Posted: 2/10/2012 7:37:57 PM EDT
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I'm interested in the new Escort radar detector that has the smartphone app that alerts you when other cars in your area (that are running the same app) get light up by radar or laser. Anyone on here have any experience with this or something like it?
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I'm interested in the new Escort radar detector that has the smartphone app. that alerts you when other cars in your area get light up by radar or laser. Anyone on here have any experience with this or something like it? ESCORT LIVE
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is it WORTH it to get a $500 valentine1? Looks like most troopers in FL use laser. Laser is tough to beat. They tend to be "ticket notification devices", but my V1 has saved me before from laser. I had a very low profile car with pop-up headlights that were down. (944 turbo) Looking ahead is probably going to be the most useful thing, but you can do both. |
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is it WORTH it to get a $500 valentine1? Looks like most troopers in FL use laser. Laser is tough to beat. They tend to be "ticket notification devices", but my V1 has saved me before from laser. I had a very low profile car with pop-up headlights that were down. (944 turbo) Looking ahead is probably going to be the most useful thing, but you can do both. Agreed, you hardly ever get the advanced warning of the cars in front of you being lasered so you can slow down, its usually a full tilt laser alarm out of nowhere by a cop car or bike that was concealed until it was to late. This is why I'm interested in the networking of this setup. Still looking for someone who has actually used it, the newness of it might be a draw back, not enough cars running it yet to make the system work well. |
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I recently got a ticket while on 95. I was driving 65 in a 70 zone, in the right of 3 lanes. Cop was on the left.
My Valantine 1 alerted, over and over again. Come to find out, the cop was sweeping my car with the lasar unit, from top to bottom. He ticketed me for 80. I drive an expensive luxury car. That sweeping motion can result in a higher reading. Whether he was doing this maliciously or not, I don't know. However, I now wish I had known he was there, as I would have slowed to 20 under the limit, that way there was no mistaking it. I still love my V1, but cops are getting away with murder now. |
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is it WORTH it to get a $500 valentine1? Looks like most troopers in FL use laser. In my state, they switched to instant-laser over a decade ago. And they're awfully good at hiding where they can just peek their head and the laser gun over or around something, so you can't see the motorcycle. By the time any detector beeps, they've already got you. There are various smartphone apps that will let you know if there's a speed trap in the area. Save your money and use those. |
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is it WORTH it to get a $500 valentine1? Looks like most troopers in FL use laser. In my state, they switched to instant-laser over a decade ago. And they're awfully good at hiding where they can just peek their head and the laser gun over or around something, so you can't see the motorcycle. By the time any detector beeps, they've already got you. There are various smartphone apps that will let you know if there's a speed trap in the area. Save your money and use those. I looked into the trapster app, but wasnt that impressed because it relys on other drivers to report a cop observing traffic. I like the idea of the radar detector automaticly reporting a Ka band or laser signal. Are there any other apps that automaticly report a Ka or laser signal setting off detectors in other cars? |
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My experience even with the most expensive detectors is that they are Wal-Mart/shopping center detectors and pick up the X/K-band radar from the doors. Only sloppy police keep the radar on. Most use Instant On K or Ka, or laser when the situation is right, and of course their speedometers as well. I also found it a hassle to hardwire/install the detectors each time I got a new or different vehicle. I just use cruise control as much as possible (I actually wore out the cruise control in my daily driver and had to replace it), and even then I had a cop tell me that he couldn't keep up with me (I was doing the speed limit of 50 MPH) after a corner. |
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Probably the one thing I don't like about living in VA.  Why are they illegal in VA? I'd do it anyways, just come up with a clever way of hiding it. Or use a jammer. Yes they are. However... It is only a $50 find with no points on your license and they have to return the detector to you. And since detectors are illegal there is no "arms race" with all the laser and instant-on devices that are common in other states so the detector is actually useful. On the other hand, getting caught with one means that you can forget about talking your way out of the ticket and the officer is likely to go looking for anything else he can find, just to teach you a lesson. And you have to worry about the police running "detector detectors." |
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I have one of those 60 dollar ones that will pick up everything... ive only gotten a laser hit once though, so im not sure how well it picks up lasers lol, never gotten a ticket though, and ive gotten tons of Ka...
