Posted: 5/16/2013 8:10:57 PM EDT
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Just had a thought, and thought I'd ask.
Say your gaurding a facility of some sort, and you observe someone trying to steal something, they ignore you when challenged. Atleast for the moment they are not threatening. What do you do/what can you do? They are not an active deadly threat, but could become one if you attempt to stop them physically. If you intervene, and later as a result have to shoot them could not a liberal prosecutor claim you started it? |
| Well first I would be pissed that they ruined my sleep and then after I got over that inconvenience I would empty the .38 of two rounds and stick them in my ears so my beauty sleep would not be disturbed further. Security guards are only supposed to observe and report, those that fancy themselves wannabe cops or soldiers of fortune tend to get themselves into deep sleep depraved hot water. |
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Just remember, your company will be the first to throw you under the bus if you shoot anyone on the clock. sure will be that being said - confront, don't threaten, if it comes down to use of force so be it but your job is to protect the company property. oh, you did call for backup right? and the cops? BEFORE all of this.... RIGHT? (Because you should have) |
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One thing you can't do is stand in front of their car as they try to leave and shoot them 17 times.
That probably won't end well for you. |
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Call the police... Its the same reason Target has security guards with badges and a set of handcuffs they cant use them for any reason it strictly a deterant of crime, they are not reactors to it This is NUMBER ONE!!! but as for the second - we are authorized to detain and use force if needed.... force in self defense, detain if we witness a felony.... why stick your ass out for (usually) minimum wage though..... that's how most look at the job. What are we protecting here btw.... are we talking retail? national security? that'd make a difference.... |
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The hierarchy that decides what a security guard can do. Each step is more restrictive than the previous in most cases.
1. The law (as written) 2. Case law 3. Local prosecutor’s interpretation of the law 4. Local police interpretation of the prosecutor 5. Company policy 6. Client policy 7. Personal comfort in dealing with confrontations. 8. Faith in back up responders. This leads to who knows how many millions of possible answers by the time you have worked your way down the list. |
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I'm working at a facility right now (I'm on post) that has some particularly nasty stuff on site and if got into the wrong hands would be a problem.
Since I am waiting for my comission card, I am working an armed post without a weapon. Sooo... I'm sitting in a connex watching security cameras and Act of Valor. Star Trek was earlier. I only have two real orders; any problems call 911 first, then call the other officer on duty (who is armed). Order #2: don't fall asleep. Personal computer, movies, and cell phone are authorized 
Is it dangerous working out here unarmed? Sure... |