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9/29/2009 12:10:10 PM EDT
A friend of mine's MacBook won't boot, so she handed it to me to fix, ha.

It starts, goes to the gray screen with the apple.  Then the processing wheel starts and just doesn't stop.  She let it do this for ten minutes before telling me about it, so it is going for at least that long.  When I press option on boot, it gives me the option of booting in OS X or XP.  I have tried to use the Shift method of starting in Safe Mode with no luck at all––apple shows up, but the processing wheel doesn't.  I have reset PRAM and SMC also with no luck.

Ideas?

I haven't attempted to start in Windows yet because I am in class and her sound is on.
9/29/2009 12:14:49 PM EDT
[#1]
Did she fill up the hard drive? What was it doing before it started this?



Without some details it is hard to help.
9/29/2009 12:16:21 PM EDT
[#2]
Yeah I know.  I can't really add more details until after class when I can talk to her.
9/29/2009 12:18:40 PM EDT
[#3]
Boot from the OS X install DVD... Check it out with the disk utility, reinstall if necessary...

I haven't had a serious problem like that with OS X unless I was messing around with stuff I shouldn't have. But back in the MacOS 8 days, my old PowerMac would crash like clockwork twice a year and I'd have to format the drive and reinstall. Backups were worthless - old CD-R drives were slow as molasses and all my Zip drives had the click of death(fuck you Iomega).
9/29/2009 12:20:33 PM EDT
[#4]
probably will have to reinstall the OS...although it sounds like you're using 10.5 ...my woes were with 10.4 so YMMV

eta: see above...I also only ever had problems after I was messing around with stuff I shouldn't have been touching in the first place.
9/29/2009 12:21:35 PM EDT
[#5]
1 down load the latest combo update from apple

2 start the MB from a fire wire drive

3 install the update.

9 times out of 10 that will work.

can you boot in single user mode

hold down command + s key while booting?

if you can type in fsck at the command prompt
9/29/2009 12:22:46 PM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


1 down load the latest combo update from apple



2 start the MB from a fire wire drive



3 install the update.



9 times out of 10 that will work.



can you boot in single user mode



hold down command + s key while booting?



if you can type in fsck at the command prompt


I bet a permissions fix would help.



 
9/29/2009 12:24:24 PM EDT
[#7]
I think the easiest thing is being overlooked.  Reset the pram.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379

Resetting PRAM and NVRAM
Shut down the computer.
Locate the following keys on the keyboard: Command, Option, P, and R. You will need to hold these keys down simultaneously in step 4.
Turn on the computer.
Press and hold the Command-Option-P-R keys. You must press this key combination before the gray screen appears.
Hold the keys down until the computer restarts and you hear the startup sound for the second time.
Release the keys.
Your computer's PRAM and the NVRAM are reset to the default values. The clock settings may be reset to a default date on some models.


9/29/2009 12:25:38 PM EDT
[#8]
Crash Different.






9/29/2009 12:26:29 PM EDT
[#9]
Is the hard drive new? Is the installation of OS X fresh. If so, it can take a while, but 10 minutes seems too long. Nothing you can do except buy a PC

Try an Archive install and if that fails, backup ALL data and do an erase install. You may need to redo the windows partition in either of these cases. Does the Windows partition load ok? If not the HD may be gone to shit.
9/29/2009 12:26:44 PM EDT
[#10]



Quoted:


I think the easiest thing is being overlooked.  Reset the pram.



http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379



Resetting PRAM and NVRAM

Shut down the computer.

Locate the following keys on the keyboard: Command, Option, P, and R. You will need to hold these keys down simultaneously in step 4.

Turn on the computer.

Press and hold the Command-Option-P-R keys. You must press this key combination before the gray screen appears.

Hold the keys down until the computer restarts and you hear the startup sound for the second time.

Release the keys.

Your computer's PRAM and the NVRAM are reset to the default values. The clock settings may be reset to a default date on some models.







He already did that. 1st post.




 
9/29/2009 12:27:07 PM EDT
[#11]
Sounds like an update was only installed halfway.
 



Put the OSX disk in and repair permissions, then reinstall OS X if need be.
9/29/2009 12:27:22 PM EDT
[#12]
My reading skills 4tL
9/29/2009 12:27:59 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
I think the easiest thing is being overlooked.  Reset the pram.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379

Resetting PRAM and NVRAM
Shut down the computer.
Locate the following keys on the keyboard: Command, Option, P, and R. You will need to hold these keys down simultaneously in step 4.
Turn on the computer.
Press and hold the Command-Option-P-R keys. You must press this key combination before the gray screen appears.
Hold the keys down until the computer restarts and you hear the startup sound for the second time.
Release the keys.
Your computer's PRAM and the NVRAM are reset to the default values. The clock settings may be reset to a default date on some models.



I have reset PRAM and SMC also with no luck.


I think you may have overlooked something simple as well, reading

ETA: Beat me to it shizrade. These damn forums move to fast
9/29/2009 1:23:57 PM EDT
[#14]
well windows is installed on it and screwed up the mac install.
9/29/2009 1:26:01 PM EDT
[#15]
Spoke to her for a moment.  She has "a lot" of room left on the HD.  The last update she did was for iTune earlier today with no issues.  She installed Quicktime with no issues.  Computer wouldn't wake up when she opened it at the beginning of class, then she restarted it, and here we are.
9/29/2009 1:53:49 PM EDT
[#16]
if my above suggestion does not work you can use Disk Warrior.

its not free but it beats losing all of her files.

saved a lot of folks at my work from losing data when there HD had bad sectors. (if it can't fix the directory, you can still copy her user folder to a external disk)

does she have a recent backup?
9/29/2009 2:31:53 PM EDT
[#17]
have you run the mac diagnostics from the cd?
9/29/2009 2:37:16 PM EDT
[#18]
I haven't been able to work on it past what I've already described because I am still at school.  In class, even.  I'll work on it tonight.
9/29/2009 2:51:52 PM EDT
[#19]
before doing anything else, make sure it will boot from the system dvd or os x dvd. use disk utility to verify the structure of the internal hd.



most of the time the non-start is related to file corruption or directory damage.