[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Prostitution (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 1/15/2003 12:58:30 AM EDT
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How do you all feel about legalizing prostitution? Nevada has legalized prostitution and IMO its one of the best states in the union (not just cause of the prostitutes lol). Of course not everyone would like living around brothels. Sure some might see it as a moral degredation of America's vlues. Look at it from this perspective however. A woman can have guys lined up around the block waiting to have sex with her but if any of them leaves a dolar bill on the nitestand its suddenly a crime. If it was legalized the gov't could impose regulations such as mandatory STD/drug tests every week or however often. They could tax the income of both the women and the brothels. So what is everyones opinion on this subjest? |
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Marriage and dating is a form of prostitution. As for prostitution, if you pay cash, at least you know exactly how much you are gonna spend... At least if they legalized it, then they could put regulations on it, like they do in Nevada. It would make the world a safer place, and happier... |
| I would like to change my vote from "YES" to "Only in certain areas". The reason: I don't feel that democratic states should benefit from this type of activity. If they all vote republican, then they can have them! Once they turn democrat-- they must be shut down! |
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Quoted: Sellin is legal, Fucking is legal, So whats wrong with selling fucking. We give medal to soldiers for killing. but give someone an orgasm and you give them a buck fo it your going to jail. But if you give them somethng other than cash, such as dinner, movie, jewelry, etc., then its legal... hehe |
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I've lived in NV my whole life and except for one house (that I know of) the houses are mostly clean and honest places. That house's owner is long gone and the house has been cleaned up. And another the Mustang Ranch is closed and that is not a good thing for that area (though the former owner had his own challenges). The "girls" vary from very young 18 year olds to very mature ladies and most find it rewarding in one way or another. They go from really ugly to really beautiful. They hate vulgarity as a rule and expect you to honor the situation as a straightforward business deal. Profanity is not usual in the houses as the girls many times find it a sign of a uncaring customer. The roughest miner is expected to behave as well as the tourist. I knew the Drs son in Lincoln county and he used to go with his old man (he's now a DR in 'Vegas) when the ladies got their health checks (now there is an interesting way to encourage your kid to become a Dr). Lincoln banned them a while bakc but the trip to the Lincoln county line from Vegas was one made by many a Vegas football team (and many debate teams too) over the years. IF someone gets nasty with a girl the desert is a handy place to kick the hell out of that customer and so customers are well mannered and are as well rewarded as the staff is. All in all they are clean and mannerly places where some "socializing" can be done. Junkies are not tolerated and drugs are frowned upon. BUT some of the girls are there to because their men are (forcing is not the right word) coercing them to keep with the work. BUT an unhappy girl does not make money and so is not tolerated long by the owner who does not need a sour-puss (yeah, I know) screwing around (uh, huh) with their business... |
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You reckon they had whore houses in Sodom and Gomorrah? 'Cause that appears to be where we are slouching off to nowadays! I know that they had plenty of whore houses in Rome, at least during the decline of that empire. I suppose that we should expect the same whore houses in our decline as a nation, as well. It gave the Romans something to distract them from the failure of their Republic, and the loss of their empire. Is that what we should be looking for, as well? A distraction? Yes, better a distraction, than the moral effort it takes to remain decent and upstanding in character. It's a warm and cheerful thought to know that all of the servicemen and women who have fought and died to make this nation the great and shining city on a hill that it once was, did not realize that their sacrifice was for the purpose of maintaining houses of prostitution for their granddaughters to work in and the grandsons to frequent. We may still be that City of Light on a Hill, but the light will be [b][red]red[/red]![/b] My brothers, think about what you are asking for in legalizing prostitution. It is not about [b]freedom[/b], do not delude yourselves. For anyone to use the word [b]'freedom'[/b] in connection with the subject of prostitution is blasphemous! I don't think that such a person understands that word or concept in the least. What you are talking about is [b]license[/b], not [b]freedom[/b]. As Bill Clinton infamously made 'oral sex' a phrase that every parent had to prematurely explain to their as-yet-too-innocent children, we will have the same sad duty to explain what a house of prostitution is as well. All I can say is, for those who are raising their children nowadays and attempting to instill in them good and decent moral characters, they sure have their work cut out for them! With all the movies, television, etc., that are constantly barraging the children with thoughts, words, sights, and such, thoroughly unsavory in every aspect, the parents will now have to deal with the issue of prostitution. [b]America, Go To Hell![/b] Eric The('PackItIn,We'reLeaving!'SaysTheLord)Hun[>]:)] |
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Prostitution exists whether its legal or not (duh) so its not unfair to say its something parents should have to talk about to their kids anyway. License versus freedom is a point of view as far as im concerned. Yeah its license because it would be made legal and the govt would be taxing it thus giving women "license" to be a whore. On the other hand its that womens choice via her freedom to make a living any way she chooses. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Sellin is legal, Fucking is legal, So whats wrong with selling fucking. We give medal to soldiers for killing. but give someone an orgasm and you give them a buck fo it your going to jail. Carlin? Close.. lmao... Carlin's version is "Selling is legal, F**king is legal, So why isn't selling f**king legal?" [LOL][LOL][LOL] |
