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6/23/2012 3:06:33 AM EDT
... what is your opinion of it?  Got someone offering one up for sale in the .223 class, don't know alot about it.  I know the 700 has been around forEVer; how does the 7 compare?  Interdasted in any problems, thanx in advance.
6/23/2012 3:38:17 AM EDT
[#1]
same gun as a 700 with a shorter barrel
6/23/2012 3:51:35 AM EDT
[#2]
Seems pretty much like it, but a shorter ACTION.
6/23/2012 3:58:30 AM EDT
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yea they are only chambered in short action calibers but you can get the 700 in short action too...
6/23/2012 4:02:33 AM EDT
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The are basically a compact version of a Model 700 short action, they usually wear a very thin barrel profile that can be had in 18",20"and 22" lengths.

They always have a magazine floorplate for quick loading and unloading, they have a shortened 700 style receiver that gives up a little length in the rear and thus only has one screw hole for the rear scope mount.

The bolt is shorter to fit the reduced receiver length. It is a very light rifle and is very accurate. They come in stainless and with either a very nice walnut stock or a synthetic stock.

They also offer limited run models that feature odd calbers or things such as Mannlicher style of other fancy stocks.

The stocks come with shorter length of pull and youth models come with and even shorter length.

They're a pretty handy bolt gun.

As far as any complaints, I take issue with their use of a standard 700 bolt shroud as it hangs further of the back off the back of the shorter Model 7 firing pin assembly that it should and though it does hurt anything it looks like crapIMO, and you don't see the back of the pin assembly move out flush with the edge of the shroud when the rifle is ready to fire. I have turned down and reblued quite a few of the shrouds so they mimic the look they have on the 700's.

Secondly, if your looking the throw a lot of shot through t in a short period of time your accuracy will suufer bit due to the thin barrel heating up faster than most, though as a hunting rifle this won't be a problem.
6/23/2012 4:02:36 AM EDT
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Mine  in a 243 has put a bunch of meat in the freezer over the last 12 years...  
6/23/2012 4:08:16 AM EDT
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Have one in 260. It took me a while to find a load that shot well in it. I finally found one that gave me 7/8" at 100 and said good enough. Used it for deer until I picked up my 270WSM which I shoot better at 300+ so I use it now instead. It's a very handy package and when my grandson is old enough it's probably what I'll have him use when we cross the river. It has a shorter barrel, OAL is shorter and it's lighter that a short action 700.
6/23/2012 4:15:13 AM EDT
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Mine  in a 243 has put a bunch of meat in the freezer over the last 12 years...  


My .243 Model 7 was a joy to shoot, probably that cartridge paired with that weight rifle was what made it so and every deer I ever shot with a .243 drop in it's tracks and never required a follow up, it's fairly flat laser like trajectory make it a breeze to grab a quick long shot as well.

6/23/2012 4:23:52 AM EDT
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Mine  in a 243 has put a bunch of meat in the freezer over the last 12 years...  




My .243 Model 7 was a joy to shoot, probably that cartridge paired with that weight rifle was what made it so and every deer I ever shot with a .243 drop in it's tracks and never required a follow up, it's fairly flat laser like trajectory make it a breeze to grab a quick long shot as well.





Sounds about right..       Aside from hunting with it I use it at the "turkey shoots" we have in the area a few times a year ( for those who haven been to a turkey shoot, it is 3 shots offhand at a deer target)  it is a pleasure to shoot all day, and rings the 300 yard gong nicely.  



 
6/23/2012 4:24:20 AM EDT
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I have one in 7mm/08 for the wife, handles pretty well.
 
6/23/2012 4:29:29 AM EDT
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same gun as a 700 with a shorter barrel


It's also a lighter receiver.

OP, don't buy it looking for accuracy. It's nowhere near as accurate as a 700. It's a lightweight hunting rifle. The .223 chambering is a little on the light side for most of the jobs it's intended to do, but it's a nice deer rifle if you don't mind the lower power.
6/23/2012 4:34:15 AM EDT
[#11]
I had a stainless synthetic in 7mm-08 with a 22" bbl, wanted to use it as a "light" treestand gun for whitetails.  Shot it a few times with decent accuracy around 1" - 1.25" from factory 140gr Remington Core-Lokts, but the recoil reminded me of my old M700 Mountain Rifle in .270.  Sold it in the quest for a lighter recoiling combination, but it sure was light and maneuverable.  Should be really fun in .223, but like another poster stated the barrel is too thin to withstand high-volume shooting without building heat.  

SS
6/23/2012 4:38:50 AM EDT
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same gun as a 700 with a shorter barrel


It's also a lighter receiver.

OP, don't buy it looking for accuracy. It's nowhere near as accurate as a 700. It's a lightweight hunting rifle. The .223 chambering is a little on the light side for most of the jobs it's intended to do, but it's a nice deer rifle if you don't mind the lower power.


This part is ignorant.
6/23/2012 4:42:33 AM EDT
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Seems pretty much like it, but a shorter ACTION.


