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11/30/2004 4:05:37 PM EDT
Do you take it? Do you serve it cold?

As for me, I do not. According to the Bible,

Romans 12
19Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"[1] says the Lord.



It's one of the hardest teachings of the Bible to follow, but a very crucial one. Whether you obey it or not can determine the outcome of the rest of your life.
11/30/2004 4:06:48 PM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
Do you take it? Do you serve it cold?

As for me, I do not. According to the Bible,

Romans 12
19Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"[1] says the Lord.



It's one of the hardest teachings of the Bible to follow, but a very crucial one. Whether you obey it or not can determine the outcome of the rest of your life.



Revenge is just Karma backwards.
11/30/2004 4:07:35 PM EDT
[#2]
Revenge is the Lord's, however, I believe that the Lord often times utilizes man to carry out his will so that more injustices will not be commited against the innocent.

"I will send my fear before thee, and will destroy all the people to whom thou shalt come, and I will make all thine enemies turn their backs unto thee." - Exodus 23:27
11/30/2004 4:10:10 PM EDT
[#3]
Anyone notice how the Christian God tells us not to seek revenge...but the Koran tells moslems
to do it all the time in the name of Allah!

More confusing facts about islam, the peaceful religion.
11/30/2004 4:11:13 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Anyone notice how the Christian God tells us not to seek revenge...but the Koran tells moslems
to do it all the time in the name of Allah!

More confusing facts about islam, the peaceful religion.




Shhh....they are watching.
11/30/2004 4:11:47 PM EDT
[#5]
There is NO defense against God's wrath.

And it won't reflect badly on you either.
11/30/2004 4:12:00 PM EDT
[#6]
*sigh*
11/30/2004 4:13:15 PM EDT
[#7]
I4NI
11/30/2004 4:14:52 PM EDT
[#8]
"Forgive us our tresspasses as we forgive those who tresspass against us."   Try to say this with my daughter each night.  I try not to be vengful.
11/30/2004 4:15:12 PM EDT
[#9]
Nope, what goes around, comes around. It usually works out.
11/30/2004 4:15:15 PM EDT
[#10]
Oh boy!  Another religious thread where'd get to be denigrated and called names by the Christians?   I think I'll pass.
11/30/2004 4:16:01 PM EDT
[#11]
It's not revenge..................It's punishment.
11/30/2004 4:16:41 PM EDT
[#12]
Yeah, well I am a SOLDIER of CHRIST, so there you go.


11/30/2004 4:17:23 PM EDT
[#13]

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Yeah, well I am a SOLDIER of CHRIST, so there you go.






So, what does that mean - that you take it...or not?
11/30/2004 4:18:48 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Oh boy!  Another religious thread where'd get to be denigrated and called names by the Christians?   I think I'll pass.



You're the "Capitol D-Bag" with a name like "CeramicGod".
11/30/2004 4:20:42 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Oh boy!  Another religious thread where'd get to be denigrated and called names by the Christians?   I think I'll pass.



You're the "Capitol D-Bag" with a name like "CeramicGod".



Hey, fantastic!   Thanks a bunch for that!
11/30/2004 4:20:55 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Yeah, well I am a SOLDIER of CHRIST, so there you go.






So, what does that mean - that you take it...or not?




If someone tries to dish it out to me, I DONT TAKE IT. (esspecially in the pooper)
If they try to "dish it out", it will fly back at them.  If you consider that revenge then thats your defintion.  But I am protected by God and there fore my enemies cannot hurt me.
11/30/2004 4:21:35 PM EDT
[#17]
I'm a christian and really, really don't see the point of this thread at all.
11/30/2004 4:21:39 PM EDT
[#18]

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Quoted:

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Yeah, well I am a SOLDIER of CHRIST, so there you go.






So, what does that mean - that you take it...or not?




If someone tries to dish it out to me, I DONT TAKE IT. (esspecially in the pooper)
If they try to "dish it out", it will fly back at them.  If you consider that revenge then thats your defintion.  But I am protected by God and there fore my enemies cannot hurt me.




Interesting statement.
11/30/2004 4:38:23 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
Oh boy!  Another religious thread where'd get to be denigrated and called names by the Christians?   I think I'll pass.



I dont blame you CeramicDildo.
12/1/2004 1:11:00 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

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Yeah, well I am a SOLDIER of CHRIST, so there you go.






So, what does that mean - that you take it...or not?




If someone tries to dish it out to me, I DONT TAKE IT. (esspecially in the pooper)
If they try to "dish it out", it will fly back at them.  If you consider that revenge then thats your defintion.  But I am protected by God and there fore my enemies cannot hurt me.




Interesting statement.




Thank You, Doesnt it say somewhere in the bible somthing about sell your coat and buy a sword?  
somthing like that...i donno
12/1/2004 1:14:48 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Oh boy!  Another religious thread where'd get to be denigrated and called names by the Christians?   I think I'll pass.



I dont blame you CeramicDildo.



Hey buddy, you're in violation of the code of conduct - and also, while we're at it:

Calling people dildos is extremely "Christlike".

