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8/4/2012 4:25:15 PM EDT
How would you feel about doing unarmed car stops?
8/4/2012 4:26:50 PM EDT
[#1]
No

8/4/2012 4:28:47 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
How would you feel about doing unarmed car stops?


Are you serious?
8/4/2012 4:29:36 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Quoted:
How would you feel about doing unarmed car stops?


Are you serious?


As a heart attack.

8/4/2012 4:29:42 PM EDT
[#4]
Why the hell would I do that?
8/4/2012 4:31:18 PM EDT
[#5]
Uhhhhhmmmmm not going to happen!!!
8/4/2012 4:31:35 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
How would you feel about doing unarmed car stops?


My guess is that........

Some folks just don't see danger in police work.

Aloha, Mark
8/4/2012 4:32:06 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
No



8/4/2012 4:32:33 PM EDT
[#8]
Fuck that. No.
8/4/2012 4:35:46 PM EDT
[#9]
8/4/2012 4:37:33 PM EDT
[#10]
Why?
8/4/2012 4:38:52 PM EDT
[#11]
ETA: Stupid attempt at grammatical humor.  Thread topic too serious for this.  Lame joke removed.
8/4/2012 4:42:30 PM EDT
[#12]
Doesn't have to be weapons in the car, although I've had co-workers think they had S's on their shirts, all it takes is one solid hit and your down.
8/4/2012 4:42:47 PM EDT
[#13]
DBL TAP AGAIN
8/4/2012 4:43:55 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:


/thread
8/4/2012 4:44:15 PM EDT
[#15]
How about no?
8/4/2012 4:45:25 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
How about no?


But dude...being a cop isn't dangerous.  You should bring cotton candy to every traffic stop.
8/4/2012 4:54:01 PM EDT
[#17]
no way...

but..it is funny to point out to your fellow cop that he has left his gun in the trunk of his car after leaving the jail when you back him up on a stop and see the look on his face
8/4/2012 4:56:52 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
no way...

but..it is funny to point out to your fellow cop that he has left his gun in the trunk of his car after leaving the jail when you back him up on a stop and see the look on his face


LOL, that's happened to everyone hasn't it.
Except me,  I have never done it myself.
8/4/2012 4:57:36 PM EDT
[#19]
I think there would be a whole lot fewer traffic stops and citations issued.
8/4/2012 4:58:02 PM EDT
[#20]
Hell NO!!!!
8/4/2012 4:59:44 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
How would you feel about doing unarmed car stops?


Are you serious?


As a heart attack.




Are you going to draw some sort of parallel equivalent to another situation here or what's the reason behind the question?

8/4/2012 5:00:33 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Why the hell would I do that?


8/4/2012 5:01:35 PM EDT
[#23]
It couldn't or it would never happen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1jEL2P4TpE&feature=related

Aloha, Mark
8/4/2012 5:01:38 PM EDT
[#24]
Why should we have guns anyway? Let's do it like England. Will that make you guys happy?
8/4/2012 5:04:31 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
It couldn't or it would never happen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1jEL2P4TpE&feature=related

Aloha, Mark


I never saw that video before. What does the driver have in his hand, I can't make it out.
8/4/2012 5:07:43 PM EDT
[#26]
Not only no, but FUCK NO.
8/4/2012 5:07:48 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
It couldn't or it would never happen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1jEL2P4TpE&feature=related

Aloha, Mark


I never saw that video before. What does the driver have in his hand, I can't make it out.


Looked like a revolver to me. Suicide by cop?
8/4/2012 5:11:41 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
It couldn't or it would never happen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1jEL2P4TpE&feature=related

Aloha, Mark


I never saw that video before. What does the driver have in his hand, I can't make it out.


Looked like a revolver to me. Suicide by cop?


It was a firearm that he pointed at the cop out of frame of the camera.  That's why the officer fired.

I believe it's a wheelgun.

The individual had a lengthy criminal history.  A convenience store had been robbed nearby when this stop took place.

