Posted: 12/24/2008 2:47:11 PM EDT
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I'm looking at buying a RC Predator plane. This is the only one I have been able to find.
The only RC planes I have had came with a controler and I'm not sure what I will need to go with it. I am also wondering if a one knows of the video cameras they sell to put on rc planes. Would there be a way to transmit it so you could fly it by looking through the camera? pics 
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Here is a link for UAV. http://www.rcgroups.com/uav-unmanned-aerial-vehicles-238/?s=06ac9be3b7c28c67083dcebf93ed3c1a
And here is a link to the rest of hte forum. http://www.rcgroups.com Omni |
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Looks like they are all out of what you want. All you need
Now if you want to learn fast on an aileron plane, this is your beast:FUCKING HUGE!!! |
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Looks like they are all out of what you want. All you need Now if you want to learn fast on an aileron plane, this is your beast:FUCKING HUGE!!! What he needs, Hell dont tell us what he NEEDs this is about what he WANTS. Just slap in a Gyro, GPS board along with an altimiter, programable flight package, and the camera package. No sense in trying to learnon a cheap plane is there???? Omni |
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Looks like they are all out of what you want. All you need Now if you want to learn fast on an aileron plane, this is your beast:FUCKING HUGE!!! What he needs, Hell dont tell us what he NEEDs this is about what he WANTS. Just slap in a Gyro, GPS board along with an altimiter, programable flight package, and the camera package. No sense in trying to learnon a cheap plane is there???? Omni I already have flown the cheap-o planes from the local hobby store. I just want something bigger as a project to give me soemthing to do. RC is not a big hobby of mine and I never research into whats out there I just flew the ones I had. And the price is not a big issue. Have nothing to add? then keep walkin.. |
The idea of trying to fly r/c aircraft through either goggles or by watching a monitor(i.e. 'normal' civilian r/c stuff), is that it is incredibly difficult. They bounce and wobble and can turn and rotate so much faster then full-size aircraft you're bound to make yourself sick trying.... It's also against AMA rules so no club R/C field would let you do it. They're plenty fun just flying them the normal way.
ETA: And if you do not have 'real' R/C aircraft experience, that will last you all of 20 seconds. |
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The idea of trying to fly r/c aircraft through either goggles or by watching a monitor(i.e. 'normal' civilian r/c stuff), is that it is incredibly difficult. They bounce and wobble and can turn and rotate so much faster then full-size aircraft you're bound to make yourself sick trying....  It's also against AMA rules so no club R/C field would let you do it.I never fly at a RC field. I don't think there are any here. It will be over family farmland, just like I do now. Are ther video cameras that could be mounted on it and downloaded after? |
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I really haven't tried this myself but the guys on the already posted forum have. From what I got you can fly one from input fed to goggles or a tv/laptop. But you will need a gyro and altimeter so the plane will automatically maintain altitude and horizontal flight. They also said that it was really easy to fly outside of visual range and that if you are going to do that then you will want to get a auto flight package so you can program in the desired flight path. They also mentioned that you had to manually takeoff and land the plane. Some of those guys had spent major bucks on the systems they had. I always wanted one but could never keep the toy Sky Dragon in the air let alone a expensive piece of hardware.
Good luck Omni |
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Looks like they are all out of what you want. All you need Now if you want to learn fast on an aileron plane, this is your beast:FUCKING HUGE!!! What he needs, Hell dont tell us what he NEEDs this is about what he WANTS. Just slap in a Gyro, GPS board along with an altimiter, programable flight package, and the camera package. No sense in trying to learnon a cheap plane is there???? Omni I already have flown the cheap-o planes from the local hobby store. I just want something bigger as a project to give me soemthing to do. RC is not a big hobby of mine and I never research into whats out there I just flew the ones I had. And the price is not a big issue. Have nothing to add? then keep walkin.. Well, don't get all pissy. Hobby Lobby International sells ALL you need plus they have the first retail 2.4 GHz video system with goggles for view from the plane! They have many other models. Most are without radios/servos/motors/batteries BUT they list recommended motors. And have most in stock. Bigger is better. |
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Are ther video cameras that could be mounted on it and downloaded after? Yes I have seen them but cant remember the web site. I think it is the same thing as using a small camera. Maybe if the plane has enough power you could use one of those $100.00 internal memory video cameras from Wal-Mart? |
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The idea of trying to fly r/c aircraft through either goggles or by watching a monitor(i.e. 'normal' civilian r/c stuff), is that it is incredibly difficult. They bounce and wobble and can turn and rotate so much faster then full-size aircraft you're bound to make yourself sick trying.... It's also against AMA rules so no club R/C field would let you do it.I never fly at a RC field. I don't think there are any here. It will be over family farmland, just like I do now. Are ther video cameras that could be mounted on it and downloaded after? I've seen CC ones used that I am sure you could hook up a VCR/DVR to(it will be showing through a monitor), and have seen the 'screen' in goggle format. Not sure where you get all the stuff tho. Would be a bitch to land using the screen, but slow flying at altitude could work ok. |
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First Person Video...
