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2/19/2009 12:32:41 PM EDT





I got the first sticker from move-on (YES WE DID), and the second sticker came last week (Pro Hunter, Pro Obama).

The sticker in the upper left also came last week, not sure how the mailing lists got mixed up on that one..  

2/19/2009 12:33:28 PM EDT
[#1]
IBTFF

In before the flame fest.
2/19/2009 12:34:02 PM EDT
[#2]
GTFO
2/19/2009 12:34:14 PM EDT
[#3]
Hunting has nothing to do with gun ownership.

Not only are you pro-Kenyan, you are also pro-stupidity.
2/19/2009 12:34:19 PM EDT
[#4]
Troll much?
2/19/2009 12:34:28 PM EDT
[#5]


2/19/2009 12:34:31 PM EDT
[#6]
Send money!
2/19/2009 12:34:38 PM EDT
[#7]
WTF is this shit?
2/19/2009 12:36:24 PM EDT
[#8]
bets that your next one says "Pro Gun Homosexual"
2/19/2009 12:36:32 PM EDT
[#9]
Perhaps I should clarify...


I got the YES WE DID sticker from Move-On, found in the thread here at ARFCOM (thanks!). The Pro Hunter, Pro Obama sticker came last week, not sure why.  If they want to waste stickers, I'm all for it.  The third sticker also came last week, doesn't exactly fit in with the two freebies that I got before it .
2/19/2009 12:36:46 PM EDT
[#10]


eta:

Perhaps I should clarify...


I got the YES WE DID sticker from Move-On, found in the thread here at ARFCOM, in an effort to waste any tiny bit of their money. The Pro Hunter, Pro Obama sticker came last week, not sure why. If they want to waste stickers, I'm all for it. The third sticker also came last week, doesn't exactly fit in with the two freebies that I got before it .



That makes better sense. Perhaps we should start having these shipped to the addresses of our local dumps
2/19/2009 12:37:51 PM EDT
[#11]


2/19/2009 12:37:58 PM EDT
[#12]
Fudd
2/19/2009 12:38:26 PM EDT
[#13]
GTFO!
2/19/2009 12:39:00 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Perhaps I should clarify...


I got the YES WE DID sticker from Move-On, found in the thread here at ARFCOM, in an effort to waste any tiny bit of their money.  The Pro Hunter, Pro Obama sticker came last week, not sure why.  If they want to waste stickers, I'm all for it.  The third sticker also came last week, doesn't exactly fit in with the two freebies that I got before it .


I havn't even been here that long to know the people in this forum could give a rats ass about your stickers or who you support.
2/19/2009 12:39:29 PM EDT
[#16]
What the fuck?
2/19/2009 12:39:31 PM EDT
[#17]
Are you kidding me???? Is this a fucking joke?
2/19/2009 12:40:15 PM EDT
[#18]
I don't know what's funnier you thinking Obama will protect your gun rights or you thinking Obama will protect your job either way, thanks for the laugh.
2/19/2009 12:40:46 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Are you kidding me???? Is this a fucking joke?


If the post isn't, the poster is.
2/19/2009 12:40:59 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
WTF is this shit?



This
2/19/2009 12:41:07 PM EDT
[#21]
Come on dude, Trolling is so damn childish.  Grow the fuck up and man the fuck up.
2/19/2009 12:41:19 PM EDT
[#22]
in on ein
2/19/2009 12:42:44 PM EDT
[#23]
I got my AHSA sticker on Tuesday. First I laughed at the postage spent sending it to me, then I defaced it with malice aforethought, then I showed my kids (who laughed) and then threw it in the trash.

I wonder if they'll send me more...
2/19/2009 12:43:47 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
I got my AHSA sticker on Tuesday. First I laughed at the postage spent sending it to me, then I defaced it with malice aforethought, then I showed my kids (who laughed) and then threw it in the trash.

I wonder if they'll send me more...


