped me to get the gig was that I had a TS/SCI clearance and was just out of the Army. Of course, I wanted to be "The Man", and came to Georgia to be a LEO for $10.18 per hour.
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In my locale: Unarmed security: $7.25 to $9.00 per hour Armed security: $9.00 to $11.00 per hour Around here, armed for celebrities/black tie events and federal contracts is $20-30/hour. But you do need to know people and it's unlikely to just jump into it. I worked a federal security contract gig with FEMA back in 1996-1997. It paid $15.50 per hour. Carried a S&W 38 special. Remington 870 in the patrol vehicle (Jeep Cherokee). What helped me to get the gig was that I had a TS/SCI clearance and was just out of the Army. Of course, I wanted to be "The Man", and came to Georgia to be a LEO for $10.18 per hour.
In hindsight, should have taken the job with Washington DC Metropolitan Police. I got invited to their testing a few months back. They emailed me about it with less than a month of notice. 
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Do NOT send a resume to this idiot: http://scarmilitary.com/ 
Read through the website.. it reads like a parody but it's real. I have met the kid behind the company. His story is that because of his amazing marksmanship skills in the boy scouts, he was recruited by a shadowy government agency.
Seriously, read it and laugh. http://scarmilitary.com/employment/commando/ |
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After retiring from LE, I run a contract for security work.
With .MIL and an honorable discharge $13 unarmed $16 armed these are all less than 30 hours per week (Obama care) I have 400 Full time positions that range from 13-20 per hour with terrible insurance Use it if you need a job while you are attending school. This is not a long term employment option |
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There are many different levels of private security. What do you anticipate doing.??? I never worked private security but I used several firms to provide services. Mostly renta cops watching buildings . Or floor walking duty. My overall impressions of the firms themselves are quite low. Treat the employees rather shabby. The firms charge an arm and a leg but pay the employees as little as possible. And low pay is only part of the problems with the firms. Try for something better. gd Truth. I moved from a different city/state to come back home earlier this year and am also trying to change careers. Right now I work for a rather large security company on a VERY premier contract of theirs; $14.65/hr and that's about the highest paid guard position in the area (unarmed). No vacation - it's 24/7 shift work so if I need a different day off than what is scheduled I have to find someone to switch with me, and it has to be within the same week - they won't pay overtime for scheduling changes. They have health insurance, but the benefits don't kick in until 3 full calendar months have passed - I started mid September but coverage won't kick in until January. It's boring, and easy, but definitely dead-end. Performance reviews only come once a year, with no guarantee of raises. If someone shows up late or calls off I have to stay until either they show up or an extra 4 hours, assuming someone from the next shift comes early. The supervisor positions only pay $17 something an hour. The salaried positions are few and far between and from what I hear are overworked and inundated with corporate BS. If you have to work security, treat it as temporary, not a career. |
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Depends on the job. Govt contracts pay well. Regular guard pay is fairly low armed is around 15hr-9hr , unarmed 11hr-8hr unarmed At least in my area of Texas.
However as I said govt contracts are great 28hr avg and they are always looking for people. There are guys that have been on contracts for 30 years. You need military/law or 1 year armed guard minimum to apply. I don't know about the PI field but I am thinking about getting my license. Damn iPad. |
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Do NOT send a resume to this idiot: http://scarmilitary.com/
Read through the website.. it reads like a parody but it's real. I have met the kid behind the company. His story is that because of his amazing marksmanship skills in the boy scouts, he was recruited by a shadowy government agency.
Seriously, read it and laugh. http://scarmilitary.com/employment/commando/ Wow... That was something special.