Get an old school 72 MHz radio system, either pulse position modulation or pulse code modulation. Both are FM. |
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I've seen enough brand new just-completed $$$ model airplanes torpedo right into the dirt on their first flight. I recommend getting an R/C flight simulator as your first purchase. Its the SECOND PLANE that lasts one day. Your trainer cartwheels, survives run-ins with bushes and park benches and its nothing a little Scotch Tape won't fix. Now that you 'know how to fly' and buy that new scale FW190 or EXTRA300, you completely destroy a plane into splinters...... |
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I've seen enough brand new just-completed $$$ model airplanes torpedo right into the dirt on their first flight. I recommend getting an R/C flight simulator as your first purchase. Its the SECOND PLANE that lasts one day. Your trainer cartwheels, survives run-ins with bushes and park benches and its nothing a little Scotch Tape won't fix. Now that you 'know how to fly' and buy that new scale FW190 or EXTRA300, you completely destroy a plane into splinters...... My instructor crashed my PT-40 (kit built from the ground up) into a bunch of trees/swamp when the engine died after he tuned it. 
He must've felt pretty bad though, cause not long after he gave me one of many extra RTF trainers he had won in club raffles. Even had a motor for it. 
I've still got a Sig Four-Star kit waiting to be built sometime...I'm waiting for enough funds to allow one of those O.S. Wankels. 
Oh and +1 on the Simulator. Not only is it good for practicing the essentials (ie, boring stuff) it's also a lot of fun to play around with...I made some crazy fast ducted-fan and turbine planes. |
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I've seen enough brand new just-completed $$$ model airplanes torpedo right into the dirt on their first flight. I recommend getting an R/C flight simulator as your first purchase. Its the SECOND PLANE that lasts one day. Your trainer cartwheels, survives run-ins with bushes and park benches and its nothing a little Scotch Tape won't fix. Now that you 'know how to fly' and buy that new scale FW190 or EXTRA300, you completely destroy a plane into splinters...... QFT I had much the same experience. I destroyed a brand new Eflite mini edge 540. It was beautiful, and even though it was "ARF", it took several hours of careful final assembly. I was over confident from flying a very forgiving trainer. The transition to a fast 3D capable plane like the Edge 540 was an expensive wake-up call. I had used a foam profile plane with a mild prop pitch and neutered control throws in the past. You could almost run along side of it. The Edge was a screamer.
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I made the mistake of taking a 2 meter electric sailplane into a MASSIVE thermal. The plane would barely climb on its own power. The dust devil under the bird looked like the tornado on The Wizard of Oz. Plane specked out in about 5 seconds. Then getting it down was impossible so I started doing graceful loops. Well, that worked until the last loop when I hit a massive sink. Plane just dropped out of the sky and I over-reacted with the elevator...mind you, it was well into a dive when I hit the sink. As it was loading to maximum Gs, it must have exited the sink, causing shear failure in the main wing spars.
I had forgotten to close the windows on my car. It was full of straw from the dust devils. Never go flying on a hot, summer afternoon over a freshly-mowed hay field. My current sailplane has spoilers. And it loves flying in those conditions, just throw the motor on enough to unfurl the prop but slower than the airspeed and it also acts as a speedbrake.
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It can be done.
Angle the camera down about 15 degrees, not straight ahead. You will need to be able to see the horizon when you fly and the gound when you land. But that is easier done just looking at the plane. It is possible looking through the camera. Gyro on the aileron servo. This is the same as a helo tail rotor gyro. They make solid state ones now, no actual motor type gyro. When you operate the stick it overrides the gyro. There are sensitivity settings. An experienced chopper guy might, no, WILL be a lot of help in choosing and setting up the gyro. You don't want or need gyro on elevator or rudder, aileron is enough. I'm a very long time Futaba user, since the mid '70's. Even their basic 4ch radios are quite good. Good luck. |
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Looks like they are all out of what you want. All you need Now if you want to learn fast on an aileron plane, this is your beast:FUCKING HUGE!!! I have to agree with Keith here. Save the Preditor a bit... and learn to fly a good trainer (nothing easier than the Telemaster) first. And he could learn with the camera and gyro after initial training. THEN go to the Predator. But what do I know? I've just been flying R/C since about 1971. 
A little history, the Telemaster is one of the early "industrial" uses of R/C model planes. They were first used to string the first line across valleys in Switzerland, then followed with larger and larger cables. Other such uses. Do not fear the size of the Telemaster... that is what makes it so easy to fly. Honestly, it really is. I've seen a guy with a Tele get it up, throttle back to about 25% (it was slow to begin with) hand the transmitter to a couple of kids and say, "here, see if you can take care of this for me while I bring us back some cokes." They could learn to fly before crashing, it was that easy. |
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It can be done. Angle the camera down about 15 degrees, not straight ahead. You will need to be able to see the horizon when you fly and the gound when you land. But that is easier done just looking at the plane. It is possible looking through the camera. Gyro on the aileron servo. This is the same as a helo tail rotor gyro. They make solid state ones now, no actual motor type gyro. When you operate the stick it overrides the gyro. There are sensitivity settings. An experienced chopper guy might, no, WILL be a lot of help in choosing and setting up the gyro. You don't want or need gyro on elevator or rudder, aileron is enough. I'm a very long time Futaba user, since the mid '70's. Even their basic 4ch radios are quite good. Good luck. Yep. I use an Ikarus Wing Gyro on my sailplane. Since the ailerons are 2-servo and my JR 6 channel handles the mixing of aileron and 5th to provide for spoilerons. Only they didn't deploy evenly, leading to roll at the worst possible moment, on final approach. The wing gyro levels that right out and I have it on channel 6. But once I left it ON during preflight and much to my surprise, it made flying coordinated MUCH BETTER. Even flat turns when coring a thermal are easy. And the best thing? It completely kills torque roll! Yes, this is motorized sailplane, swinging an 11x7 folder at 8500 RPM so torque IS an issue. |