Read the expanded comments at the link.  It was a good shoot.
8/4/2012 5:12:03 PM EDT
[#29]
What is the purpose or this question? It is borderline trolling IMO.
8/4/2012 5:14:35 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
It couldn't or it would never happen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1jEL2P4TpE&feature=related

Aloha, Mark


I never saw that video before. What does the driver have in his hand, I can't make it out.


Looked like a revolver to me. Suicide by cop?


It was a firearm that he pointed at the cop.

I believe it's a wheelgun.

The individual had a lengthy criminal history.  A convenience store had been robbed nearby when this stop took place.

Read the expanded comments at the link.


I read about his criminal history, but the way he just stands there with the gun after exiting the vehicle and just walking up to the officer instead of coming out of the car with it raised to fire is what makes it seem like suicide by cop.
8/4/2012 5:14:56 PM EDT
[#31]
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1763946193001/
8/4/2012 5:17:27 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
It couldn't or it would never happen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1jEL2P4TpE&feature=related

Aloha, Mark


I never saw that video before. What does the driver have in his hand, I can't make it out.


Looked like a revolver to me. Suicide by cop?


It was a firearm that he pointed at the cop.

I believe it's a wheelgun.

The individual had a lengthy criminal history.  A convenience store had been robbed nearby when this stop took place.

Read the expanded comments at the link.


I read about his criminal history, but the way he just stands there with the gun after exiting the vehicle and just walking up to the officer instead of coming out of the car with it raised to fire is what makes it seem like suicide by cop.


Or, his "thought processes" were completely muddled by whatever the post mortem toxicology tests found in his system.

In any case, pointing the gun at the cop = DRT, and a good shoot.
8/4/2012 5:18:37 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
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It couldn't or it would never happen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1jEL2P4TpE&feature=related

Aloha, Mark


I never saw that video before. What does the driver have in his hand, I can't make it out.


Looked like a revolver to me. Suicide by cop?


It was a firearm that he pointed at the cop.

I believe it's a wheelgun.

The individual had a lengthy criminal history.  A convenience store had been robbed nearby when this stop took place.

Read the expanded comments at the link.


I read about his criminal history, but the way he just stands there with the gun after exiting the vehicle and just walking up to the officer instead of coming out of the car with it raised to fire is what makes it seem like suicide by cop.


Or, his "thought processes" were completely muddled by whatever the post mortem toxicology tests found in his system.

In any case, pointing the gun at the cop = DRT, and a good shoot.


That could also be it. That was an absolutely good shoot.
8/4/2012 5:21:56 PM EDT
[#34]
Speaking as a person who has had no less than 4 friends shot on car stops, the question is pretty ignorant.
8/4/2012 5:24:28 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
How would you feel about doing unarmed car stops?


I don't care who you are, that's funny right there.
And I'm not even LEO.
8/4/2012 5:27:44 PM EDT
[#36]
I'm just going to play devil's advocate here....

What about the motorist assistance guys?  They stop for breakdowns all the time, unarmed.

8/4/2012 5:31:58 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
I'm just going to play devil's advocate here....

What about the motorist assistance guys?  They stop for breakdowns all the time, unarmed.



Little bit of a difference there in the job descriptions.
8/4/2012 5:33:32 PM EDT
[#38]




Quoted:

I'm just going to play devil's advocate here....



What about the motorist assistance guys? They stop for breakdowns all the time, unarmed.







Do they check the drivers for warrants and arrest them?
8/4/2012 5:34:59 PM EDT
[#39]
8/4/2012 5:35:01 PM EDT
[#40]
To clarify the original post.

It was asked in all seriousness. There are Police agencies, in this Country, that are unarmed and conduct V&T stops.

I am aware that V&T stops are one of the most dangerous aspects of police work. Just curious about how other LEO's might feel about having to do them unarmed.

Personally, I think it's bat shit nuts.
8/4/2012 5:39:03 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
To clarify the original post.

It was asked in all seriousness. There are Police agencies, in this Country, that are unarmed and conduct V&T stops.

I am aware that V&T stops are one of the most dangerous aspects of police work. Just curious about how other LEO's might feel about having to do them unarmed.

