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8/19/2013 2:35:41 PM EDT
WTF? These things are all over the road, cars are hitting them left and right. Why are these still allowed to be used? I'm not big on making stuff illegal, but this is far beyond effecting other people. I hit one in a rental car, tore entire front grill off and busted AC condenser two days ago(thank god for insurance), Today a was driving and saw a lady hit one with her drivers side front tire, sucked in into wheelwell and tore fender almost completely off, it was hanging up like a flag.. In heavy traffic, someone hits one and throws it in the air and you have no idea where it will land.. There's about 10 of them on the road every mile. I'm 100% for these being outlawed, who's with me?

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8/19/2013 3:22:31 PM EDT
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I pick them up and use them as fire starters
8/19/2013 3:27:29 PM EDT
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Retreads serve a great purpose: they keep the costs down on a vehicle that drives 12hrs a day.

The reason you see them blowout is because every tractor-trailer in the country uses them and just about every tractor-trailer drives hundreds of miles a day
8/19/2013 3:30:45 PM EDT
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I was behind a rig when it threw one.  The shrapnel was flying.  It slammed all over the front of my truck and windshield.  Scared the poop out of me.  Luckily there was minimal damage.
8/19/2013 3:36:35 PM EDT
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I had one come off a tractor trailer and nail the windshield of my Ford probe on the interstate in Norfolk, VA.... Only time in my life that I've literally shit myself.  





I tend to stay the fuck away from large trucks now, especially on the interstate.
8/19/2013 3:40:48 PM EDT
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Agree. It doesn't matter if they're retreads or new. You have thousands of trucks on the road running millions of miles a year. Tires are a normal wear item and they will blow out on a hard use vehicle. Outlawing them won't solve anything. You'll just hit a chunk of a new tire instead.

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8/19/2013 3:50:47 PM EDT
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80% of the cost of a tire in in the "carcass," Makes perfect economical sense to retread the tires when they are worn. Retread technology is so good that they equal that of new tires.

My personal opinion regard the tire failure is that they are under-inflated, and they build up heat; and BANG! tire failure.
8/19/2013 4:18:58 PM EDT
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Under inflation causes tire failure no matter if a tire is new or a retread. Many drivers are too lazy to check the tire pressure and sign off on the pretrip after a quick glance.




8/19/2013 4:22:49 PM EDT
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80% of the cost of a tire in in the "carcass," Makes perfect economical sense to retread the tires when they are worn. Retread technology is so good that they equal that of new tires.

My personal opinion regard the tire failure is that they are under-inflated, and they build up heat; and BANG! tire failure.
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A lot of research proves that is the case.  And more tread separations that take place due to under-inflated tires are new tires, not retreads.  When a retread throw its cap, it usually comes of in small pieces.  A new tire that is run underinflated is more likely to throw the entire tread section.

Had both happen in my time driving 18-wheelers.
8/19/2013 4:23:50 PM EDT
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there is a how it made on youtube about retreads.  looks like they just recap them
8/19/2013 4:27:22 PM EDT
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Retreads serve a great purpose: they keep the costs down on a vehicle that drives 12hrs a day.



The reason you see them blowout is because every tractor-trailer in the country uses them and just about every tractor-trailer drives hundreds of miles a day
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This.  Also, retreads are only allowed on non-powered axles.  They don't take a lot of stress if they are inflated properly.  You want new tires on every semi trailer in the US?  Be prepared to see a price spike in everything you buy.

 
8/19/2013 4:28:37 PM EDT
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That's all we use on our fleet drive tires for bucket trucks and digger dericks.  I have personally had 3 in the last two years come apart.  It's a good thing for duels or I may have done a lot more damage.  While I agree on the under inflation thing, it was not the case In my failures.
8/19/2013 4:30:10 PM EDT
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And you know these are retreads...how, exactly?
8/19/2013 4:42:18 PM EDT
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This.  Also, retreads are only allowed on non-powered axles.  They don't take a lot of stress if they are inflated properly.  You want new tires on every semi trailer in the US?  Be prepared to see a price spike in everything you buy.  
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Retreads serve a great purpose: they keep the costs down on a vehicle that drives 12hrs a day.



