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5/3/2008 4:02:49 AM EDT
How is it not illegal?

Didn't they shut Napster down for the same thing back in 2000?

5/3/2008 4:03:27 AM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
How is it not illegal?

Didn't they shut Napster down for the same thing back in 2000?



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5/3/2008 4:05:44 AM EDT
[#2]

It's not necessarily illegal since it can be used for legal filesharing as well.
5/3/2008 4:08:05 AM EDT
[#3]
Yep - Limewire/BitTorrent/etc. is just a means of sharing data. That data can be legal, open source data...or it can be illegal.

It's up to the END USER on how they use the software = it's like trying to outlaw Xerox machines because some people use them to copy books...or outlawing cassettes (if you're old enough to remember them) because some people make copies of tapes.
5/3/2008 4:17:05 AM EDT
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Yep - Limewire/BitTorrent/etc. is just a means of sharing data. That data can be legal, open source data...or it can be illegal.

It's up to the END USER on how they use the software = it's like trying to outlaw Xerox machines because some people use them to copy books...or outlawing cassettes (if you're old enough to remember them) because some people make copies of tapes.



Makes sence.



Yep, I'm old enough to remember cassettes and even 8-track (barely).

In fact I pulled out my Wayne's World Soundtrack cassette and listened to it on the old jam box this weekend.

5/3/2008 4:23:45 AM EDT
[#5]

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How is it not illegal?

Didn't they shut Napster down for the same thing back in 2000?





IIRC, the difference between Napster and Limewire is that Napster stored the information of what each user was sharing on their servers and Limewire does not.  And that was how they were able to shut down Napster.


Vulcan94
5/3/2008 4:44:00 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
How is it not illegal?

Didn't they shut Napster down for the same thing back in 2000?





IIRC, the difference between Napster and Limewire is that Napster stored the information of what each user was sharing on their servers and Limewire does not.  And that was how they were able to shut down Napster.


Vulcan94


Kind of correct.  Files shared through napster went through napster's servers.  (NOT directly peer to peer)  Therefore, it was not difficult for Napster to look at the file names and block copywright protected things.  The court ruled napster had to screen the searches for "madonna, beatles, etc".  Napster gave up, and shut down their file sharing.

For awhile, there was a program that would change your file names from BEATLES to @Beatles, or "eatlesb" at the exact same time as anyone else using their program.  All you had to do was search for the correct changed filename.
5/3/2008 4:52:07 AM EDT
[#7]
Why mess with limewire when you can capture awesome videos such as www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4jLfCjlYD0

5/3/2008 5:56:59 AM EDT
[#8]
people still use limewire, kazaa, morpheus, winmx and the like?

Dont get me wrong- Ive still got it installed, but dont recall starting it up in a couple of years.  I kinda figured with torrents taking over the older p2p networks wouldve just fallen by the wayside
5/3/2008 6:05:13 AM EDT
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people still use limewire, kazaa, morpheus, winmx and the like?

Dont get me wrong- Ive still got it installed, but dont recall starting it up in a couple of years.  I kinda figured with torrents taking over the older p2p networks wouldve just fallen by the wayside


in my experience - Limewire is better for small files (i.e. songs) while BitTorrent is better for big files.
5/3/2008 6:06:48 AM EDT
[#10]

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people still use limewire, kazaa, morpheus, winmx and the like?

Dont get me wrong- Ive still got it installed, but dont recall starting it up in a couple of years.  I kinda figured with torrents taking over the older p2p networks wouldve just fallen by the wayside


in my experience - Limewire is better for small files (i.e. songs) while BitTorrent is better for big files.


+1
5/3/2008 6:07:38 AM EDT
[#11]

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people still use limewire, kazaa, morpheus, winmx and the like?

Dont get me wrong- Ive still got it installed, but dont recall starting it up in a couple of years.  I kinda figured with torrents taking over the older p2p networks wouldve just fallen by the wayside


in my experience - Limewire is better for small files (i.e. songs) while BitTorrent is better for big files.


Yep.

Rare that you can find a single song on a torrent tracker.

Now if you want a .rar of every album ever produced by a given band, that's another story entirely.
5/3/2008 6:38:39 AM EDT
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Yep.

Rare that you can find a single song on a torrent tracker.

Now if you want a .rar of every album ever produced by a given band, that's another story entirely.


Well you find the album the song you want is on, then, then just select the one track you want (assuming its not compressed).  But yeah I can see how that is more work than just using limewire to begin with.

5/3/2008 6:43:16 AM EDT
[#13]

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Quoted:

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people still use limewire, kazaa, morpheus, winmx and the like?

Dont get me wrong- Ive still got it installed, but dont recall starting it up in a couple of years.  I kinda figured with torrents taking over the older p2p networks wouldve just fallen by the wayside


in my experience - Limewire is better for small files (i.e. songs) while BitTorrent is better for big files.


Yep.

Rare that you can find a single song on a torrent tracker.

Now if you want a .rar of every album ever produced by a given band, that's another story entirely.


Most torrents I see aren't archived. You can just select which song you want to download.
5/3/2008 7:42:17 AM EDT
[#14]
make sure you have a good virus program! friends laptop(new sony vaio)locked the fuck up and was pretty much useless from visits to all those sites. find a good news group were the info is more safe!
5/3/2008 7:01:02 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
How is it not illegal?

Didn't they shut Napster down for the same thing back in 2000?





IIRC, the difference between Napster and Limewire is that Napster stored the information of what each user was sharing on their servers and Limewire does not.  And that was how they were able to shut down Napster.


Vulcan94


Kind of correct.  Files shared through napster went through napster's servers.  (NOT directly peer to peer)  Therefore, it was not difficult for Napster to look at the file names and block copywright protected things.  The court ruled napster had to screen the searches for "madonna, beatles, etc".  Napster gave up, and shut down their file sharing.

For awhile, there was a program that would change your file names from BEATLES to @Beatles, or "eatlesb" at the exact same time as anyone else using their program.  All you had to do was search for the correct changed filename.



Thanks for the correction.  I knew it was something like that.


Vulcan94