[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Remington Golden Bullets (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 7/13/2013 9:45:17 AM EDT
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I was at a local Farm Supply/Hardware store which received a shipment of Remington 36 grain HP Golden bullets. These were packaged loose in a plastic bucket containing 1400 rounds for $69.99. The bucket is marked New & Improved just like the 350 round packs. I also went to a local gun shop which got in some Ferderal Automatch 325 round boxes for $21 per box. Maybe some ammo is starting to trickle out as I'm seeing more 5.56/223, 9 MM, 40 and 45. The gun shop also had Hornady 123 grain A-Max for 6.5 Grendel. The 6.5 Grendel was the same price as last year but the Federal Automatch was more expensive than last year.
I was surprised as I had never seen Remington ammo sold in buckets, seems like I remember them being sold novelty metal boxes. I was glad to find the Remington Golden bullets as they function great in my Advantage Arms conversion kits. |
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Our 4H program was given 12 buckets of the Golden Bullets. The ammo snobs on some of the other boards disparage these but we had good luck with them. Our kids have fired 4 buckets and we have had zeroe problems with them.
They are accurate enough for the kids, you don't need Eley Tenex to teach someone to shoot. |
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I was at a local Farm Supply/Hardware store which received a shipment of Remington 36 grain HP Golden bullets. These were packaged loose in a plastic bucket containing 1400 rounds for $69.99. The bucket is marked New & Improved just like the 350 round packs. I also went to a local gun shop which got in some Ferderal Automatch 325 round boxes for $21 per box. Maybe some ammo is starting to trickle out as I'm seeing more 5.56/223, 9 MM, 40 and 45. The gun shop also had Hornady 123 grain A-Max for 6.5 Grendel. The 6.5 Grendel was the same price as last year but the Federal Automatch was more expensive than last year. I was surprised as I had never seen Remington ammo sold in buckets, seems like I remember them being sold novelty metal boxes. I was glad to find the Remington Golden bullets as they function great in my Advantage Arms conversion kits. 
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I bought some of those a while back, new and improved my ass. The work OK in my bolt action 22, the semi autos not so hot. They are the worst of all the 22 rounds I have bought, my 22 AR completely chokes on them, jams every shot or every other shot, absolutely useless. |
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My Ruger 10/22 eats them up. Not the most accurate round, but good enough in my accurate bull barrel.
It will have a few duds in the package most likely. Not too many feed issues with them in other guns either, but given the choice between Remington and Federal bulk packs I'd choose Federal. It's in stock better get it anyway though. |
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I bought some of those a while back, new and improved my ass. The work OK in my bolt action 22, the semi autos not so hot. They are the worst of all the 22 rounds I have bought, my 22 AR completely chokes on them, jams every shot or every other shot, absolutely useless. Pretty much my experience as well, single shot or revolver OK, SEMI , NO WAY! I'd say the reason they're in a bucket, that's where the last guy that TRIED to shoot them , DUMPED his stash 
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| I dunno. People bash on Thunderbolts. I use them to foul my barrels in all but one of my .22's. I shoot a mag or a cylinder or two into the berm, quick wipe down with a dry, cotton rag, boresnake, good to go for a few hundred. The oddball is my single six. I aim at small objects on the berm with that (about 50 yards) and either hit them or get damn close. You got me. On the older golden bullets, I never had an issue with them, a flyer every now and then. Can't speak on the new improved version. At $70.00 a bucket, give them a try. If nothing else, they to can become fouler's. |
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I bought some of those a while back, new and improved my ass. The work OK in my bolt action 22, the semi autos not so hot. They are the worst of all the 22 rounds I have bought, my 22 AR completely chokes on them, jams every shot or every other shot, absolutely useless. Pretty much my experience as well, single shot or revolver OK, SEMI , NO WAY! I'd say the reason they're in a bucket, that's where the last guy that TRIED to shoot them , DUMPED his stash They run like a scaled ape in my 22/45, with or without the can. |
Would those of you who sing the praises of Remington Golden Bullets please run ten of them over a chronograph and post the results?
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As a guy who just took 250# of .22 brass to the recycler, I can attest Remington .22 anything is the absolute worst domestic .22 ammo available.