That's what I'm hoping for.  So is it from the Move on (yes we did) sticker, or just some spam mail?  I still don't know how the extreme predator sticker fits in, but I'd rock that one.  
2/19/2009 12:44:44 PM EDT
[#25]
Fuck Obama.
2/19/2009 12:44:49 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Hunting has nothing to do with gun ownership.

Not only are you pro-Kenyan, you are also pro-stupidity.


Well then you must be pro Irish, pro this or pro that, who gives a fuck?  That sounds pretty close minded.  What the fuck do you care what country he has ethnic ties to?  He isn't even that BLACK for fucks sake, a lot of black people said he isn't fucking "black enough".  hahaha

You make it sound like it is connected to terrorism in some way, more nonsense.

You know, mosts terrorists in the middle east, from what I gather, are RIGHT WING actually.  They are more conservative, than those who oppose them and want a more democratic-esque system.
2/19/2009 12:45:19 PM EDT
[#27]



Little does the man in the picture know he will probably lose both because of BHO.
2/19/2009 12:45:48 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp333/svh19044/prohunter009.jpg




I got the first sticker from move-on (YES WE DID), and the second sticker came last week (Pro Hunter, Pro Obama).

The sticker in the upper left also came last week.  

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp333/svh19044/prohunter010.jpg


Thats so awesome!  I'm now writing you down as a subversive plant.
2/19/2009 12:45:51 PM EDT
[#29]
2/19/2009 12:46:12 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Fuck Obama.


+87
2/19/2009 12:46:13 PM EDT
[#31]
Well, people do have the right to be stupid if the wish.
2/19/2009 12:48:57 PM EDT
[#32]
From the AHSA web site.........



http://www.huntersandshooters.org/about/obamaendorsement







AHSA supports candidates that stand up for our values and are committed to protecting our right to hunt.





For President: Barack Obama






Senator Obama has clearly demonstrated his commitment to the 2nd Amendment.





His support of the Vitter amendment to HR 5441, the Department of Homeland Security Appropriations bill of 2007, is particularly telling. This amendment prevents the Government from confiscating guns in a time of crisis or emergency. Senator Obama's vote demonstrated a fundamental understanding of the meaning of the 2nd Amendment which means he recognizes the individual right of all citizens to keep and bear arms.





In addition, Senator Obama's commitment to conservation and protection of our natural resources and access to public lands demonstrates to us his commitment to America's hunting and shooting heritage.





Senator Obama will be a strong and authentic voice for America's hunters and shooters and it is with great pleasure that we endorse his candidacy.



2/19/2009 12:52:00 PM EDT
[#33]




Quoted:

Are you kidding me???? Is this a fucking joke?


It has to be nobody can be that fucking stupid.

2/19/2009 12:54:04 PM EDT
[#34]
DIE
2/19/2009 12:56:02 PM EDT
[#35]
Wrong place, wrong time.  Try being an Ass hat somewhere else
2/19/2009 12:56:44 PM EDT
[#36]




Quoted:

DIE




This.



What's your fuckin' point OP?
2/19/2009 12:59:21 PM EDT
[#37]
FOAD
2/19/2009 1:00:59 PM EDT
[#38]




Quoted:

Perhaps I should clarify...





I got the YES WE DID sticker from Move-On, found in the thread here at ARFCOM (thanks!). The Pro Hunter, Pro Obama sticker came last week, not sure why. If they want to waste stickers, I'm all for it. The third sticker also came last week, doesn't exactly fit in with the two freebies that I got before it .









For Teh n00bs who don;t know, the AHSA is a False Flag organization (properly ID'd by NYPatriot), started by several known anti-gun folks (Brady/HCI/VPC) as an anti-NRA group for gun control or handguns and EBR's (but not for Fudds - the perjorative anti EBR intent of that term intentional), as mentioned in this archived thread and this one.



Or, as 45Colt posted:





American Hunters And Shooters Association: The Ultimate In Political Camouflage



When it comes to political discourse and campaign rhetoric on Second Amendment Rights, there are two events that have shaped the current landscape more than any others: the 1994 mid term elections and the 2000 Presidential election. In 1994, gun owners turned out in record numbers to send a message to the Clinton Administration that the gun bans and the anti-gun laws they had pursued were unacceptable. And in 2000, Vice President Al Gore lost because his position on guns was unacceptable to voters in states that had been reliable for his party for decades.