The reason you see them blowout is because every tractor-trailer in the country uses them and just about every tractor-trailer drives hundreds of miles a day
This.  Also, retreads are only allowed on non-powered axles.  They don't take a lot of stress if they are inflated properly.  You want new tires on every semi trailer in the US?  Be prepared to see a price spike in everything you buy.  
Wrong. The steer position is off limits for a recap. Drive and trailer are fine.



 
8/19/2013 4:49:01 PM EDT
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Check out https://www.treadwright.com/ for some quality retreads for your truck or Jeep.

8/19/2013 4:51:10 PM EDT
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Wrong. The steer position is off limits for a recap. Drive and trailer are fine.

 
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Retreads serve a great purpose: they keep the costs down on a vehicle that drives 12hrs a day.



The reason you see them blowout is because every tractor-trailer in the country uses them and just about every tractor-trailer drives hundreds of miles a day
This.  Also, retreads are only allowed on non-powered axles.  They don't take a lot of stress if they are inflated properly.  You want new tires on every semi trailer in the US?  Be prepared to see a price spike in everything you buy.  
Wrong. The steer position is off limits for a recap. Drive and trailer are fine.

 
You are correct. I stand corrected.  

 



And all of GD just exploded
8/19/2013 5:00:13 PM EDT
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This.  Also, retreads are only allowed on non-powered and steering axles.  They don't take a lot of stress if they are inflated properly.  You want new tires on every semi trailer in the US?  Be prepared to see a price spike in everything you buy.  
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Retreads serve a great purpose: they keep the costs down on a vehicle that drives 12hrs a day.

The reason you see them blowout is because every tractor-trailer in the country uses them and just about every tractor-trailer drives hundreds of miles a day
This.  Also, retreads are only allowed on non-powered and steering axles.  They don't take a lot of stress if they are inflated properly.  You want new tires on every semi trailer in the US?  Be prepared to see a price spike in everything you buy.  


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8/19/2013 5:10:47 PM EDT
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Retreads = Maypops
8/19/2013 5:31:38 PM EDT
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I run recaps on the trailer & virgin rubber on the truck. New tires start at $350 for the cheap shit. Caps for the trailer runs $250 and if taken care of will last a while. Got 230k miles on my drive tires and they should last another 40-50k. Steers made it to 220k. Trailer tires take a beating from curbs and ruin sidewalls

Like others said, under inflation causes 87% of the gators in the road.
8/19/2013 5:36:08 PM EDT
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I bought retreads for my 77 nova. I got good at changing tires
8/19/2013 5:45:22 PM EDT
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A lot of research proves that is the case.  And more tread separations that take place due to under-inflated tires are new tires, not retreads.  When a retread throw its cap, it usually comes of in small pieces.  A new tire that is run underinflated is more likely to throw the entire tread section.





Had both happen in my time driving 18-wheelers.
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80% of the cost of a tire in in the "carcass," Makes perfect economical sense to retread the tires when they are worn. Retread technology is so good that they equal that of new tires.





My personal opinion regard the tire failure is that they are under-inflated, and they build up heat; and BANG! tire failure.






A lot of research proves that is the case.  And more tread separations that take place due to under-inflated tires are new tires, not retreads.  When a retread throw its cap, it usually comes of in small pieces.  A new tire that is run underinflated is more likely to throw the entire tread section.





Had both happen in my time driving 18-wheelers.
I had a nearly new Michelin tire lose the tread, complete separation failure, boogered up the rear bumper cover on the car too. The tire wasn't under inflated or anything like that. The weather was particularly hot that day, around 105 degrees though. The place I bought the tires replaced all four under warranty, as one of the others was showing signs of failing in the same way.



ETA: This was on a 98 Plymouth Neon, so gators aren't always from a big truck.





 
8/19/2013 5:56:12 PM EDT
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You carry a spare tranny in the trunk too?
8/19/2013 6:08:48 PM EDT
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Those Novas were good cars.  The old ones.
8/19/2013 6:14:17 PM EDT
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You are correct. I stand corrected.    

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Recording this anomaly for posterity.

I've never seen someone admit they were wrong on the internet. Are you new here?
8/19/2013 6:17:22 PM EDT
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I had one go right next to me last week.  Scared the shit out of me.  I heard a "thumpthumpthump" coming from the truck, started backing off, and then BOOOOOOOOOM.  Sailed right through with barely a scratch on the car.  Danged miracle.  Missed chunks that would've come through the windshield or tore the underside out of the car by what couldn't have been more than inches.

It happens.