It works in a bolt-action. Well, of course it does. It cycles my 10/22. It's a 10/22, designed to digest gravel and shoot minute of watermelon. It's filthy, dirty, gritty and you have to clean your actions 10 times as often. There is worse ammo and several better, but hell, if you're just burning it up, burn the cheap-stuff if you can get it to cycle and don't mind cleaning things to keep them working all the time. Oh, and I'm not joking, a 1400rd bucket? $70? Wow. I don't think I'd pay $30 and that's if I was jonesing. |
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They have been unreliable for me in both a Spike's conversion kit and a Browning Buck Mark. I'll try them in a 10/22, but am pretty much stuck with a couple bulk boxes if the things as my only .22. I should have purchased more Aquila super velocity stuff when I had the chance. At the time, it was too expensive for my taste. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I test fired the Remington 36 grain Golden bullets in my AA 1911 conversion which worked 100%. I also shot some in my CMMG dedicated upper with a RRA NM LPK. I had no stoppages or failure to fire. One round sounded like it may not have been super sonic in the AR but you even get that out of Federal bulk. I didn't notice the bullets being loose in the case and they weren't near as dirty to the touch as I've seen in the past. Considering this was the first time I've seen bulk ammo on shelves this year I bought a bucket.
Strange but the Remington GB is the only type of ammo to work 100% in my AA 1911 kit so I was glad to find some as my supply was getting low. |
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Our 4H program was given 12 buckets of the Golden Bullets. The ammo snobs on some of the other boards disparage these but we had good luck with them. Our kids have fired 4 buckets and we have had zeroe problems with them. They are accurate enough for the kids, you don't need Eley Tenex to teach someone to shoot. I like it when they say it isn't good ammo Leaves more for me to get 
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Our 4H program was given 12 buckets of the Golden Bullets. The ammo snobs on some of the other boards disparage these but we had good luck with them. Our kids have fired 4 buckets and we have had zeroe problems with them. They are accurate enough for the kids, you don't need Eley Tenex to teach someone to shoot. I like it when they say it isn't good ammo Leaves more for me to get http://i43.tinypic.com/f27e39.jpg This. RGB is all I buy, if I can. Runs awesome in a MAX11/22. |
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I was at a local Farm Supply/Hardware store which received a shipment of Remington 36 grain HP Golden bullets. These were packaged loose in a plastic bucket containing 1400 rounds for $69.99. The bucket is marked New & Improved just like the 350 round packs. I also went to a local gun shop which got in some Ferderal Automatch 325 round boxes for $21 per box. Maybe some ammo is starting to trickle out as I'm seeing more 5.56/223, 9 MM, 40 and 45. The gun shop also had Hornady 123 grain A-Max for 6.5 Grendel. The 6.5 Grendel was the same price as last year but the Federal Automatch was more expensive than last year. I was surprised as I had never seen Remington ammo sold in buckets, seems like I remember them being sold novelty metal boxes. I was glad to find the Remington Golden bullets as they function great in my Advantage Arms conversion kits. http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2013/01/13/842887_01_remington_nascar_tin_with_22_a_640.jpg I have several of those tins left over in storage! 
The ammo was spent but I just never threw them away. |
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Yup. The consistency at which these rounds have failed me is remarkable.
I bought some of those a while back, new and improved my ass. The work OK in my bolt action 22, the semi autos not so hot. They are the worst of all the 22 rounds I have bought, my 22 AR completely chokes on them, jams every shot or every other shot, absolutely useless. |
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In the late 70's early 80's the Remington GB in the 50 round box/ 10 box brick were the very best next to CCI. Federal 22's were absolute crap, with paper filler in their powder even. Now it's just the opposite with the Federal's being a bunch better then the Remington's. CCI has always been good through out the years.