It works great if the radar is aimed at the car at a dead on or at a slight angle, probably close to a mile in advance warning...if its coming from the side it will give the notice closer than if it were straight.. i gotta look up the model no. |
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is it WORTH it to get a $500 valentine1? Looks like most troopers in FL use laser. 100 billion percent yes it is. you guys who are saying that with instant on and laser that it doesn't matter since once they hit you its game over... your not understanding, a V1 will let you know hundreds of feet down the road when it gets returns from the Instant on or even a laser hit from any vehicle traffic that is in front. is it 100 percent? With a taillight chasing only Trooper Dept. like Virginia you can still get nailed, but if you combine knowing how to understand what the V1 is saying if anything, along with any habits or changes from the traffic in front of you, its pretty damn close to being a ticketproof system. When It comes to Va and D.C. there has been tons of tests done by different websites and radar forums and when using Vg2 (the cops radar detector detector) it will only alert when it is literally brought a foot or two directly next to the detector. All radar detectors are radios which is what makes them legal, they only receive, as opposed to a jammer which doesn't. The problem with a cheaper 'radio' is that it leaks for lack of a better term which is what makes them so easy to detect. The v1 is cased in magnesium and very very well built which is why it doesnt alert in Virginina. People who get pulled over in Va for running a V1 did so because of there behavior and driving style, that or the Officer physically saw the detector. |
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is it WORTH it to get a $500 valentine1? Looks like most troopers in FL use laser. 100 billion percent yes it is. you guys who are saying that with instant on and laser that it doesn't matter since once they hit you its game over... your not understanding, a V1 will let you know hundreds of feet down the road when it gets returns from the Instant on or even a laser hit from any vehicle traffic that is in front. is it 100 percent? With a taillight chasing only Trooper Dept. like Virginia you can still get nailed, but if you combine knowing how to understand what the V1 is saying if anything, along with any habits or changes from the traffic in front of you, its pretty damn close to being a ticketproof system. When It comes to Va and D.C. there has been tons of tests done by different websites and radar forums and when using Vg2 (the cops radar detector detector) it will only alert when it is literally brought a foot or two directly next to the detector. All radar detectors are radios which is what makes them legal, they only receive, as opposed to a jammer which doesn't. The problem with a cheaper 'radio' is that it leaks for lack of a better term which is what makes them so easy to detect. The v1 is cased in magnesium and very very well built which is why it doesnt alert in Virginina. People who get pulled over in Va for running a V1 did so because of there behavior and driving style, that or the Officer physically saw the detector. I've had a V1 since 1996, when I bought a brand new 1996 Mustang GT. 
For Radar: For lazy cops, you are correct. Others will wait a while between hits. Most of the time you are within a few hundred yards before they will light you up with instant on radar. If you are paying attention, you should see the car before the detector goes off. For laser, things are a little more tenuous. The Ohio state police are really ruthless with those things. |
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they are illegal everywhere, and they are teh kind of illegal where the fcc takes notice. I would never even consider one although honestly its been years since i last even looked at them. the fruit aint worth the squeeze.
plus they don't work against laser, which invovles a different illegal device, and there are ways to help spook laser that are basically free and carry only a small penalty. |
| For the record, there is NO law Federal or otherwise with regard to Jamming Laser, There are however multiple laws making it a serious crime to jame Radar. For the absolute best protection run a PROFESSIONALLY installed K40 RL360 with a twin head front and twin head rear Blinder Laser Detector/Jammer system. I install them and there is nothing like the look on the offecers face when my jammers lock up there laser guns for 7 seconds.... by the time they shoot again you are well within the limit..... YMMV,Mac |
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they are illegal everywhere, and they are teh kind of illegal where the fcc takes notice. I would never even consider one although honestly its been years since i last even looked at them. the fruit aint worth the squeeze. plus they don't work against laser, which invovles a different illegal device, and there are ways to help spook laser that are basically free and carry only a small penalty. You are talking about radar jammers. Laser jammers are legal in most places. Headlights jam to some extent. |
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I'm interested in the new Escort radar detector that has the smartphone app that alerts you when other cars in your area (that are running the same app) get light up by radar or laser. Anyone on here have any experience with this or something like it? ESCORT LIVE I have an 8500 and have considered it, but for what they want for the cable and the service, I could get a V1, which is probably where I'll go eventually. |
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I'm interested in the new Escort radar detector that has the smartphone app that alerts you when other cars in your area (that are running the same app) get light up by radar or laser. Anyone on here have any experience with this or something like it? ESCORT LIVE I have an 8500 and have considered it, but for what they want for the cable and the service, I could get a V1, which is probably where I'll go eventually. The cord by itself is $99 |
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they are illegal everywhere, and they are teh kind of illegal where the fcc takes notice. I would never even consider one although honestly its been years since i last even looked at them. the fruit aint worth the squeeze. plus they don't work against laser, which invovles a different illegal device, and there are ways to help spook laser that are basically free and carry only a small penalty. You are talking about radar jammers. Laser jammers are legal in most places. Headlights jam to some extent. yes I was referring to radar, I had a k40 installed in my M3 with with a single head on the front and rear and the additional jammer mounted on their license frame installation. The jammer worked well, the detector was a distant third behind the V1 and 8500. The problems wwith the jammer was that I wasn't crazy about the permant installation, and very shortly after it firs tmade its appearance on the market, Laser technology improved dramatically to the point where the jammer became absolutely useless. Thats the other major problem with a jammer setup. The radar/laser/lidar guns are all supplied to various LE agencies around the country completely free or nearly by insurance companies in order to drive up premiums. A passive system will remain effective for hopefully many years (or decades in the case of V1) active systems like k40 are generally very quickly defeated after the fisrt or second update to the gun. |