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7/22/2004 1:42:21 PM EDT
What is the difference between a "Tab" and a "Scroll".  There are alot of military personnel housed on the properties that I oversee.  I've seen either, or, and both on some of their uniforms.  Please enlighten me.

Thanks
7/22/2004 5:41:20 PM EDT
[#1]
The "tab" is worn by those who have completed Ranger School, over the left shoulder unit patch.



The "scroll" is an actual unit patch.

Example of 75th Ranger Regiment Scroll:



ETA:  I never was, and never will be a US Army Ranger, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
7/23/2004 9:18:25 AM EDT
[#2]
Thank You
7/23/2004 10:38:46 AM EDT
[#3]
i have a good friend who was a ranger, hurt himself in a jump, now he is a civilian, he really knows his stuff, the story on the tab is the same as what he has told me

some are just ranger qualified, but some are in a ranger unit, there is a difference
7/23/2004 4:29:20 PM EDT
[#4]
I'm not a Ranger, but the way it's been explained to me is the tab is a qualification, the scroll is a way of life.
7/23/2004 6:01:25 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
I'm not a Ranger, but the way it's been explained to me is the tab is a qualification, the scroll is a way of life.


yup
7/25/2004 11:23:48 AM EDT
[#6]
BBossman, other guys have explained it already but I'll add this to "Maybe" help a little more with understanding it.

They're are guys in the Army who've NEVER served in a Ranger Batt' who wear the tab.  These guys are graduates of the (Ranger) school.  Slots in the course are at a premium and it's (The tab)  a desireable carrer enhancement for folks regardless of MOS (It's become damn near a "Must have" for young officers along with airborne badges whether or not they ever intend to jump out of a plane again for the remainder of their careers.)  It's "Cool" to have toohe
Some Rangers (The scroll wearers) are also graduates of the Ranger school.  It's not set in stone but, most of the time those having BOTH will be E-4 or above but that doesn't mean there aren't PFC's and even a rare E-2 (Although that would be one balls-to-the-wall high-speed kid) with both.

I have alot of respect for EITHER "Ranger" but, IMHO, the Scroll means more because that guy has LIVED Ranger.




7/25/2004 6:28:32 PM EDT
[#7]
dont forget rangers that served in the bat, but never completed ranger school (we had 3 in my platoon that were peered out in ranger school).

Either way, you're still a ranger. You get the tab, you wear the scroll, either way, you're a ranger.
7/28/2004 11:50:29 AM EDT
[#8]
a former 1sg in my unit that has since retired wore the scroll as his combat patch from vietnam- he was never a ranger per se,he was an nco in the 60's and they were real short of experienced nco's so pulled him out of his position to send him with the rangers
7/28/2004 5:08:27 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
I'm not a Ranger, but the way it's been explained to me is the tab is a qualification, the scroll is a way of life.



You stole the words from my moutn, or I should say from my hands.
8/3/2004 7:57:02 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
BBossman, other guys have explained it already but I'll add this to "Maybe" help a little more with understanding it.

They're are guys in the Army who've NEVER served in a Ranger Batt' who wear the tab.  These guys are graduates of the (Ranger) school.  Slots in the course are at a premium and it's (The tab)  a desireable carrer enhancement for folks regardless of MOS (It's become damn near a "Must have" for young officers along with airborne badges whether or not they ever intend to jump out of a plane again for the remainder of their careers.)  It's "Cool" to have too

The scroll is worn by someone who's either IN (If the patch is on his left arm) a Ranger Batt' or WAS in (If on the right arm) a Ranger unit when it deployed to combat.

Some Rangers (The scroll wearers) are also graduates of the Ranger school.  It's not set in stone but, most of the time those having BOTH will be E-4 or above but that doesn't mean there aren't PFC's and even a rare E-2 (Although that would be one balls-to-the-wall high-speed kid) with both.

I have alot of respect for EITHER "Ranger" but, IMHO, the Scroll means more because that guy has LIVED Ranger.







He is very correct on most points in his post, the only thing is if you are in one of the 3 ranger batts (1/75, 2/75,3/75) you will have to attend Ranger school to be anything above team leader all Team leader and above are ranger school grads.

Look at it this way say you go to the police academy, and pass but never work as a cop. Would you tell people you are a cop?

The truth is Ranger  School is just a leadership school for the most part and they teach mostly patrolling.
What you do in a Ranger Batt is very different as far as missions.

The scroll is a way of life!  I am lucky I guess I got to wear my scroll on the right and left sleeve, and I have a mustard stain to go with it
8/3/2004 8:08:24 AM EDT
[#11]
I graduated Ranger School in 1967.   At that time it was more than just a "leadership" school.  It was damn hard.   Also, they did not have any Ranger Btn's then either.  I would have wanted to be in one if they had.

I was sent to the 1st Inf Div in Nam where I served for almot two years in combat.   I call myself a Ranger.

What it means to you and what it means to me might be two different things.    But I'm still a Ranger.   I salute all Rangers and also anyone who has ever been or is currently in combat for that's what it's really all about.

8/3/2004 10:29:42 AM EDT
[#12]
Ranger School is hard, one of the hardest in the Army as far as grad rates. But it is a "Leadership" School, The school has a focus on combat patrols and being able to lead under combat conditions, since they can not put you in combat, they do the next best thing they deprive you of sleep and food to force you to operate under stress.

True that they did not have Ranger Batts in Vietnam but they did have Ranger Companies for each major division. The Ranger Batts take there history from the Ranger Batts of old along with the old Ranger companies, it is not based off of Ranger school grads.

I am not trying to put down anyones combat service, but with that being said not everyone does the same missions during combat.