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4/26/2015 4:55:35 PM EDT
You can't buy a handgun in Illinois that has a frame that will melt at like 800 degrees or less??

So say my friend who now lives in that lovely state...

Never heard of this...I mean really? What's the deal?

I have a oxy/acetylene torch and could turn most any firearm into a pile of molten slag and just don't/can't fathom what the law could be for....
4/26/2015 4:56:24 PM EDT
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You can't buy a handgun in Illinois that has a frame that will melt at like 800 degrees or less??

So say my friend who now lives in that lovely state...

Never heard of this...I mean really? What's the deal?

I have a oxy/acetylene torch and could turn most any firearm into a pile of molten slag and just don't/can't fathom what the law could be for....
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4/26/2015 4:56:28 PM EDT
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Control over the populace (assuming it's even a real law)
4/26/2015 4:57:23 PM EDT
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Illinois...












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4/26/2015 5:00:22 PM EDT
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I can't say about Illinois, but at least one other state, (whose name escapes my memory), had a similar law.

The purpose was to prevent the sale of the cheap pot metal so called "Saturday Night Specials", which used to be so popular, and are still available.

This law came about before H&K introduced the first polymer frame pistol, several years before Gaston Glock got into the handgun business.

4/26/2015 5:12:42 PM EDT
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I can't say about Illinois, but at least one other state, (whose name escapes my memory), had a similar law.



The purpose was to prevent the sale of the cheap pot metal so called "Saturday Night Specials", which used to be so popular, and are still available.



This law came about before H&K introduced the first polymer frame pistol, several years before Gaston Glock got into the handgun business.



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Pretty sure it is my state. I recall seeing some cheap single-action .22lr revolvers online that were listed as "not for sale in Minnesota" due to the pot metal construction.



 
4/26/2015 7:25:42 PM EDT
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I can't say about Illinois, but at least one other state, (whose name escapes my memory), had a similar law.

The purpose was to prevent the sale of the cheap pot metal so called "Saturday Night Specials", which used to be so popular, and are still available.

This law came about before H&K introduced the first polymer frame pistol, several years before Gaston Glock got into the handgun business.

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If I lived in Illinois...I don't have the right to buy an inexpensive handgun...but..but..what if I'm poor?....I mean I own some fine guns and a few 'El Cheapos'...I like most of the those too...
4/26/2015 7:29:29 PM EDT
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If I lived in Illinois...I don't have the right to buy an inexpensive handgun...but..but..what if I'm poor?....I mean I own some fine guns and a few 'El Cheapos'...I like most of the those too...
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I can't say about Illinois, but at least one other state, (whose name escapes my memory), had a similar law.

The purpose was to prevent the sale of the cheap pot metal so called "Saturday Night Specials", which used to be so popular, and are still available.

This law came about before H&K introduced the first polymer frame pistol, several years before Gaston Glock got into the handgun business.



If I lived in Illinois...I don't have the right to buy an inexpensive handgun...but..but..what if I'm poor?....I mean I own some fine guns and a few 'El Cheapos'...I like most of the those too...


Yeah, they went after cheap handguns like 'tards in the 90's.
4/26/2015 7:59:37 PM EDT
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Which is why anytime someone mentions the evils of Saturday Night Specials, I call them racist and waging a war on the poor.  Such laws do nothing but prevent the disadvantaged (mainly blacks and Latinos) from having an affordable means to defend themselves.  Which is EXACTLY why the Jim Crow laws were written the way they were--so blacks couldn't defend themselves from the KKK, aka "the ISIS of the Southern Democrat Party."
4/26/2015 10:52:15 PM EDT
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That's fucked-up!...That is a real law huh?...
4/26/2015 10:59:01 PM EDT
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I never heard that before.  Please provide a link to the law.
4/26/2015 11:02:03 PM EDT
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I'm an Illinois guy. Which guns melt at 800 degrees? I have a "few" Glocks which are polymer.... Never heard of that law though
4/26/2015 11:14:53 PM EDT
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(720 ILCS 5/24-3) (from Ch. 38, par. 24-3)
   Sec. 24-3. Unlawful sale or delivery of firearms.
   (A) A person commits the offense of unlawful sale or delivery of firearms when he or she knowingly does any of the following:
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       (h) While holding any license as a dealer, importer, manufacturer or pawnbroker under the federal Gun Control Act of 1968, manufactures, sells or delivers to any unlicensed person a handgun having a barrel, slide, frame or receiver which is a die casting of zinc alloy or any other nonhomogeneous metal which will melt or deform at a temperature of less than 800 degrees Fahrenheit. For purposes of this paragraph, (1) "firearm" is defined as in the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act; and (2) "handgun" is defined as a firearm designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand, and includes a combination of parts from which such a firearm can be assembled.
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http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/072000050K24-3.htm
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4/27/2015 9:46:01 AM EDT
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Yes, now I remember this part of the law.  It was added in the mid to late 80's in an attempt to get the cheap poor quality guns off the street.  There are other states that put similar laws in place.  I don't see it as doing anything to help stop gun violence.  The thugs will use any gun they can get their hands on and the rest of us probably don't want to own a crappy pot metal firearm anyway.
4/27/2015 9:53:45 AM EDT
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(720 ILCS 5/24-3) (from Ch. 38, par. 24-3)
   Sec. 24-3. Unlawful sale or delivery of firearms.
   (A) A person commits the offense of unlawful sale or delivery of firearms when he or she knowingly does any of the following:
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       (h) While holding any license as a dealer, importer, manufacturer or pawnbroker under the federal Gun Control Act of 1968, manufactures, sells or delivers to any unlicensed person a handgun having a barrel, slide, frame or receiver which is a die casting of zinc alloy or any other nonhomogeneous metal which will melt or deform at a temperature of less than 800 degrees Fahrenheit. For purposes of this paragraph, (1) "firearm" is defined as in the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act; and (2) "handgun" is defined as a firearm designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand, and includes a combination of parts from which such a firearm can be assembled.
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http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/072000050K24-3.htm

 Looks Glocks and other plastic framed guns are safe.  Still a stupid law though.