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Post from CerebralAssassin - Prostitution exists whether its legal or not (duh) so its not unfair to say its something parents should have to talk about to their kids anyway. There are lots of hideous things that exist in this world, legal or not, and the parents [u]should[/u] have to discuss these matters with them...all in due course. It is better, however, to lessen the number of hideous things that parents need to discuss with their children, not increase that number. License versus freedom is a point of view as far as im concerned. I thought that 'points of view' is precisely what we were discussing. I have read yours, you have read mine. Thank you. I guess. Yeah its license because it would be made legal and the govt would be taxing it thus giving women "license" to be a whore. That is one meaning of the word, 'license', but that is not the sense in which I used the word. I used the word in the sense of 'false freedom that allows or is used with irresponsibility and a disregard for standards of personal conduct.' That sort of license should never be confused with the freedom that we enjoy, at least so far, in this country. On the other hand its that womens choice via her freedom to make a living any way she chooses. 'Any way she chooses'? Surely you cannot mean that a woman has the right to make a living 'any way she chooses', right? There must be some limitations, of course, right? She can't be a brain surgeon, unless she attends and graduates from med school, etc., right? So there are some limitations on her rights, eh? Well, screwing for money is another! [:D] Eric The(HaveYouSeenTheBossierStrip?)Hun[>]:)] |
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The turning away from Christian precepts upon which this nation was founded ..is to tear away America's heart and soul... The legalization of vice..is the affirmation of licentiousness.. America under such conditions will cease to exist...this ushers in the police state and the surrendering of all freedom to a despot... America was created under the notion that each man carried God's law in his own heart and would teach this to his children.. man could live in freedom because each man could be expected to live within the confines of rules because it was incumbent upon him do so ...his committment to God and God's rules..was written on his heart. The Freedom Americans enjoy is because of this....when this ceases to be so...then America will become another third world sewer...a nation of peasants whose lives have little meaning other than their own pleaure and physical gratification... When a man doesnt impose law upon himself ..it will be imposed upon him from the outside...the worse a society gets...the greater the outside imposition.... Freedom is not for a degraded people...who cannot handle it... |
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I'm with those who have voted "no". We as a nation need to aspire to a higher morality. We were founded on Christian principals of self control. To succumb to our base desires and make them the legal accepted norm would just add water to the already slippery slope that we find ourselves on Many things contribute to the fall of nations. A lack of morality and selfcontrol are high on the list. |
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Quoted: Post from CerebralAssassin - Prostitution exists whether its legal or not (duh) so its not unfair to say its something parents should have to talk about to their kids anyway. There are lots of hideous things that exist in this world, legal or not, and the parents [u]should[/u] have to discuss these matters with them...all in due course. It is better, however, to lessen the number of hideous things that parents need to discuss with their children, not increase that number. License versus freedom is a point of view as far as im concerned. I thought that 'points of view' is precisely what we were discussing. I have read yours, you have read mine. Thank you. I guess. Yeah its license because it would be made legal and the govt would be taxing it thus giving women "license" to be a whore. That is one meaning of the word, 'license', but that is not the sense in which I used the word. I used the word in the sense of 'false freedom that allows or is used with irresponsibility and a disregard for standards of personal conduct.' That sort of license should never be confused with the freedom that we enjoy, at least so far, in this country. On the other hand its that womens choice via her freedom to make a living any way she chooses. 'Any way she chooses'? Surely you cannot mean that a woman has the right to make a living 'any way she chooses', right? There must be some limitations, of course, right? She can't be a brain surgeon, unless she attends and graduates from med school, etc., right? So there are some limitations on her rights, eh? Well, screwing for money is another! [:D] Eric The(HaveYouSeenTheBossierStrip?)Hun[>]:)] First off Bossier Sucks lol Secondly yeah there have to be restrictions. Cant be illegal thats about it. Needing a license to practice medicine is more of a prerquisite not a restriction. Yeah I know POV was what we were talking about, just reiterating to keep things friendly :) |
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'Hate' is such a terrible word. Wait till it snows there, you will 'hate' it even worse! [:D] And don't give me that BS about how Louisiana drivers can't drive in the snow and ice like you Yankees! We've seen the film from y'all's weather channels and it looks as if y'all are every bit as goofy as we are in the ice and snow! And y'all are supposed to be prepared for it! Eric The(Laughing)Hun[>]:)] |
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Since I grew up in Nevada, about six miles from the Mustang Ranch, I totally support the idea of legalized prostitution. Most of my childhood friends were taken to a brothel on their "first hunting trip with dad". Regulated and monitored as it is there, there are no problems with drugs or disease at these places. As far as a moral issue, well, if you don't wanna go, don't. It is the world's oldest profession, so anyone that believes it can be eradicated is mistaken. Might as well legalize it and just monitor and regulate it. My Two Cents... |
