[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Public execution (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 9/26/2009 5:08:14 PM EDT
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My belief is that public execution should be brought back. If you are convicted of an offense that warrants capital punishment, then you should be executed in public so all can take heed. Agree or not? What sayeth ARFCOM? |
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I would add that if someone thst had a family member murdered by the condemned, they have to option to carry out the execution if they choose to. Uh no. That's extrajudicial. It's just based on vengence and gritty emotions. I'd be a fan if the death sentence was crucifixion |
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Yeah agree, We need to be more like China. Mobile execution vans? We should also expand upon crimes like political dissent etc. to include the death penalty. http://www.shanghaiist.com/attachments/shang_peijin/deathpenaltyexecutionchinashanghaiist.jpg 
silly, there would still be the rule of law, trial by jury, and the apiels (spelling) process. |
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That makes us no more civilized than the taliban executing people in a soccer stadium +1 Public executions also cheapen human life. A paedophile isn't worth a pile of dogshit to me.... Strap him to a board while still alive and put him in a walk in freezer with a webcam.... Next day, take the body, feed it through a wood chipper and add it to a compost heap. |
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Quoted: Quoted: That makes us no more civilized than the taliban executing people in a soccer stadium +1 Public executions also cheapen human life. The death penalty does NOT deter crime, it is merely society's retribution on heinous criminals, if the average citizen ever saw an execution, we would see executions stopped. So, no I don't think they should be public. Oh, and I do support the death penalty. |
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I'm all for it in principle, but it would just cause more problems, imo. Every time they put down some POS gangbanger their "boys" would try to rescue them. Great!!! So we could have a mass execution and get many of those punk ass bastages off the street in one go. I like it! |
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That makes us no more civilized than the taliban executing people in a soccer stadium +1 Public executions also cheapen human life. The death penalty does NOT deter crime, it is merely society's retribution on heinous criminals, if the average citizen ever saw an execution, we would see executions stopped. So, no I don't think they should be public. Oh, and I do support the death penalty. Funny, I heard a study that for every one murderer that is exicuted, 28 people are saved. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Yeah agree, We need to be more like China. Mobile execution vans? We should also expand upon crimes like political dissent etc. to include the death penalty. http://www.shanghaiist.com/attachments/shang_peijin/deathpenaltyexecutionchinashanghaiist.jpg silly, there would still be the rule of law, trial by jury, and the apiels (spelling) process. Like cruel and unusual punishment? |
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People don't realize it, but we did that in the not too distant past. Heck, one of the courthouses up in the panhandle still has a folding gallows alongside the jail. (Dickens county)
Further, executions were carried out at the COUNTY level. I think the state only took over executons in Texas with the advent of the electric chair sometime in the early 40's. |
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That makes us no more civilized than the taliban executing people in a soccer stadium Except they execute innocent people or people just based on religious beliefs and such, in America I'm guessing we're talking about cases of heinous crimes where there's 100% certainty of the accuses individuals guilt. It would actually be more civil in that it would be a much bigger deterrent to crimes. |
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Quoted: Yeah agree, We need to be more like China. Mobile execution vans? We should also expand upon crimes like political dissent etc. to include the death penalty. http://www.shanghaiist.com/attachments/shang_peijin/deathpenaltyexecutionchinashanghaiist.jpg Are you advocating the execution of ARFCOM?  |
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That makes us no more civilized than the taliban executing people in a soccer stadium +1 Public executions also cheapen human life. The death penalty does NOT deter crime, it is merely society's retribution on heinous criminals, if the average citizen ever saw an execution, we would see executions stopped. So, no I don't think they should be public. Oh, and I do support the death penalty. and the limited time most criminals know they'll likely get in our country club prison system does deter crime? |
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Yeah agree, We need to be more like China. Mobile execution vans? We should also expand upon crimes like political dissent etc. to include the death penalty. http://www.shanghaiist.com/attachments/shang_peijin/deathpenaltyexecutionchinashanghaiist.jpg Are you advocating the execution of ARFCOM?
I have to agree with that concern though. |
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My belief is that public execution should be brought back. If you are convicted of an offense that warrants capital punishment, then you should be executed in public so all can take heed.
