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7/8/2014 2:35:26 PM EDT
I have never gone to a range because I live in the country. However, I was looking at a range in the area and looking at the cost and it seemed reasonable as well as the rules.

However, one of the rules stated that you have to pick up all your brass and place in a box. Add to that recently on a show called Student of the Gun, it stated that when they go to the range, they keep all their brass because it is theirs.

My question is this, are there ranges out there that don't allow you to keep your own brass?

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7/8/2014 2:37:11 PM EDT
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Yep.  A small amount try to pull the "once it hits the floor it's ours" bullshit.

Most ranges just want you to clean up after yourself and don't care if you let them have it or not.
7/8/2014 2:38:49 PM EDT
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Yep.  A small amount try to pull the "once it hits the floor it's ours" bullshit.

Most ranges just want you to clean up after yourself and don't care if you let them have it or not.
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My question is this, are there ranges out there that don't allow you to keep your own brass?

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Yep.  A small amount try to pull the "once it hits the floor it's ours" bullshit.

Most ranges just want you to clean up after yourself and don't care if you let them have it or not.


I have never understood that ...it's not trash... it's not yours... I reload bitches...
7/8/2014 2:39:46 PM EDT
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The only range I've been to with that rule was an indoor range in California. Most of their shooters were using rental guns with reloads purchased from them, so it made a little more sense.

I don't really care about brass but if the range is going to claim it then I'm sure as hell not going to pick it up for them.
7/8/2014 2:40:32 PM EDT
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I have never understood that ...it's not trash... it's not yours... I reload bitches...
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My question is this, are there ranges out there that don't allow you to keep your own brass?

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Yep.  A small amount try to pull the "once it hits the floor it's ours" bullshit.

Most ranges just want you to clean up after yourself and don't care if you let them have it or not.


I have never understood that ...it's not trash... it's not yours... I reload bitches...


Same here.
Never been called on it.
7/8/2014 2:41:11 PM EDT
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I have never understood that ...it's not trash... it's not yours... I reload bitches...
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My question is this, are there ranges out there that don't allow you to keep your own brass?



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Yep.  A small amount try to pull the "once it hits the floor it's ours" bullshit.



Most ranges just want you to clean up after yourself and don't care if you let them have it or not.




I have never understood that ...it's not trash... it's not yours... I reload bitches...
It's extra income for them.  That's fine; I won't shoot at those places.  Or I'll get steel cased and let them clean up their own "brass."

 
7/8/2014 2:43:53 PM EDT
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Thanks for your input.
7/8/2014 2:44:26 PM EDT
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Brass can wreck havoc with the lawn machines...

Specially if its the cheapo steel casings that are becoming more prevalent today.

Rules are only enforceable if policed. I would advise following or risk losing privileges.
7/8/2014 2:44:48 PM EDT
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A few do it . Many are just trying to squeeze a customer out of every penny
7/8/2014 2:45:47 PM EDT
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YUP, when shooting matches at Rio Saldo Mesa AZ . any brass that hits the ground belongs to them. Heck I even went to pick up my loaded round after unloading and the RO gave me the look
7/8/2014 2:47:12 PM EDT
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Then they can clean it up ..... right after I do a happy dance and crush what is on the floor.  

My brass never hits the floor at the range where we shoot.

We set up a box to the right of the weapon on the table and it catches almost all of the brass.





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7/8/2014 2:47:45 PM EDT
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Set up a brass catcher.

7/8/2014 2:48:14 PM EDT
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Fuck any range with that stupid rule.

Having said that, brass catcher for the win.
7/8/2014 2:48:15 PM EDT
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I've seen one that when you buy their house ammo, they keep the brass. The range on base at Fort Polk, LA took the brass if you gave it to them, and put it toward wounded warrior programs.
7/8/2014 3:46:46 PM EDT
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I reload.  It's the only way I can afford to shoot as much as I do.  I wouldn't give my brass to a range.  I don't take what isn't mine but I damn sure want mine.
7/8/2014 3:50:12 PM EDT
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One thing I always wonder about those "if the brass hits the ground it's ours" type ranges, if I bring garbage and drop it on the ground is the garbage theirs too? Maybe that rule only applies to things that you own that they want.
7/8/2014 3:50:14 PM EDT
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Why I own a revolver in 45 ACP.  



If the range has the "on the floor its theirs" then I give them all the rimfire I can afford to shoot that day.




7/8/2014 3:54:40 PM EDT
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anytime i go to a range i end up with more bras than what i brought. I pick up whatever brass is in my area when i get there and all of my own.

if a place gave me shit about picking up my own brass i would not go.
7/8/2014 3:56:39 PM EDT
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I shot the Independence Day Rifle match there on Friday.  I got all my brass, as any competitor that wanted it did.
7/8/2014 3:57:16 PM EDT
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anytime i go to a range i end up with more bras than what i brought. I pick up whatever brass is in my area when i get there and all of my own.

if a place gave me shit about picking up my own brass i would not go.
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7/8/2014 4:00:58 PM EDT
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Yep.  A small amount try to pull the "once it hits the floor it's ours" bullshit.