 Yes..the action is shorter.It's about the MINIMUM length for a .243,7-08 length cartridge.
I have a 7 in .223 and I LOVE it.It shoots better than you would expect and it's lightweight and easy to carry.
6/23/2012 4:45:12 AM EDT
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same gun as a 700 with a shorter barrel


It's also a lighter receiver.

OP, don't buy it looking for accuracy. It's nowhere near as accurate as a 700. It's a lightweight hunting rifle. The .223 chambering is a little on the light side for most of the jobs it's intended to do, but it's a nice deer rifle if you don't mind the lower power.


This part is ignorant.


Your name is "Wag-Bag"  HAHAHAHAH  AWESOME!!!  

With a name like Wag-Bag I am almost certain you aren't some kind of fobbit mall ninja commando. You sir, have been somewhere that sucks.
6/23/2012 4:46:56 AM EDT
[#15]
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The are basically a compact version of a Model 700 short action, they usually wear a very thin barrel profile that can be had in 18",20"and 22" lengths.

They always have a magazine floorplate for quick loading and unloading, they have a shortened 700 style receiver that gives up a little length in the rear and thus only has one screw hole for the rear scope mount.

The bolt is shorter to fit the reduced receiver length. It is a very light rifle and is very accurate. They come in stainless and with either a very nice walnut stock or a synthetic stock.

They also offer limited run models that feature odd calbers or things such as Mannlicher style of other fancy stocks.

The stocks come with shorter length of pull and youth models come with and even shorter length.

They're a pretty handy bolt gun.

As far as any complaints, I take issue with their use of a standard 700 bolt shroud as it hangs further of the back off the back of the shorter Model 7 firing pin assembly that it should and though it does hurt anything it looks like crapIMO, and you don't see the back of the pin assembly move out flush with the edge of the shroud when the rifle is ready to fire. I have turned down and reblued quite a few of the shrouds so they mimic the look they have on the 700's.

Secondly, if your looking the throw a lot of shot through t in a short period of time your accuracy will suufer bit due to the thin barrel heating up faster than most, though as a hunting rifle this won't be a problem.


This.... And I'll add that there are few after market parts available, so if you're looking to change out bottom metals, stocks ect then stick with the 700. The action screws are different iirc

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6/23/2012 5:09:21 AM EDT
[#16]
Good inflamation.  Thanx.
6/23/2012 5:42:12 AM EDT
[#17]
The Model 7 is a great hunting gun. I bought one in 243 new years ago and it is a deer slayer. I don't use it a whole lot since my 30-30 handles most of my needs but if I am hunting a big open spot I use it. It seems like the Model 7 is the gun people turn to once they realize they don't need a long, heavy rifle firing a cartridge way to powerful for deer. One of my buddies has one in 308 that is his elk rifle.

For a walk around varminter/calling gun the 223 would be OK but having one in 243 or better would be a more useful gun. Mine shoots dime size groups at 100. The 7 is a nice gun to have up your sleeve.


6/23/2012 5:57:38 AM EDT
[#18]
I have one in .308 that I got when I was 12––I'm 38 now.  Handles very well, well balanced too. Has put down many deer––longest shot I have taken was 80yds.
My model has iron sites.
6/23/2012 5:57:54 AM EDT
[#19]
I have one in .223 with a 4x Leupold on it.  Shot just fine out of the box but really came into it's own when i bedded the receiver.  

It's about as light as you can get a centerfire rifle to be and is very fast and handy.
6/23/2012 6:14:36 AM EDT
[#20]
I bought one in 20" stainless/syntehtic back in the '90's and traded it off and have regretted it ever since. It was a 7mm-08.

6/23/2012 6:25:38 AM EDT
[#21]
thinking of buying my son one for  his first deer rifle.


GR
6/23/2012 6:40:25 AM EDT
[#22]
I've wanted one in .243 or 7mm-08 for a while, but I've never actually seen one at a shop.

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6/23/2012 7:47:58 AM EDT
[#23]
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Your name is "Wag-Bag"  HAHAHAHAH  AWESOME!!!  

With a name like Wag-Bag I am almost certain you aren't some kind of fobbit mall ninja commando. You sir, have been somewhere that sucks.


6/23/2012 7:50:22 AM EDT
[#24]
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thinking of buying my son one for  his first deer rifle.


GR


Do it, and go with a youth model in 243.
6/23/2012 8:06:45 AM EDT
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thinking of buying my son one for  his first deer rifle.


GR


Do it, and go with a youth model in 243.


i thought about it but he's already 5"8"!

GR
6/23/2012 8:08:08 AM EDT
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thinking of buying my son one for  his first deer rifle.


GR


Do it, and go with a youth model in 243.


i thought about it but he's already 5"8"!

GR


LOL. Ok, then the youth model is out and he'd probably be ok with a larger caliber.
6/23/2012 8:38:46 AM EDT
[#27]
They are really quite crappy and unsafe.. Send it to me for proper disposal, please.    
6/23/2012 8:50:36 AM EDT
[#28]
If I came across one in .243 I'd rent myself out to fund the purchase.....



That's a joke,son    
6/23/2012 10:26:29 AM EDT
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thinking of buying my son one for  his first deer rifle.


GR


Do it, and go with a youth model in 243.


i thought about it but he's already 5"8"!

