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Posted: 9/22/2024 11:39:46 PM EST
QIDI released their X-Plus 4 printer.

I have an X-Plus 3 and it looks like they addressed several things from it. Now has a larger bed, better chamber heater fan, larger belts, integrated web cam, and a new hotend design. The new hotend looks like it's longer than a volcano hotend, but now using proprietary nozzle not just a shortened V6 volcano nozzle as their current version.

In 2025 it will be compatible with their own AMS system.

https://qidi3d.com/products/plus4-3d-printer?variant=43379804766348

The All New QIDI PLUS4 - the best value to performance printer on the market
Link Posted: 9/23/2024 4:35:18 AM EST
[#1]
I have one on order.  I plan to exclusively print engineering type filaments like ASA, PA6-CF, PA12-CF, PPA-CF, etc. in it and save my P1S for everything else.
Link Posted: 9/24/2024 10:39:28 AM EST
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Originally Posted By chevrofreak:
I have one on order.  I plan to exclusively print engineering type filaments like ASA, PA6-CF, PA12-CF, PPA-CF, etc. in it and save my P1S for everything else.
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It should be here Thursday, woohoo!
Link Posted: 9/24/2024 7:56:02 PM EST
[#3]
I like to hear what folks here think, as opposed to the reviewers on Youtube
Link Posted: 9/25/2024 6:10:48 AM EST
[#4]
I have heard it is not completely open source. It has a modified version of klipper and installing real Klipper breaks a few things.
Link Posted: 9/25/2024 11:45:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: Alien] [#5]
Order placed. This will be my first 3D printer.

NEW QIDI PLUS4 - Maybe the PERFECT 3D Printer!

WARNING Don't Buy QIDI 4 Plus Until You Watch This

Link Posted: 9/25/2024 11:56:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: Keekleberrys] [#6]
Link Posted: 9/26/2024 12:28:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Keekleberrys:
Originally Posted By Alien:
my first 3D printer.



https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12422/fc878b00-a7af-436f-af87-af8ccb6ecd92_102-3219692.jpg
Can you do a photogrammetry model of your junk so I can print one to have at home?
Link Posted: 9/27/2024 4:04:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: Alien] [#8]
My printer shipped this morning and should be here by Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday. I ordered 3 1kg rolls of PLA Pro filament from Amazon.

Polymaker PLA PRO Filament Dark Grey, Powerful 1.75mm 3D Printer Filament 1kg - PolyLite PLA Filament PRO Tough & High Rigidity 3D Printing
https://a.co/d/4mfKGze

Link Posted: 9/28/2024 5:09:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: Jack_Dempsey] [#9]
Can this print PEEK? And why would one pick this over the P1S or X1C?
Link Posted: 9/29/2024 2:47:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: Alien] [#10]
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Originally Posted By Jack_Dempsey:
Can this print PEEK? And why would one pick this over the P1S or X1C?
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I don't think the max heated chamber temperature is optimal for it, but it is capable of printing it. I was thinking how cool it would be to print stuff in peek until I saw the price of the filament.

You would want this printer if you want a larger print area and the ability to reliably print sturdier filaments like PPS-CF or other materials that require a heated chamber and higher nozzle temperature while having a similar plug and play and reliable printing experience.
Link Posted: 9/29/2024 12:14:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Alien:
My printer shipped this morning and should be here by Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday. I ordered 3 1kg rolls of PLA Pro filament from Amazon.

Polymaker PLA PRO Filament Dark Grey, Powerful 1.75mm 3D Printer Filament 1kg - PolyLite PLA Filament PRO Tough & High Rigidity 3D Printing
https://a.co/d/4mfKGze

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61Rx4sXJNBL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_FMwebp_.jpg
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Mine got delivered Thursday but I have been too busy to unpack it.   Watching some YouTube videos, it sound like we need to update these before we try using them because some bugs have been found.
Link Posted: 9/29/2024 12:26:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By chevrofreak:

Mine got delivered Thursday but I have been too busy to unpack it.   Watching some YouTube videos, it sound like we need to update these before we try using them because some bugs have been found.
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Originally Posted By chevrofreak:
Originally Posted By Alien:
My printer shipped this morning and should be here by Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday. I ordered 3 1kg rolls of PLA Pro filament from Amazon.

Polymaker PLA PRO Filament Dark Grey, Powerful 1.75mm 3D Printer Filament 1kg - PolyLite PLA Filament PRO Tough & High Rigidity 3D Printing
https://a.co/d/4mfKGze

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61Rx4sXJNBL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_FMwebp_.jpg

Mine got delivered Thursday but I have been too busy to unpack it.   Watching some YouTube videos, it sound like we need to update these before we try using them because some bugs have been found.
Yeah one of the European YouTube bros said to do the firmware update as soon as you unpack it as it fixes a bunch of issues.
Link Posted: 9/29/2024 9:44:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Jack_Dempsey:
Can this print PEEK? And why would one pick this over the P1S or X1C?
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Larger build plate.

Better interior lighting.

Longer melt zone and higher wattage heater for the nozzle.

Better nozzle wipe/cleaner process.

Heated chamber with insulation on the side panels that help keep the heat in and reduces noise. My P1S is way louder than my XPlus3 and the XPlus4 should be even quieter.

Link Posted: 9/30/2024 11:03:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By memsu:


Larger build plate.

Better interior lighting.

Longer melt zone and higher wattage heater for the nozzle.

Better nozzle wipe/cleaner process.