Most ranges just want you to clean up after yourself and don't care if you let them have it or not.
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My question is this, are there ranges out there that don't allow you to keep your own brass?

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Yep.  A small amount try to pull the "once it hits the floor it's ours" bullshit.

Most ranges just want you to clean up after yourself and don't care if you let them have it or not.


That's been an age old custom. And that's why there are such things as brass catchers.
7/8/2014 4:03:47 PM EDT
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There are some out there.  I wouldn't shoot at one.
7/8/2014 4:16:33 PM EDT
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7/8/2014 4:20:57 PM EDT
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I shot the Independence Day Rifle match there on Friday.  I got all my brass, as any competitor that wanted it did.
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YUP, when shooting matches at Rio Saldo Mesa AZ . any brass that hits the ground belongs to them. Heck I even went to pick up my loaded round after unloading and the RO gave me the look


I shot the Independence Day Rifle match there on Friday.  I got all my brass, as any competitor that wanted it did.


Area 2 USPSA Champs. Different club, different rules? It's the only match I shoot in at your fine State
7/8/2014 4:47:14 PM EDT
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anytime i go to a range i end up with more bras than what i brought. I pick up whatever brass is in my area when i get there and all of my own.

if a place gave me shit about picking up my own brass i would not go.
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How many bras do you normally bring to the range?
7/8/2014 4:54:28 PM EDT
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Belonged to a range back in Florida that had this as an unwritten rule because some of the RO's were selling the brass. It depended what RO was there but it wasn't hard to figure out and some minor pushback got them to STFU when it came to brass I was picking up from my own rifle.

Most people just shrugged and thought that was the way it was. I'm not shooting to feed other peoples' side income especially when its not part of the actual written range rules.

I'm not digging through your shit, you're not getting mine by default. Move along.
7/8/2014 4:56:30 PM EDT
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I've gone tithe range before and never fired a shot, simply picked up brass

I wouldn't patronize a range that keeps your brass

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7/8/2014 5:02:38 PM EDT
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Been to a range that tried to pull that and so I just dropped it back on the ground and stepped all over it to crush it.
7/8/2014 5:05:22 PM EDT
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If brass falls in front of the firing line I won't grab it but any other brass on the ground that nobody wants is free game for me. Fuck those rules, they are only there so the range can make money off of brass that is "theirs"
7/8/2014 5:05:29 PM EDT
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Belonged to a range back in Florida that had this as an unwritten rule because some of the RO's were selling the brass. It depended what RO was there but it wasn't hard to figure out and some minor pushback got them to STFU when it came to brass I was picking up from my own rifle.

Most people just shrugged and thought that was the way it was. I'm not shooting to feed other peoples' side income especially when its not part of the actual written range rules.

I'm not digging through your shit, you're not getting mine by default. Move along.
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"Unwritten Rule" means unenforceable rule.

Fuck 'em.



7/8/2014 5:34:15 PM EDT
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My brother in law was telling one time when he was younger. Him and his grandfather went the range, and they always would get the last shooting station. A guy came along sweeping up brass from all the booths. He tried to sweep the brass in my BILs booth. They told him to leave it since my BILs grandfather reloaded. He then preceded to tell them he worked at the range. They just told him to fuck off and kept shooting.
7/8/2014 5:43:26 PM EDT
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Every range I ever shot does not allow you to retrieve brass. I'm surprised to hear about so many people that pick up. There is one "free" outdoor range that charges you your brass to shoot. There is an unpaid maintenance guy that recovers all the brass to clean the range.
7/8/2014 5:45:39 PM EDT
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The ranges in my area that I solicit, none have the rule "if it hits the floor it belongs to us!" If they did I would not shoot there. I mostly shoot at a range that I am a member of about 15 miles from me that is outdoor, and many times I come back with more than I shot, but I do believe in proper range etiquette ....Ask before you take any brass that is not fired from your gun! Not everybody reloads, but be mindful of those that do.

The one indoor range I go to some times 2miles from my home does resell the brass, but they don't have that rule. They allow you to "mine" the brass they have in many 5 gal buckets and charge you based on the weight.
7/8/2014 5:49:37 PM EDT
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that's what I do
I don't even reload ,yet
7/8/2014 6:00:02 PM EDT
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If I'm the only one there, I pick up all of it.  I separate by chambering and if it's something I can't use, I give the box to someone who will once it gets full.
7/8/2014 6:02:51 PM EDT
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Area 2 USPSA Champs. Different club, different rules? It's the only match I shoot in at your fine State
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YUP, when shooting matches at Rio Saldo Mesa AZ . any brass that hits the ground belongs to them. Heck I even went to pick up my loaded round after unloading and the RO gave me the look


I shot the Independence Day Rifle match there on Friday.  I got all my brass, as any competitor that wanted it did.