GR


LOL. Ok, then the youth model is out and he'd probably be ok with a larger caliber.



Im probably going to go 308. If he needs less recoil i'll get remingtons reduced recoil loads

GR
6/23/2012 10:27:28 AM EDT
[#30]
I'd say that's a great call.
6/23/2012 10:32:32 AM EDT
[#31]
Nice, light rifles. If it's pretty cheap & you're intending to just leave it as-is to shoot it stock, buy it. If you intend to tweak it with aftermarket stocks, triggers or barrel, eventually, get a 700. There are more aftermarket choices for the 700.
6/23/2012 11:00:31 AM EDT
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thinking of buying my son one for  his first deer rifle.


GR


Do it, and go with a youth model in 243.


i thought about it but he's already 5"8"!

GR


LOL. Ok, then the youth model is out and he'd probably be ok with a larger caliber.



Im probably going to go 308. If he needs less recoil i'll get remingtons reduced recoil loads

GR


I have a mauser sporter in .308, that is not much bigger than a model 7. The recoil isn't bad at all.

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6/24/2012 1:16:26 AM EDT
[#33]
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thinking of buying my son one for  his first deer rifle.


GR


Do it, and go with a youth model in 243.


i thought about it but he's already 5"8"!

GR


The youth model has amch shorter stock and as far as I know only comes as a plain maple? stock with no checkering or stylish contours, though that may have changed since I bought my son's. I could comfortably shoot the youth model and I'm 6'1" I just like the contour of the walnut stock better.

That .243 is wicked on deer.

You may want one for yourself once you shoot it, I did.

6/24/2012 2:31:45 AM EDT
[#34]
Dude...

Just type Remmington.


Rem my is not cool, ok?
6/24/2012 2:58:42 AM EDT
[#35]
no real interest in the Model Seven, but I kick myself for not buying a 673 in .350 Rem Mag while they were still being built
6/24/2012 3:44:40 AM EDT
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no real interest in the Model Seven, but I kick myself for not buying a 673 in .350 Rem Mag while they were still being built


Frind of mine has a 7 in 350RemMag; that thing shoots amazingly well. Another of his friends and I may go to war if a chance at that rifle ever comes up.

6/24/2012 6:44:47 AM EDT
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no real interest in the Model Seven, but I kick myself for not buying a 673 in .350 Rem Mag while they were still being built


I kick myself for not getting the special run 6.5 Rem Mag version.       I got the 300, Dad got the 350



 
6/24/2012 7:50:58 AM EDT
[#38]
Got one in. 300rsaum..light little rifle that has pretty stout recoil wih that round..approx 1moa or better with my hand
loads
6/24/2012 8:02:07 AM EDT
[#39]
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Dude...

Just type Remmington.


Rem my is not cool, ok?


But I need some more clips for my gun!  Or maybe another tube for my shotty, which I can get at teh funshow!

Oh, and it's "Remington".
6/24/2012 8:13:22 AM EDT
[#40]



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Dude...



Just type Remmington.





Rem my is not cool, ok?




But I need some more clips for my gun!  Or maybe another tube for my shotty, which I can get at teh funshow!



Oh, and it's "Remington".


Might as well pick up a couple boxes of those hollow points that can go through engine blocks





 
6/24/2012 8:19:59 AM EDT
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Dude...

Just type Remmington.


Rem my is not cool, ok?


But I need some more clips for my gun!  Or maybe another tube for my shotty, which I can get at teh funshow!

Oh, and it's "Remington".

Might as well pick up a couple boxes of those hollow points that can go through engine blocks

 


Seems like we got some comical chempounds here.
6/24/2012 8:28:35 AM EDT
[#42]
Thread needs more pics




6/24/2012 8:33:39 AM EDT
[#43]
And since it was mentioned...............




6/24/2012 8:35:18 AM EDT
[#44]
I wouldn't mind getting one in .300 blackout. I think that would make an excellent hunting combo.
 
6/24/2012 8:35:50 AM EDT
[#45]
I believe the Mod. 7 is actually closer related to the old discontinued 600 series carbines Remington sold years back.

I want one in .308 Winchester
6/24/2012 8:46:02 AM EDT
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I believe the Mod. 7 is actually closer related to the old discontinued 600 series carbines Remington sold years back.





I want one in .308 Winchester



Dimension wise, yea..   600-660-XP100



Although the factory trigger is a 700 style,  and is a HUGE improvement over the 600





 
6/24/2012 8:55:48 AM EDT
[#47]
I've owned quite a few over the years, and still own them in .243, .260, and 7mm-08.  They are one of the most perfect hunting rifles out there, but accuracy can be hit or miss.  Just realize theses are 3-shot guns, and trying to shoot 5-round groups can be an exercise in futility.
6/24/2012 9:01:50 AM EDT
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same gun as a 700 with a shorter barrel

NO the Model 7 is NOT the same as the M700,
I worked as a production gunsmith for Remington and the parts are NOT INTERCHANGEABLE!
The bolt release is totally different and the firecontrol is specific to the Model 7 the stock in also not interchangeable with short action M700s.

6/24/2012 9:50:27 AM EDT
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