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It is not the world's oldest profession! [b]Lawyers[/b] are the world's oldest profession! What you don't believe me? Read your Bible! Genesis, Chapter 1, Verse 2: [b]And the earth was without form, and void[/b] Just who the Hell do you think created that chaos? Eric The(IRestMyCase)Hun[>]:)] |
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In the words of George Carlin: Why should it be illegal to sell something that is perfectly legal to give away? It is always going to occur, wheather or not your wish to spend lots of money and resources (police efforts) trying to prevent it. Instead, make it contribute. Zone it, tax it, and make it relatively safe (with mandatory disease screening). Is it really any worse than the government selling you booze? Allowing you to gamble? Etc? Let's focus our resources and money on real crimes. |
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In Germany, prostitution is also legal - but it is strictly regulation with medical checks. US GI's occasionally get STD's from "bar girls" there - you know the loose women who hang by the gate to EVERY US military installation. Prostitutes are safer then many of the local women there - sad, but the honest truth. There will always be some promiscous people willing to do just about anything for $50 or a free beer - might as well regulate it with medical checks. I don't believe Germany has much of a rape problem either. Its interesting that up until the end of the French Indo-China war in Vietnam, the French Army still had its "Bordello De Campaigne" - translated in English this means "Mobile Field Brothel. No joke - many foreign nationals from French Territories and native born French women would join this organization to "serve" their country.. and the money. There are actual records of these prostitutes fighting alongside French soldiers in that grimmy place called Vietnam. A good reference on this is the book "Street Without Joy" by Bernard Fall which details the French failures in Indochina. |
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Quoted: It destroys lives and breaks up families. But it should be legal anyway. Married people shouldn't visit these places without the consent of their spouse. That's their own problem. They need to have some self control. This problem exists in other ways besides prostitution: i.e. mistresses. How does it affect single people? It helps them out... hehe |
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Yes, this is a vice that can be legalized, regulated, taxed, and zoned safely. People are not going to bend their cars around light poles or plow their vehicle into a innocent person at a intersecton after spending a afternoon or a evening with a prostitute. Like they would from a hash bar-and for that matter like they do from establishments that sell liquor right now... |
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Quoted: The turning away from Christian precepts upon which this nation was founded ..is to tear away America's heart and soul... The legalization of vice..is the affirmation of licentiousness.. America under such conditions will cease to exist...this ushers in the police state and the surrendering of all freedom to a despot... America was created under the notion that each man carried God's law in his own heart and would teach this to his children.. man could live in freedom because each man could be expected to live within the confines of rules because it was incumbent upon him do so ...his committment to God and God's rules..was written on his heart. The Freedom Americans enjoy is because of this....when this ceases to be so...then America will become another third world sewer...a nation of peasants whose lives have little meaning other than their own pleaure and physical gratification... When a man doesnt impose law upon himself ..it will be imposed upon him from the outside...the worse a society gets...the greater the outside imposition.... Freedom is not for a degraded people...who cannot handle it... Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of [red]religion[/red], or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. |
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Quoted: Quoted: It destroys lives and breaks up families. I couldn't disagree more. How many prostiturtes do you know who live healthy happy lives? I've met a few hundred who are drug addicted and disease ridden. Story is usually the same. Started selling it to pay the rent, tuition, clothes. Started using drugs to help forget you're a whore. Get Hep or HIV from a infected needle, Die young. I think it should be legal because people are ultimately responsible for their actions. But it does destroy lives. But for people who's entire exposure to Prostitutes is a float to PI and an HBO special, I can see how you would see it different. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It destroys lives and breaks up families. I couldn't disagree more. How many prostiturtes do you know who live healthy happy lives? I've met a few hundred who are drug addicted and disease ridden. Story is usually the same. Started selling it to pay the rent, tuition, clothes. Started using drugs to help forget you're a whore. Get Hep or HIV from a infected needle, Die young. I think it should be legal because people are ultimately responsible for their actions. But it does destroy lives. But for people who's entire exposure to Prostitutes is a float to PI and an HBO special, I can see how you would see it different. Only in America dude. That is a cultural thing and caused in no small way by our anti prostitution laws. A licensed prostitute, like they have in Nevada or in the Netherlands, cannot be a IV drug user or practice unsafe sex. They will loose their license. The people you are talking about are hoe's because of drugs or stupidity-not because they are prostitutes- and now how have no other way to support themselves... For that reason also, legalizing prostitution will not eliminate street corner ho's as they will always be able to under price the women who have to go to the doctor every month and have to force their johns to wear condoms and not practice anything kinky or violent. |
[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Prostitution (Page 1 of 2)
