Posted: 1/21/2002 9:55:52 PM EDT
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Is it true that a bumble bee is aerodynamically incapable of flight but doesn't know it so he flies anyway? It is a logical fallacy for if he is truly incapable of flight, he cannot fly. I'm serious. [thinking] [whacko] |
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Lets test this theory. Beekeeper, go outside and tap one of your bees on the shoulder, let him know that WE at AR15, know that he is incabable of flight. He should drop like a stone. Is it true that if a tree falls in the woods, and nobody is around to hear it.....you know the rest |
| IIRC, a group at MIT fed all the info and dimentions of the Bumble Bee into a computer, and the read-out came back with the conlcusion that the wings weren't capable of keeping the bees in flight. If this is true, the one that chased me down and stung my beind the ear obviously hadn't read the report. |
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Quoted: IIRC, a group at MIT fed all the info and dimentions of the Bumble Bee into a computer, and the read-out came back with the conlcusion that the wings weren't capable of keeping the bees in flight. If this is true, the one that chased me down and stung my beind the ear obviously hadn't read the report. You were stung by a Bumble Bee? They are very friendly, as bees go. I never have a problem with them. |
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Quoted: IIRC, a group at MIT fed all the info and dimentions of the Bumble Bee into a computer, and the read-out came back with the conlcusion that the wings weren't capable of keeping the bees in flight. If this is true, the one that chased me down and stung my beind the ear obviously hadn't read the report. Makes me think that the MIT folks are mising something, or there is some unknown aspect of aerodynamics with respect to the humble bumble that we don't fully understand. Is it possible to overcome the laws of physics through sheer will power? If so, I believe I can fly...I believe...I believe.... |
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Old, OLD, [red]OLD[/red] story. Think about the advances made in aerodynamics in the last thirty years. Then decide whether, in the 1960's, they would have thought that the F117A Stealth could fly. You want "can't possibly fly" stories, take a look at this one: [url]http://www.oz.net/~justice/dogfight.html[/url] |
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Is it true that a bumble bee is aerodynamically incapable of flight but doesn't know it so he flies anyway? It is a logical fallacy for if he is truly incapable of flight, he cannot fly. I'm serious. OLD Idea. New study shows how and why They fly. In simple terms : The wing's movements generate lift in a different way than a bird or airplane wing does. No magic here.... Tall Shadow |
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As I understand it, the "bumblebees can't fly" theory was based on an erroneous assumption. When they filmed bumblebees in flight they found that the wings aren't used to generate lift only on the "downstroke" as most birds do it, but in both forward and reverse motion like a swimmer treads water - thus nearly doubling the effective lift. And Huey's don't fly, Aviator: They vibrate so bad the earth rejects them. [:D] |
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Quoted: Quoted: IIRC, a group at MIT fed all the info and dimentions of the Bumble Bee into a computer, and the read-out came back with the conlcusion that the wings weren't capable of keeping the bees in flight. If this is true, the one that chased me down and stung my beind the ear obviously hadn't read the report. You were stung by a Bumble Bee? They are very friendly, as bees go. I never have a problem with them. Well...yes and no. Many years ago, while on a training op at Camp Pendleton, I was part of a small unit setting a 'bush up. At the time, it was about 1730 and we were laying low...doing nothing more than staying hidden and silent. The plan was to whack the bad guys right at chow (Which we did VERY successfully...but that's another story!) Anyway...as I'm laying there on my belly...being real silent I look down and there's this real big black bumble bee-looking critter who has landed on my arm and is mightly trying to sting me through my BDUs. I was freaking terrified! Not too much of the bug...but that if he got me I'd make some noise. I had my rifle in my left hand, and the position I was in would have required me to move too much to get the bug off...so I whispered to my parter next to me on my right...he looked and I said, "Get it OFF!" He made one swift, silent swipe of his hand and bug gone! I'll give it to that bee...he was a persistant dude. He just kept on trying to shove the big stinger into me. (Edited because I can't remove my head from my rectal orifice far enough to figure this out!) |
| For the longest time that was true. Arenautical enginneers could sit down with and with a pencil and calculator could prove that a bee could not fly. A few years ago MIT did wind tunnel testing to detrimine how it could fly. What we figured out was that the wings of a bee create a ortex which improve the lift of the wings. |
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Quoted: went to the site you posted, [url]http://www.oz.net/~justice/dogfight.html[/url], very interesting: Next thing I did was lowering the arresting hook. Can I presume the Israeli's fly F15s off of aircraft carriers? [;)] You bring up a good question - the F-15 is an Air Force fighter not a Navy one (F/A-18 and F-14) so why is there a tail hook at all? Shorter arrested landings on damaged air fields? The second black and white photograph looks like it's taken on an aircraft carrier's elevator. And finally I don't think anyone is allowed to land on a US Navy aircraft carrier other than US pilots. At least I haven't seen it done in my years. |
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Quoted: IIRC, a group at MIT fed all the info and dimentions of the Bumble Bee into a computer, and the read-out came back with the conlcusion that the wings weren't capable of keeping the bees in flight. If this is true, the one that chased me down and stung my beind the ear obviously hadn't read the report. Is this the same computer that they use to predict Global Warming? |