Area 2 USPSA Champs. Different club, different rules? It's the only match I shoot in at your fine State


The rifle match I shot was the only one I've shot at that range.  The other places I shoot pistol at (Havasu and my local range-Yuma), you're encouraged to take your brass.  If you leave it on the deck, someone else will!
7/8/2014 6:11:37 PM EDT
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My local indoor, you can pick up yours if it is behind the firing line. The RO is quick to sweep it forward of the firing line.
7/8/2014 6:21:01 PM EDT
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My range wants you to pick it up so we aren't knee deep in brass by the end of summer.  They don't care if you take it or if you put it in the provided bucket.  Brass placed in the bucket is collected, scrapped, and the money used to help fund the youth programs.
7/8/2014 6:22:58 PM EDT
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my range has this kinda confusing rule:

"All brass, once fired, is considered “lost brass.” Shooters may collect their personal fired brass as long as they do not disrupt the shooters around them or create a safety hazard."

I've never been hassled picking up brass in my vicinity.
7/8/2014 6:27:01 PM EDT
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I've seen plenty that CLAIM it's a safety thing to keep folks from "policing" their brass.

That pisses me off.

Just be honest, and let folks decide whether to shoot there or not.
7/8/2014 6:30:52 PM EDT
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The only range I've been to with that rule was an indoor range in California. Most of their shooters were using rental guns with reloads purchased from them, so it made a little more sense.

I don't really care about brass but if the range is going to claim it then I'm sure as hell not going to pick it up for them.
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The only defect at the Olin club is their claim on shotgun hulls.  I usually go over there specifically to get 28 gauge hulls, and each empty goes into my vest.

They used to sell hulls of all gauges but started selling everything but 12's to distributors, so heck with 'em.

Indoor ranges love to keep the brass, I've been to a couple that want whatever stays on the bench.  Heck with them, too.

7/8/2014 6:43:13 PM EDT
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The range I go to has a policy of your brass your property, but no solicitation of other shooters for their spent brass.

They do ask that if you aren't keeping the brass to donate it to the range and of course please separate steel cases out of the mix if possible.

That being said, I keep all my 223 and 5.56 in. A bucket at home.  I don't reload but if I did would I need to separate 223 and 5.56 prior to doing something with it?
7/8/2014 6:47:36 PM EDT
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My sportsman's club's policy is that you can leave your brass on the ground if you don't want it, but you have to do a police call if you're using steel casings.
7/8/2014 6:51:41 PM EDT
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Hell, if they say you can't keep it only shoot Blaser aluminum and Wolf steel case!
7/8/2014 7:09:28 PM EDT
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None of the places I shoot indoor has this stupid rule. I only pick up brass thats leftover in my lane. I had a chat with one ro that I was testing out my new reloads. The ro is a reloader too and swept my fired brass back into my lane.
7/9/2014 12:55:15 PM EDT
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The range I go to has a policy of your brass your property, but no solicitation of other shooters for their spent brass.

They do ask that if you aren't keeping the brass to donate it to the range and of course please separate steel cases out of the mix if possible.

That being said, I keep all my 223 and 5.56 in. A bucket at home.  I don't reload but if I did would I need to separate 223 and 5.56 prior to doing something with it?
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First, separate out any brass with Berdan priming.  A few folks that don't have enough work will prep it to load.

Second, separate the brass with a primer crimp.  That will be virtually all 5.56X45 brass, and some from ammunition sold as .223 Rem ammunition; Winchester white box is one example, and Federal will be found with and without a crimp.  Set the crimped brass aside, the crimps have to be removed.

Third, I recommend separating the commercial brass by headstamp.  Some here will protest that it's not necessary, and they are wrong.  PMP brass tends to be about 10 grains heavier than the average of the most common cases and needs to be loaded with a reduced charge.  Some old Lapua brass is reported to be about the same weight, but I've never encountered that, the current stuff weighs the same as Winchester, WCC, Remington, and so on.

Mixed brass can be loaded as a batch, but the smart reloader does not push maximum loads due to the differences of internal volume.

After that, just store your sorted brass until you're ready to learn to reload.  It won't spoil, with one exception; keep it away from exposure to ammonia fumes or piss from cats, mice, and so on.  That stuff is valuable, take care of it.

7/9/2014 1:05:31 PM EDT
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I reload my brass, mostly 45, until it starts to split and then toss the batch.  I usually get 30 reloads out of them so brass lasts me a very long time.  If it hits the ground it's still mine along with a lot of other brass I tend to pick up.  Any range that tries to say otherwise isn't worth going to.