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10/7/2013 9:43:31 AM EDT
In a perfect world: if I have a 20000 pound brick of steel and I want it to float; it must be shaped to displace at least 20001 pounds of water; Yes?
10/7/2013 9:45:23 AM EDT
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<---not an engineer



I believe you are correct
10/7/2013 9:45:46 AM EDT
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Nope, just 20000 pounds, although that is neutral buoyancy.  If some freeboard is needed (i.e., float with part of the steel out of the water), then it will need to be shaped to displace more weight.


Now for fun -

Your brick of steel is a cube 3.41 feet on a side.  The fresh water you'll need to displace is a cube 6.83 feet on a side.  (0.29 lbf/in^3 steel, 62.4 lbf/ft^3 fresh water).

Reshape the brick to displace 320.5 ft^3 of water.



10/7/2013 9:46:31 AM EDT
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Fresh or salt?
10/7/2013 9:49:10 AM EDT
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MFer; this is ARFCOM::: BOTH



 
10/7/2013 9:51:00 AM EDT
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It could float without displacing really any water at all.
10/7/2013 9:51:25 AM EDT
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The man said water not solution!
10/7/2013 9:58:14 AM EDT
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You are technically correct.  However you would want the object to displace more than that for practical reasons.  
10/7/2013 10:00:44 AM EDT
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Doesn't matter because he referenced weight not volume...

Thought the volume would be less for salt water because it weighs more.
10/7/2013 10:31:03 AM EDT
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You are technically correct.  However you would want the object to displace more than that for practical reasons.  
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"Practically", the object in question should weigh @11000 pounds total, 90 inches wide, 312 inches long, and the keel to waterline @30 inches.  @7500 pounds under the waterline and @70% of that weight within 14 inches either side of the keel.





I guess that there will be a MAX payload of 2500 pounds including persons and gear/fuel/other assorted crap.  @1/3 displacement remains.




 
 
10/7/2013 10:32:16 AM EDT
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hoverboat?



 
10/7/2013 10:37:37 AM EDT
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10/7/2013 10:37:49 AM EDT
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It could float without displacing really any water at all.
hoverboat?
 


Liquid with density greater than steel.

10/7/2013 10:38:07 AM EDT
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hoverboat?

 
If it were thin enough, surface tension would provide the force necessary to keep it from sinking.



 
10/7/2013 11:11:05 AM EDT
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uh what?!?
10/7/2013 11:13:31 AM EDT
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Root beer floats?
10/7/2013 11:21:04 AM EDT
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Nope, just 20000 pounds, although that is neutral buoyancy.  If some freeboard is needed (i.e., float with part of the steel out of the water), then it will need to be shaped to displace more weight.


Now for fun -

Your brick of steel is a cube 3.41 feet on a side.  The fresh water you'll need to displace is a cube 6.83 feet on a side.  (0.29 lbf/in^3 steel, 62.4 lbf/ft^3 fresh water).

Reshape the brick to displace 320.5 ft^3 of water.

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Shape it into something that looks strikingly like a boat.
10/7/2013 11:31:27 AM EDT
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Nope, just 20000 pounds, although that is neutral buoyancy.  If some freeboard is needed (i.e., float with part of the steel out of the water), then it will need to be shaped to displace more weight.


Now for fun -

Your brick of steel is a cube 3.41 feet on a side.  The fresh water you'll need to displace is a cube 6.83 feet on a side.  (0.29 lbf/in^3 steel, 62.4 lbf/ft^3 fresh water).

Reshape the brick to displace 320.5 ft^3 of water.




Shape it into something that looks strikingly like a boat.


Not my job.
10/7/2013 11:32:50 AM EDT
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does the treadmill incline?
10/7/2013 11:43:08 AM EDT
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Nope, just 20000 pounds, although that is neutral buoyancy.  If some freeboard is needed (i.e., float with part of the steel out of the water), then it will need to be shaped to displace more weight.


Now for fun -

Your brick of steel is a cube 3.41 feet on a side.  The fresh water you'll need to displace is a cube 6.83 feet on a side.  (0.29 lbf/in^3 steel, 62.4 lbf/ft^3 fresh water).

Reshape the brick to displace 320.5 ft^3 of water.



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A hollow cube 6.83 feet on a side, of course Notably, the cubic void is roughly equivalent to the original cube size of 3.4 feet per side.
10/7/2013 11:52:35 AM EDT
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Look there are a few things I know.

1. Fire won't melt steel
2. A plane won't take off on a treadmill
3. .9bar will never be 1
4 Steel doesn't float.




10/7/2013 11:57:02 AM EDT
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  Actually only 20000+ pounds of water.   + might be .0000001 pounds or a million pounds.
10/7/2013 11:58:39 AM EDT
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You know how I know you are all wrong as fuck?


Cuz your answers didn't involve magnets. Fucking amateurs

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10/7/2013 1:09:08 PM EDT
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Nope, just 20000 pounds, although that is neutral buoyancy.  If some freeboard is needed (i.e., float with part of the steel out of the water), then it will need to be shaped to displace more weight.


Now for fun -

Your brick of steel is a cube 3.41 feet on a side.  The fresh water you'll need to displace is a cube 6.83 feet on a side.  (0.29 lbf/in^3 steel, 62.4 lbf/ft^3 fresh water).

Reshape the brick to displace 320.5 ft^3 of water.





A hollow cube 6.83 feet on a side, of course Notably, the cubic void is roughly equivalent to the original cube size of 3.4 feet per side.


Shhhh.

We're hunting wabbits.

10/7/2013 5:25:56 PM EDT
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10/7/2013 5:45:47 PM EDT
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Don't start that freaky shit here! Innocent thread and you have to go there. F-ing evil movie.

Nice.