Personally, I think it's bat shit nuts.


Not calling B.S., but can you name any?

Even the part time park rangers who patrol the local metroparks here on golf carts are armed, as well they should be.

Cops need adequate sidearms, and tactical rifles in their patrol vehicles.

8/4/2012 5:41:33 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Quoted:
To clarify the original post.

It was asked in all seriousness. There are Police agencies, in this Country, that are unarmed and conduct V&T stops.

I am aware that V&T stops are one of the most dangerous aspects of police work. Just curious about how other LEO's might feel about having to do them unarmed.

Personally, I think it's bat shit nuts.


Not calling B.S., but can you name any?

Even the part time park rangers who patrol the local metroparks here on golf carts are armed, as well they should be.

Cops need adequate sidearms, and tactical rifles in their patrol vehicles.



NY State Office of Mental Health Police.

NY State OMH Police

8/4/2012 5:42:39 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Quoted:
How about no?


But dude...being a cop isn't dangerous.  You should bring cotton candy to every traffic stop.




8/4/2012 5:43:34 PM EDT
[#44]
No. Fucking. Way.

Clear enough?
8/4/2012 5:45:20 PM EDT
[#45]
For future reference.

And I'm not saying that anyone accused me but...

I'm not a troll or bullshit artist.

Again....for future reference, I'd just like that noted.
8/4/2012 5:46:17 PM EDT
[#46]
Uh, I'm gonna say no.

I'll further and say I would not do my job at all without at least a sidearm.

I'm not worried about a majority of the public hurting me....it's the minority, typically the majority we deal with, that will. You never know if you are getting the majority or the minority you are getting on a traffic stop or any sort of contact really.
8/4/2012 5:46:19 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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To clarify the original post.

It was asked in all seriousness. There are Police agencies, in this Country, that are unarmed and conduct V&T stops.

I am aware that V&T stops are one of the most dangerous aspects of police work. Just curious about how other LEO's might feel about having to do them unarmed.

Personally, I think it's bat shit nuts.


Not calling B.S., but can you name any?

Even the part time park rangers who patrol the local metroparks here on golf carts are armed, as well they should be.

Cops need adequate sidearms, and tactical rifles in their patrol vehicles.



NY State Office of Mental Health Police.

NY State OMH Police


I believe they are armed.
8/4/2012 5:47:09 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm just going to play devil's advocate here....

What about the motorist assistance guys? They stop for breakdowns all the time, unarmed.



Do they check the drivers for warrants and arrest them?


Are wanted murderers immune from flat tires?
8/4/2012 5:47:49 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
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To clarify the original post.

It was asked in all seriousness. There are Police agencies, in this Country, that are unarmed and conduct V&T stops.

I am aware that V&T stops are one of the most dangerous aspects of police work. Just curious about how other LEO's might feel about having to do them unarmed.

Personally, I think it's bat shit nuts.


Not calling B.S., but can you name any?

Even the part time park rangers who patrol the local metroparks here on golf carts are armed, as well they should be.

Cops need adequate sidearms, and tactical rifles in their patrol vehicles.



NY State Office of Mental Health Police.

NY State OMH Police


I believe they are armed.


You would be wrong....I am an OMH Officer.
8/4/2012 5:49:48 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
To clarify the original post.

It was asked in all seriousness. There are Police agencies, in this Country, that are unarmed and conduct V&T stops.

I am aware that V&T stops are one of the most dangerous aspects of police work. Just curious about how other LEO's might feel about having to do them unarmed.

Personally, I think it's bat shit nuts.


Not calling B.S., but can you name any?

Even the part time park rangers who patrol the local metroparks here on golf carts are armed, as well they should be.

Cops need adequate sidearms, and tactical rifles in their patrol vehicles.



NY State Office of Mental Health Police.

NY State OMH Police



That's a bit disingenuous I'm afraid.

..."filling out motor vehicle accident reports and performing motor vehicle accident investigations within state grounds"...

...is quite a bit different than doing traffic stops on public roads and highways.
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