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9/26/2014 8:54:28 PM EDT
I was talking to a friend a few days back and I asked him about how his son is doing in college. The son is going to Oklahoma University to become a mech engineer. Now the part I don't understand, my friend said his son will graduate this December and then he has to sit for a six hour exam. He said to become a certified Mech engineer a person had to take the test, but it wasn't necessary to pass the test.



Now I am wondering if there wasn't something scrambled in the communications, and maybe my friend misheard or got some of the details wrong. I find it hard to believe that all you must do is take the test, but not pass it. Lawyers have to sit for the Bar exam and they must pass it.



So, can anyone fill in a few blank spots about this test?
9/26/2014 8:59:42 PM EDT
[#1]
He is taking the FE. Not required but first step towards PE
 



Eta: some schools require students to take the FE
9/26/2014 9:00:02 PM EDT
[#2]
Probably just meant that he doesn't have to pass the certification exam to graduate college, but would (naturally) have to pass in order to become certified.
9/26/2014 9:00:30 PM EDT
[#3]
Hes talking about the fundamentals of engineering exam. You do not need to pass it to graduate and have a successful engineering career.
However, you must pass it to pursue a professional engineer certification.
9/26/2014 9:02:03 PM EDT
[#4]
Maybe he meant if he didn't pass the test, he could still be a mechanical engineer, just not licensed.   He's probably taking the Engineer In Training exam - first step in the path toward being a licensed engineer.
9/26/2014 9:04:54 PM EDT
[#5]
An engineering degree can get you a good job designing things, but if you need to certify drawings (ie: stamp them and take professional responsibility) or be a Principle engineer, you need to go the extra steps of passing the FE and PE.

Yes, I have my PE in Mechanical. Unless they have changed, both tests are 8 hours. The FE is basically a rehash of your 4 years of college and the PE is a test where you bring any reference material you need, try to recall your college classes and cry in the fetal position the night after the test.
9/26/2014 9:07:13 PM EDT
[#6]
At the college where I workm taking the FE exam is a graduation requirement.  But passing it is not.

That said, taking and passing it ASAP after your Bachelor's work is the smart way to go, IMHO.  The exam covers a wide range of topics, many of which you will only be more removed from the longer you wait.
9/26/2014 9:07:26 PM EDT
[#7]
You can get the FE. But The PE Creds carry more weight.
With the PE you can pretty much do want you want to. On paper anyway.
If you cant tote the paper you wont be around long.
9/26/2014 9:13:46 PM EDT
[#8]
It's been covered.

Tell him good job.  Pass the FE, and get the PE asap.
9/26/2014 9:14:04 PM EDT
[#9]

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An engineering degree can get you a good job designing things, but if you need to certify drawings (ie: stamp them and take professional responsibility) or be a Principle engineer, you need to go the extra steps of passing the FE and PE.



Yes, I have my PE in Mechanical. Unless they have changed, both tests are 8 hours. The FE is basically a rehash of your 4 years of college and the PE is a test where you bring any reference material you need, try to recall your college classes and cry in the fetal position the night after the test.
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I am studying for the power PE currently

 
9/26/2014 9:14:32 PM EDT
[#10]
It's a worthless cert unless u want to do HVAC.

HVAC also pays the least.

ETA:
I have my PE.
9/26/2014 9:25:06 PM EDT
[#11]
It's most certainly not worthless except for HVAC. It's not nearly as commonly for ME's as it is for civil because of public work (bridges and shit). Honestly a six sigma green belt is more of a resume gem and salary booster than a PE, but it won't hurt to get one. Usually a job will have a PE as a requirement, or you don't really need one. It's not too often you get a pay bump for having one as a mechanical. Plus whatever you sign off on as a PE follows you for life not just while you're at that company.



Different states have different rules but when I graduated my prof told me that if you wanted to start a company with "engineering" in the title you had to have a PE. And it helped a lot for consulting work and if you wanted to testify as an expert witness, which can pay well. The law only recognizes PE's as "engineers". Civil guys who got jobs for the DOT had to have them.




My FE exam was 8 hours, glad I passed my first try. Then you need 4 years of work experience and you can take the PE exam which is also 8 hours.
9/26/2014 9:55:09 PM EDT
[#12]
All of the above are correct

9/26/2014 10:07:11 PM EDT
[#13]
thanks for the replies.




9/26/2014 10:08:10 PM EDT
[#14]
FE exam, used to be called EIT..engineer in training exam. Take it upon graduation, work for a while then take the PE. Outside of very specific fields, not much need for certification, but might be useful. Best to do it while reasonably fresh...wait too long and it's a pain to study up enough to take the PE.
9/26/2014 10:10:25 PM EDT
[#15]
Yup he gets to bust his ass in a long exam to earn the title of engineer in training.  
9/26/2014 10:14:11 PM EDT
[#16]
The FE is only important for certain fields within ME. It is much more important for civils. You have to be on the verge of graduation or be graduated from an ABET accredited institution to sit for the exam.

In general, PE's are necessary for things like certified government work (HVAC, nuclear, etc.) and code-related work (pressure vessel/boiler design, etc.).
9/26/2014 10:15:43 PM EDT
[#17]
Lots of companies don't care these days but you might as well take it coming out of college. If you don't actually want to use your degree for engineering might not be worth the time because you need years of industry time to sit for the PE.
9/26/2014 10:49:21 PM EDT
[#18]
That about covers is.  I had my BSME for about 6 months before I'd ever even heard of the EiT thing.
9/26/2014 10:52:58 PM EDT
[#19]
Sounds like the EIT exam.


I studied for it then chose to go away with this chick instead.


Payed off well.
9/26/2014 11:01:06 PM EDT
[#20]
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The FE is only important for certain fields within ME. It is much more important for civils. You have to be on the verge of graduation or be graduated from an ABET accredited institution to sit for the exam.

In general, PE's are necessary for things like certified government work (HVAC, nuclear, etc.) and code-related work (pressure vessel/boiler design, etc.).
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All my Aero professors said skip it

A couple of my mech professors recommended it.


I chose a hotel in Tahoe while a couple of my friends really crammed and took it