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In my locale: Unarmed security: $7.25 to $9.00 per hour Armed security: $9.00 to $11.00 per hour Well, I work armed security and get paid $20 an hour. Special details pay $25 an hour. I am retired LE, so I already have a pension and medical. This is southern NJ. NYC is about the same pay wise. |
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Quoted: Well, I work armed security and get paid $20 an hour. Special details pay $25 an hour. I am retired LE, so I already have a pension and medical. This is southern NJ. NYC is about the same pay wise. Quoted: Quoted: In my locale: Unarmed security: $7.25 to $9.00 per hour Armed security: $9.00 to $11.00 per hour Well, I work armed security and get paid $20 an hour. Special details pay $25 an hour. I am retired LE, so I already have a pension and medical. This is southern NJ. NYC is about the same pay wise. 16 years in LE, I was making less than $15/hour. I'm making more with less than 1 year in IT. I'll be done with my Associates degree in Summer 2015. Unfortunately, I might be applying for a campus LEO position (at the tech school I attend) since nothing is panning out in the IT field for my locale. Not having the degree yet has severely limited my options. Having 1 year of OJT only goes so far. |
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Getting into Law Enforcement is a good way to get your foot in the door. At least it has been for me. Most events or entertainers dont really hire 24/7 security teams anymore. They just contract out the local cops. But if you do it enough you will make some contacts that may lead to some. Or you could always get on with mall security
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Do NOT send a resume to this idiot: http://scarmilitary.com/
Read through the website.. it reads like a parody but it's real. I have met the kid behind the company. His story is that because of his amazing marksmanship skills in the boy scouts, he was recruited by a shadowy government agency.
Seriously, read it and laugh. http://scarmilitary.com/employment/commando/ Wow... That was something special. please tell us more. That website was mesmerizing |
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OP, you see these guys on the monitor what do you do?
http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steamcommunity/public/images/items/24240/f6516839f306479ea9bd2e85d7d553c80ffb8fdb.jpg This |
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In most states the federal buildings in your area are guarded by ex military private security.
Go to your local SSA and ask the guard for the contact website. Submit your resume as if you have your licensing for the state that pertains to you, and find a company locally to get on with that will hire and carry your licensing while you go thru the hiring process. You must be: In good health Able to stand for up to four hours with no break. Have the capability to get a confidential clearance. No DUI misdemeanors , repo, or bankruptcy etc. Good credit no outstanding collections Your military experience will satisfy the one to three years private security hiring requirement. You still need to get your state licenses before the company cattle call. Usually it's a 40hr garbage class for $250-300 and you need a company willing to carry your licensing within 30 days of receiving the armed cert. Be a good pistol shot: you get two chances at above an 80% on the fletc qual. And be willing to wait in a hiring cue for thirty days, and train for a week at min wage when a first time hire. The training is mundane, the work boring, but it's usually a 45-60k a year job. With lots of OT. 9-5 or 6-6 and a 4. All fed holidays paid off, and 160-250 hrs vacation a year. Be willing to put up with pointless bullshit. |
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Most company's have a union- do not waste money on the union.
Most company's offer Obama care compliant assrape medical coverage. If you are exmil you can choose not to participate in that fuckery. Just submit a letter of benefits from the VA. That may not apply to all company's. |
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No really high goals in life eh? lol Stay away from it. It's a great way to make shit pay. I've only done the higher end .gov jobs and they paid well, but you will always be looking for a gig when one is over. When you are done, you have nothing to show for it. More times than not you need to have a combat arms MOS and combat experience. The more common security jobs pay crap. Do yourself a favor and go to school and get a real career. Quoted:
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Anyone have experience in the security industry? Will be exiting the army soon and looking into the security industry. Any advice on wear to start, do's and donts etc. No really high goals in life eh? lol Stay away from it. It's a great way to make shit pay. I've only done the higher end .gov jobs and they paid well, but you will always be looking for a gig when one is over. When you are done, you have nothing to show for it. More times than not you need to have a combat arms MOS and combat experience. The more common security jobs pay crap. Do yourself a favor and go to school and get a real career. This is only remotely true if one works in the contract security industry, and even then there are exceptions. If you consider corporate security positions, especially moving into supervision or management and not just punching a time clock every day, it can be very rewarding. |
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A buddy of mine got out of the Navy and took a security guard job at a major insurance company's HQ to work his way through college, not expecting it to be anything more than a paycheck. His goal was to become a lawyer. He's a smart dude, clean cut and always on time. When he graduated they promoted him to the CEO's security detail, got to travel all over the world, got trained in driving and martial arts. 2 years later he was head of the CEO's security detail. 2 years after that he got hired as a Secret Service agent.
Any job can open a door if you show up on time and have a plan. Maybe not the path you envisioned for yourself but a path nonetheless. |