Heated chamber with insulation on the side panels that help keep the heat in and reduces noise. My P1S is way louder than my XPlus3 and the XPlus4 should be even quieter.

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Originally Posted By memsu:
Originally Posted By Jack_Dempsey:
Can this print PEEK? And why would one pick this over the P1S or X1C?


Larger build plate.

Better interior lighting.

Longer melt zone and higher wattage heater for the nozzle.

Better nozzle wipe/cleaner process.

Heated chamber with insulation on the side panels that help keep the heat in and reduces noise. My P1S is way louder than my XPlus3 and the XPlus4 should be even quieter.



Similar question why the Plus-4 over the X-Max3? Max 3 has heated chamber and a larger build surface.
Link Posted: 9/30/2024 10:17:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SandHillsHillbilly:


Similar question why the Plus-4 over the X-Max3? Max 3 has heated chamber and a larger build surface.
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Originally Posted By SandHillsHillbilly:
Originally Posted By memsu:
Originally Posted By Jack_Dempsey:
Can this print PEEK? And why would one pick this over the P1S or X1C?


Larger build plate.

Better interior lighting.

Longer melt zone and higher wattage heater for the nozzle.

Better nozzle wipe/cleaner process.

Heated chamber with insulation on the side panels that help keep the heat in and reduces noise. My P1S is way louder than my XPlus3 and the XPlus4 should be even quieter.



Similar question why the Plus-4 over the X-Max3? Max 3 has heated chamber and a larger build surface.


The Plus 4 has a bed sensor to automatically adjust the z offset which the Max3 doesn't.

Plus 4 is more refined overall I think with the insulated panels, glass door instead of plastic.

The biggest reason will be the Plus4 is compatible with QIDI's AMS system coming out in early 2025.
Link Posted: 9/30/2024 10:24:15 PM EST
[#16]
Hopefully there will be a Max4.
Link Posted: 10/1/2024 6:09:47 AM EST
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Originally Posted By memsu:


The Plus 4 has a bed sensor to automatically adjust the z offset which the Max3 doesn't.

Plus 4 is more refined overall I think with the insulated panels, glass door instead of plastic.

The biggest reason will be the Plus4 is compatible with QIDI's AMS system coming out in early 2025.
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Originally Posted By memsu:
Originally Posted By SandHillsHillbilly:
Originally Posted By memsu:
Originally Posted By Jack_Dempsey:
Can this print PEEK? And why would one pick this over the P1S or X1C?


Larger build plate.

Better interior lighting.

Longer melt zone and higher wattage heater for the nozzle.

Better nozzle wipe/cleaner process.

Heated chamber with insulation on the side panels that help keep the heat in and reduces noise. My P1S is way louder than my XPlus3 and the XPlus4 should be even quieter.



Similar question why the Plus-4 over the X-Max3? Max 3 has heated chamber and a larger build surface.


The Plus 4 has a bed sensor to automatically adjust the z offset which the Max3 doesn't.

Plus 4 is more refined overall I think with the insulated panels, glass door instead of plastic.

The biggest reason will be the Plus4 is compatible with QIDI's AMS system coming out in early 2025.

Do we know how much that’s going to cost?
Link Posted: 10/1/2024 2:25:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Jack_Dempsey:

Do we know how much that’s going to cost?
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Originally Posted By Jack_Dempsey:
Originally Posted By memsu:
Originally Posted By SandHillsHillbilly:
Originally Posted By memsu:
Originally Posted By Jack_Dempsey:
Can this print PEEK? And why would one pick this over the P1S or X1C?


Larger build plate.

Better interior lighting.

Longer melt zone and higher wattage heater for the nozzle.

Better nozzle wipe/cleaner process.

Heated chamber with insulation on the side panels that help keep the heat in and reduces noise. My P1S is way louder than my XPlus3 and the XPlus4 should be even quieter.



Similar question why the Plus-4 over the X-Max3? Max 3 has heated chamber and a larger build surface.


The Plus 4 has a bed sensor to automatically adjust the z offset which the Max3 doesn't.

Plus 4 is more refined overall I think with the insulated panels, glass door instead of plastic.

The biggest reason will be the Plus4 is compatible with QIDI's AMS system coming out in early 2025.

Do we know how much that’s going to cost?


I'm sure it will be similarly priced to Bambu's AMS system.

I'm really considering selling my XPlus3 to get the XPlus4.

I didn't think I'd like the Bambu AMS, but it's awesome just loading up some filament and not having to mess with it loading/unloading manually like the my current QIDI, but QIDI had some advantages over the Bambu and that's why I bought it.

Now if I can have a XPlus4 with AMS with all the features of Bambu plus some I'm definitely interested.
Link Posted: 10/2/2024 8:22:59 PM EST
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This thing is a game changer for printing ASA.  I struggled to get ASA to stay stuck to the bed in my Bambu P1S, even with a brim, and there would often be warping anyway.   I didn't use any glue at all on this, it is just printing with a 90C bed temperature and 55C chamber temp, running everything at 30mm/s and it is printing this magwell flawlessly.
Link Posted: 10/2/2024 9:42:32 PM EST
[#20]
Phenomenal quality.
Link Posted: 10/7/2024 7:05:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SandHillsHillbilly:
I have heard it is not completely open source. It has a modified version of klipper and installing real Klipper breaks a few things.
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Not sure about the new one but the X-Max 3 had an older version of Klipper. There are walkthroughs on updating it to the latest without bricking it.

Not sure what I'd gain or lose (mostly lose) by doing it so I've left well enough alone.
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