The result was a watershed change in American politics, and a change in the way many anti-gun politicians campaign. Rather than talk openly about their desire to ban guns, register gun owners and regulate firearms sales, anti-gun politicians talk about their “support” for sportsmen. Rather than admit they oppose the individual right protected by the Second Amendment, they claim they “support firearms ownership for hunting.”



This is all an effort to mislead and divide the gun owning community and to dilute gun owners’ political impact. Anti-gun activists want to ensure that 1994 and 2000 never happen again. To achieve their goals they have created new organizations with names designed to confuse gun owners and hide the real agenda. The American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA) is one of those groups.



AHSA was created with the specific intent to provide political cover for anti-gun politicians by allowing them to claim support from a “sportsmen’s” group. In truth, the anti-gun credentials of AHSA’s leadership is well documented. For instance, AHSA president Ray Schoenke has a long history of giving political donations to some of the most anti-gun politicians, including Al Gore, John Kerry, Barbara Boxer, Bill Clinton, Dianne Feinstein and Ted Kennedy. In 2000, Schoenke donated $5,000 to Handgun Control, Inc. (now the Brady Campaign) and the Ray and Holly Schoenke Foundation also made donations to the Brady Campaign. AHSA Board member John Rosenthal remains the leader of Stop Handgun Violence, the Massachusetts anti-gun group. And one of the leading organizers of AHSA is Bob Ricker, who has been a paid expert witness against gun manufacturers in a number of reckless lawsuits. (For more information, see Anti-Gunners Don Camo As Elections Loom.)



AHSA’s political activities are predictable when you consider its primary goals are to discredit the NRA and advance the interests of anti-gun politicians. AHSA`s first effort was in the 2006 Missouri Senate race. AHSA used direct mail to mislead sportsmen and distort the landmark work NRA was doing to protect millions of acres of wetlands in Missouri. While NRA was working with legislators to protect the 100-year flood plain in Missouri from development and ensure that land would be available to hunters, AHSA produced direct mail falsely claiming the NRA had “sold out hunters” so that they could mislead sportsmen into voting for anti-gun candidate Claire McCaskill (See Who Needs Another Alternative To NRA for more information.) Unfortunately, AHSA’s lies were at least partly to blame for McCaskill’s election and the loss of Sen. Jim Talent, a valuable friend of gun owners and sportsmen.



While the NRA counts membership in the millions, AHSA can only claim a few hundred members and has done nothing to advance the issues important to sportsmen. On top of that, in its first foray into Second Amendment issues, AHSA chose to stand alongside one of the leading anti-gun politicians in America: New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg. AHSA supported Bloomberg’s effort to repeal the law that protects confidential law enforcement data from disclosure that threatens the privacy of gun owners and the safety of law enforcement officers—all so that Bloomberg could use the information in reckless lawsuits against the firearms industry (for more information, see: The "Tiahrt Amendment" on Firearms Traces: Protecting Gun Owners` Privacy and Law Enforcement Safety). By standing with Bloomberg, AHSA President Ray Schoenke made his claims that “we are a gun rights organization” impossible to defend.



AHSA has also attempted to use the District of Columbia v. Heller case as an opportunity to create false pro-gun credentials, but its effort reveals the group’s real agenda. In its friend of the court brief—ostensibly in support of the challenge to D.C.’s gun ban—AHSA claims to support the individual rights interpretation of the Second Amendment, but a complete reading shows a different story. The AHSA brief actually makes the case that the D.C. gun ban is mainly improper because D.C. is not a state, and the gun ban has not been authorized by Congress, saying “as a federal district, D.C. enjoys none of the indicia of statehood absent congressional legislation to the contrary and, therefore, basic notions of federalism cannot logically or semantically apply to the District.”