Agree or not? What sayeth ARFCOM? Only for people who post "Cool Story Bro" or any of its variants or permutations. |
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The death penalty does NOT deter crime, it is merely society's retribution on heinous criminals, if the average citizen ever saw an execution, we would see executions stopped. So, no I don't think they should be public. Oh, and I do support the death penalty. Considering the fact that most crimes are carried out by career criminals that have already served time more than once, the death penalty is the ONLY penalty that actually deters crime. I mean, let's face it - how many times can a person come back from the dead to commit another crime? |
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1) Just stirs public emotion against it and gives the anti-death penatly people ammunition. 2) Accomplishes nothing. States with the DP don't have lower crime rates. 3) Not something we need some mentally unbalanced people seeing. It just cheapens life. So yes, I'm for the DP. Kill them, but do it in private. We don't need to be showing it in soccer stadiums like those assholes in Saudi Arabia. |
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Yeah agree, We need to be more like China. Mobile execution vans? We should also expand upon crimes like political dissent etc. to include the death penalty. http://www.shanghaiist.com/attachments/shang_peijin/deathpenaltyexecutionchinashanghaiist.jpg
silly, there would still be the rule of law, trial by jury, and the apiels (spelling) process. Like cruel and unusual punishment? What's so unusual about executions...been doing it for thousands of years... Even flogging was an accepted punishment less than 50 years ago... Prison could be thought of as pretty cruel...but America more or less invented the concept of prisons....and the world copied it.... Cruel and unusual is something like pouring molten lead down your throat or the dunking stool.... |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That makes us no more civilized than the taliban executing people in a soccer stadium +1 Public executions also cheapen human life. The death penalty does NOT deter crime, it is merely society's retribution on heinous criminals, if the average citizen ever saw an execution, we would see executions stopped. So, no I don't think they should be public. Oh, and I do support the death penalty. Funny, I heard a study that for every one murderer that is exicuted, 28 people are saved. Cite? |
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Seriously, it doesn't exactly deter people in China, Saudi Arabia, or Iran, why would it deter people here? Kiddy Diddler rapes your 3 year old daughter... Goes to prison...gets out...gets a hardon....goes to public park... Kidnaps a two year old and rapes her.... If Kiddy Diddler had a bullet placed in the back of his head at high speed for his first offence, he would have never committed the second.... Deterrent enough for me.... |
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Quoted: Quoted: I have to agree with that concern though.Quoted: Are you advocating the execution of ARFCOM? Yeah agree, We need to be more like China. Mobile execution vans? We should also expand upon crimes like political dissent etc. to include the death penalty. http://www.shanghaiist.com/attachments/shang_peijin/deathpenaltyexecutionchinashanghaiist.jpg So do I.  |
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Quoted: Quoted: Seriously, it doesn't exactly deter people in China, Saudi Arabia, or Iran, why would it deter people here? Kiddy Diddler rapes your 3 year old daughter... Goes to prison...gets out...gets a hardon....goes to public park... Kidnaps a two year old and rapes her.... If Kiddy Diddler had a bullet placed in the back of his head at high speed for his first offence, he would have never committed the second.... Deterrent enough for me.... Exactly. Dead people can't rape little kids. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Seriously, it doesn't exactly deter people in China, Saudi Arabia, or Iran, why would it deter people here? Kiddy Diddler rapes your 3 year old daughter... Goes to prison...gets out...gets a hardon....goes to public park... Kidnaps a two year old and rapes her.... If Kiddy Diddler had a bullet placed in the back of his head at high speed for his first offence, he would have never committed the second.... Deterrent enough for me.... Exactly. Dead people can't rape little kids. |
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Seriously, it doesn't exactly deter people in China, Saudi Arabia, or Iran, why would it deter people here? Kiddy Diddler rapes your 3 year old daughter... Goes to prison...gets out...gets a hardon....goes to public park... Kidnaps a two year old and rapes her.... If Kiddy Diddler had a bullet placed in the back of his head at high speed for his first offence, he would have never committed the second.... Deterrent enough for me.... If we kicked out the drug possession criminals - real monsters would stay in longer. I am for the idea of capital punishment, but too often it is used as a tool to leverage a confession. There is also no evidence that it deters crime. |
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Quoted: Quoted: If we kicked out the drug possession criminals - real monsters would stay in longer.Quoted: Kiddy Diddler rapes your 3 year old daughter...Seriously, it doesn't exactly deter people in China, Saudi Arabia, or Iran, why would it deter people here? Goes to prison...gets out...gets a hardon....goes to public park... Kidnaps a two year old and rapes her.... If Kiddy Diddler had a bullet placed in the back of his head at high speed for his first offence, he would have never committed the second.... Deterrent enough for me.... I am for the idea of capital punishment, but too often it is used as a tool to leverage a confession. There is also no evidence that it deters crime. I also think that the standard of proof might be too low for something as permanent as death. I would like to see "beyond any and all doubt" replace "beyond a reasonable doubt" for capital cases. |
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About 25 years ago some terrorists in the Mideast kidnapped a Russian embassy official and tried to hold him for ransom.