Good to know some things haven't changed. |
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Quoted: I was at a local Farm Supply/Hardware store which received a shipment of Remington 36 grain HP Golden bullets. These were packaged loose in a plastic bucket containing 1400 rounds for $69.99. The bucket is marked New & Improved just like the 350 round packs. I also went to a local gun shop which got in some Ferderal Automatch 325 round boxes for $21 per box. Maybe some ammo is starting to trickle out as I'm seeing more 5.56/223, 9 MM, 40 and 45. The gun shop also had Hornady 123 grain A-Max for 6.5 Grendel. The 6.5 Grendel was the same price as last year but the Federal Automatch was more expensive than last year. I was surprised as I had never seen Remington ammo sold in buckets, seems like I remember them being sold novelty metal boxes. I was glad to find the Remington Golden bullets as they function great in my Advantage Arms conversion kits. Does this mean they actually fire now? The only time I buy golden bullets is to throw in the barter pile for people who don't know any better, ie, most of them. |
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For those who have had bad luck; is the ammo dirty/greasy? Would running them a hour in a brass tumbler help? Not hurting for ammo but would buy some if it could be made to run. The powder might not burn very clean - but in my experience it just burns a little bit dirtier than Fed bulk pack. The unfired rounds are clean and any feed issues should be due to the bullet profile - or inconsistent charging if you using an autoloader. I've noticed three things about Remington .22 ammo that make it unacceptable to me: 1) Case rims in the last Rem bulk I fired would partially blow out on some rounds. This occurred in autoloaders with approximately 3% of the rounds. These were produced during the 2008 panic. This was the straw that broke the camel's back for me - I went from buying Remington if it was the only option to passing it up altogether. 2) In consistent reports - some rounds would go off with a loud crack, others would "pop". This is obviously due to inconsistent powder charges. I don't recall hearing any that went "Pumph!" but if the powder charge is allowed to vary that much you're risking a squib round. 3)They have the highest dud rate - easily 5-6% in the last boxes I fired. Remington bulk had a higher dud rate than Fed bulk in the past but it was about 3% 10 years ago. Based on this I believe Remington is (was?) using worn out or poorly adjusted machinery to produce .22 or they are letting chuckleheads produce it. They may have gotten their act together but I'd let others spend the money to find out. |
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For those who have had bad luck; is the ammo dirty/greasy? Would running them a hour in a brass tumbler help? Not hurting for ammo but would buy some if it could be made to run. The powder might not burn very clean - but in my experience it just burns a little bit dirtier than Fed bulk pack. The unfired rounds are clean and any feed issues should be due to the bullet profile - or inconsistent charging if you using an autoloader. I've noticed three things about Remington .22 ammo that make it unacceptable to me: 1) Case rims in the last Rem bulk I fired would partially blow out on some rounds. This occurred in autoloaders with approximately 3% of the rounds. These were produced during the 2008 panic. This was the straw that broke the camel's back for me - I went from buying Remington if it was the only option to passing it up altogether. 2) In consistent reports - some rounds would go off with a loud crack, others would "pop". This is obviously due to inconsistent powder charges. I don't recall hearing any that went "Pumph!" but if the powder charge is allowed to vary that much you're risking a squib round. 3)They have the highest dud rate - easily 5-6% in the last boxes I fired. Remington bulk had a higher dud rate than Fed bulk in the past but it was about 3% 10 years ago. Based on this I believe Remington is (was?) using worn out or poorly adjusted machinery to produce .22 or they are letting chuckleheads produce it. They may have gotten their act together but I'd let others spend the money to find out. |
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I was at a local Farm Supply/Hardware store which received a shipment of Remington 36 grain HP Golden bullets. These were packaged loose in a plastic bucket containing 1400 rounds for $69.99. The bucket is marked New & Improved just like the 350 round packs. I also went to a local gun shop which got in some Ferderal Automatch 325 round boxes for $21 per box. Maybe some ammo is starting to trickle out as I'm seeing more 5.56/223, 9 MM, 40 and 45. The gun shop also had Hornady 123 grain A-Max for 6.5 Grendel. The 6.5 Grendel was the same price as last year but the Federal Automatch was more expensive than last year. I was surprised as I had never seen Remington ammo sold in buckets, seems like I remember them being sold novelty metal boxes. I was glad to find the Remington Golden bullets as they function great in my Advantage Arms conversion kits. http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2013/01/13/842887_01_remington_nascar_tin_with_22_a_640.jpg I have one of those around here..........somewhere. |
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Quoted: Then why do you have a Winchester Super X just left of center in that picture?Quoted: Our 4H program was given 12 buckets of the Golden Bullets. The ammo snobs on some of the other boards disparage these but we had good luck with them. Our kids have fired 4 buckets and we have had zeroe problems with them. They are accurate enough for the kids, you don't need Eley Tenex to teach someone to shoot. I like it when they say it isn't good ammo Leaves more for me to get http://i43.tinypic.com/f27e39.jpg  |
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I couldn't get the Golden Bullets to function reliably in my M&P 15-22. Federal Bulk Packs work great though. From the 15-22 manual: "Through our testing, Smith & Wesson has found that there are several brands and types of .22LR ammunition that do not perform consistently or reliably. Consequently, Smith & Wesson DOES NOT RECOMMEND that the following brands or types of .22LR ammunition be used in your M&P 15-22." Remington Golden Bullet Remington Target 22 Remington Thunderbolt Winchester Wildcat Any and all sub-sonic brands and types. |