If AHSA’s position were adopted, it would strengthen the ability of states to pass more restrictive gun laws and lessen the impact of a pro-Second Amendment ruling in any of the fifty states. Unsurprisingly, in its conclusion, the brief states:



The argument advanced by [AHSA] would in no way prevent the D.C. Council from enacting reasonable regulations relating to possession, safety, and registration of firearms in the District. Indeed, it has a responsibility to the public to do so. [AHSA believes] that the District’s Gun Law was a laudable effort.



“Reasonable regulations,” “a responsibility to the public to do so,” a “laudable effort”?



No organization that claims the D.C. gun ban is a “laudable effort” or claims the gun regulations supported by the D.C. Council are “reasonable” can be described as pro-Second Amendment by any stretch of the imagination. And the claim that the gun ban’s primary flaw is that is was not enacted by a state eliminates any doubt that AHSA opposes a true individual right to keep and bear arms. If AHSA’s view were adopted, states would largely not be subject to the ruling—and to the extent they were, would not be prevented from enacting a broad range of laws as “reasonable regulations.” In fact, they would say, it would be their “responsibility to the public to do so.”



AHSA would be more correctly called the “American Association for the Protection of Anti-Gun Politicians.” No gun owner or sportsman should fall prey to its carefully crafted lies and deceptions.



A look at AHSA’s Board of Directors reveals its true colors. Executive Director Bob Ricker is a failed gun-industry lawyer turned paid mouthpiece for the anti-gun lobby. Ricker was paid to give sworn testimony in New York City’s baseless lawsuit against the firearms industry that attempted to hold gun manufacturers and dealers responsible for the acts of criminals. Board Member John Rosenthal founded the anti-gun Massachusetts state group “Stop Handgun Violence.” He is also a former member of the Handgun Control, Inc. (HCI) board of directors. Board Member Ray Schoenke donated $5,000 to HCI and was rewarded by HCI for various other contributions by being named a major benefactor at their annual dinner. The list of AHSA board members with anti-gun associations goes on. As does the group’s shameless attempts to pull the wool over the eyes of the public and pretend that it is pro-gun. (For more information, see Anti-gunners Don Camo as Elections Loom)





2/19/2009 1:02:21 PM EDT
[#39]
did I make it on 1?
2/19/2009 1:04:58 PM EDT
[#40]



itstock:



it s tock
1: a person lacking in judgment or prudence
2 a:
a retainer formerly kept in great households to provide casual
entertainment and commonly dressed in motley with cap, bells, and bauble b: one who is victimized or made to appear foolish : dupe
3 a: a harmlessly deranged person or one lacking in common powers of understanding b: one with a marked propensity or fondness for something <a dancing fool> <a fool for candy>
4 a:









 
2/19/2009 1:05:39 PM EDT
[#41]
Were you expecting a AR15.com internet high five for being different?
2/19/2009 1:06:53 PM EDT
[#42]
Obama and pro gun are two very opposite sides of the spectrum.  Oh, and fuck Obama.
2/19/2009 1:07:51 PM EDT
[#43]
The time has come to start "Americans for Sensible Firearm Laws" and oppose every legislation.
2/19/2009 1:08:02 PM EDT
[#44]
2/19/2009 1:11:55 PM EDT
[#45]
Well I would like to say

Obama won't be "pro gun"

and

There won't be squads of Obamas henchmen raiding your house for firearms for no reason, they aren't gonna take your guns away but may limit you in your options to purchase certain firearms

and yes I am pro gun and Obama is shit

but then again Reagan was the worst president ever, so there
2/19/2009 1:12:42 PM EDT
[#46]
Obama is to guns, as oil is to water.
2/19/2009 1:29:23 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Were you expecting a AR15.com internet high five for being different?


I'm not really that different.     Damn, who would have thought there would be such little appreciation.  
2/19/2009 1:33:46 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
bets that your next one says "Pro Gun Homosexual"


Taint, I mean Taisch is back. Ban him, and the screen his mom bought him is small

2/19/2009 1:35:36 PM EDT
[#49]
IN!
2/19/2009 1:40:13 PM EDT
[#50]


 What the fuck is wrong with you
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