The Russian government refused to pay the ransom. Told the terrorists to fuck off. The terrorists then promptly killed the hostage, and dumped his body in the street near the Russian embassy. Now we all know the various ways things like that have been handled by the U.S. government when they have happened to American hostages in the past. But let me tell you how the Russians handled this. Their approach is a little different than the usual "diplomatic protests" and what not that we usually use. It seems that the KGB got busy looking for the terrorists who had kidnapped their man, and captured some of them. They also knew where the building was that the terrorists were working out of. A few days later a van drove slowly past the building where the terrorists were, and dropped a few heavy sacks onto the sidewalk in front of the building. An anonymous phone call was simultaneously placed to the terrorists in the building, telling them to go look in the sacks outside. When the terrorists opened the sacks, they found the bodies of their friends inside them. The Russians had taken them, chopped their balls off, stuffed their balls into their mouths, sewed their mouths shut, and shot them in the head, not necessarily in that order. Think the terrorists fucked with the Russians again after that? Nope. They never messed with the Russians again. Imagine that! The death penalty DOES deter crime sometimes. You just have to use it correctly. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Seriously, it doesn't exactly deter people in China, Saudi Arabia, or Iran, why would it deter people here? Kiddy Diddler rapes your 3 year old daughter... Goes to prison...gets out...gets a hardon....goes to public park... Kidnaps a two year old and rapes her.... If Kiddy Diddler had a bullet placed in the back of his head at high speed for his first offence, he would have never committed the second.... Deterrent enough for me.... Exactly. Dead people can't rape little kids. Clearly the understanding of deterrent you hold is different from mine. Especially considering every bit of research to date shows no deterrent value to much of any form of punishment. |
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Quoted: About 25 years ago some terrorists in the Mideast kidnapped a Russian embassy official and tried to hold him for ransom. The Russian government refused to pay the ransom. Told the terrorists to fuck off. The terrorists then promptly killed the hostage, and dumped his body in the street near the Russian embassy. Now we all know the various ways things like that have been handled by the U.S. government when they have happened to American hostages in the past. But let me tell you how the Russians handled this. Their approach is a little different than the usual "diplomatic protests" and what not that we usually use. It seems that the KGB got busy looking for the terrorists who had kidnapped their man, and captured some of them. They also knew where the building was that the terrorists were working out of. A few days later a van drove slowly past the building where the terrorists were, and dropped a few heavy sacks onto the sidewalk in front of the building. An anonymous phone call was simultaneously placed to the terrorists in the building, telling them to go look in the sacks outside. When the terrorists opened the sacks, they found the bodies of their friends inside them. The Russians had taken them, chopped their balls off, stuffed their balls into their mouths, sewed their mouths shut, and shot them in the head, not necessarily in that order. Think the terrorists fucked with the Russians again after that? Nope. They never messed with the Russians again. Imagine that! The death penalty DOES deter crime sometimes. You just have to use it correctly. The Russians sure don't fuck around do they?  |
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Quoted: That makes us no more civilized than the taliban executing people in a soccer stadium Except that we gather evidence, have a trial, let them argue their case, give them more chances if they lose. Oh, and we also don't execute gays, innocent women, and anyone with a different opinion. But your right, other than that we'd be exactly like them. |
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Quoted: Quoted: About 25 years ago some terrorists in the Mideast kidnapped a Russian embassy official and tried to hold him for ransom. The Russian government refused to pay the ransom. Told the terrorists to fuck off. The terrorists then promptly killed the hostage, and dumped his body in the street near the Russian embassy. Now we all know the various ways things like that have been handled by the U.S. government when they have happened to American hostages in the past. But let me tell you how the Russians handled this. Their approach is a little different than the usual "diplomatic protests" and what not that we usually use. It seems that the KGB got busy looking for the terrorists who had kidnapped their man, and captured some of them. They also knew where the building was that the terrorists were working out of. A few days later a van drove slowly past the building where the terrorists were, and dropped a few heavy sacks onto the sidewalk in front of the building. An anonymous phone call was simultaneously placed to the terrorists in the building, telling them to go look in the sacks outside. When the terrorists opened the sacks, they found the bodies of their friends inside them. The Russians had taken them, chopped their balls off, stuffed their balls into their mouths, sewed their mouths shut, and shot them in the head, not necessarily in that order. Think the terrorists fucked with the Russians again after that? Nope. They never messed with the Russians again. Imagine that! The death penalty DOES deter crime sometimes. You just have to use it correctly. The Russians sure don't fuck around do they? It was the axe throwing back flip that did it. |