12/1/2004 1:14:59 PM EDT
[#22]
Regarding reconciling  Military Service and Christianity, my model is Sergeant York.
12/1/2004 1:16:52 PM EDT
[#23]
Why should God have all the fun?
12/1/2004 1:17:36 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Oh boy!  Another religious thread where'd get to be denigrated and called names by the Christians?   I think I'll pass.



I dont blame you CeramicDildo.



go here
12/1/2004 1:19:30 PM EDT
[#25]
Ok, for the sake of argument let's say there is a god.  With all the things that this god has to do just to run a world do you think he/she would have time to give a shit if you keyed an ex-girlfriends car or pissed on the door of a buisness that screwed you over?  I doubt it.  He/she is way too busy letting assholes chop kids up with machetes in angola or raping their daughter in Bumfuck Egypt.  This god you use so liberaly to proclaim the wonders of the universe is the same god that allows abortion clinics and kiddie porn dealers.

No thank you. Keep your god to yourself.

edited -Oops! Forgot to put my troll up.
12/1/2004 1:24:06 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Ok, for the sake of argument let's say there is a god.  With all the things that this god has to do just to run a world do you think he/she would have time to give a shit if you keyed an ex-girlfriends car or pissed on the door of a buisness that screwed you over?  I doubt it.  He/she is way too busy letting assholes chop kids up with machetes in angola or raping their daughter in Bumfuck Egypt.  This god you use so liberaly to proclaim the wonders of the universe is the same god that allows abortion clinics and kiddie porn dealers.

No thank you. Keep your god to yourself.




Typical..
12/1/2004 1:26:06 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
Ok, for the sake of argument let's say there is a god.  With all the things that this god has to do just to run a world do you think he/she would have time to give a shit if you keyed an ex-girlfriends car or pissed on the door of a buisness that screwed you over?  I doubt it.  He/she is way too busy letting assholes chop kids up with machetes in angola or raping their daughter in Bumfuck Egypt.  This god you use so liberaly to proclaim the wonders of the universe is the same god that allows abortion clinics and kiddie porn dealers.

No thank you. Keep your god to yourself.

edited -Oops! Forgot to put my troll up.




Oh dude.   Now you've done it - you've made the invisble man that loves you and knows everything you do and think  so mad that you're going to hell for eternal torture and pain.   At least its loving torture and pain.
12/1/2004 1:27:15 PM EDT
[#28]
Not revenge... But I won't stand for being taken advantage of. I'm tired of people being rude to me and letting it slide. I let it roll off to a point- then if someone crosses the line, I feel it's necessary to show them that Christians aren't doormats. We're not all Mr. Rogers, thank-you-sir-may-I-have-another spineless people.
12/1/2004 1:27:23 PM EDT
[#29]
Lighten up knuckleheads!  I forgot to put my troll up.

Bite me!
12/1/2004 1:27:47 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
Nope, what goes around, comes around. It usually works out.



I agree, but would forsake Karma if something bad enough happened (spouse, child, brother murdered).


Is a pre-emptive military strike considered revenge? (ie: 9/11)
12/1/2004 1:30:01 PM EDT
[#31]


As a christian I'll do my best to continue to back up and back up until the wall appears.   Then the time for backing up and taking it will be over.  

Luckily the only one who was perfect was Jesus and because of that its OK if im not, but I only have to try my best.


mdp
12/1/2004 1:32:15 PM EDT
[#32]
can we start another thread so I don't see the name of the original poster here?
It's weird, you know... Like he haunted us from pre-ban or something...
12/1/2004 2:03:18 PM EDT
[#33]
Revenge, no.

Justice, YES and I serve it cold.
12/1/2004 3:11:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Self-defense is not revenge. Shoot to save yourself your family your country...okay.

Like I said, though, it's a HARD teaching to follow.
12/1/2004 3:18:13 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
Self-defense is not revenge. Shoot to save yourself your family your country...okay.

Like I said, though, it's a HARD teaching to follow.


weren't yuo banned?
12/1/2004 3:37:41 PM EDT
[#36]
Revenge is not an option for me.

I often sit and think about how good it might be to get even with the many people who have royally screwed me over in the past.  There have been about 10 of them so far in life.

Then I realize how sick they have made me by wanting this, and that a higher power will ultimately deal with us all.  So I have gotten used to being a target.  It seems to come with success.

"Taking revenge" is a poor option, and for actions there consequences.

The best "revenge" is when you finally read or hear about them going down hard on thier own, from their actions having consequences.



12/1/2004 3:40:02 PM EDT
[#37]
I don't get even... I get ahead.
12/1/2004 3:43:58 PM EDT
[#38]

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This god you use so liberaly to proclaim the wonders of the universe is the same god that allows abortion clinics and kiddie porn dealers.



God is slow to anger, but when He has had enough there is literal hell to pay.
12/1/2004 3:48:45 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
Oh boy!  Another religious thread where'd get to be denigrated and called names by the Christians?   I think I'll pass.



You and relgious threads are like moths to flames.  Why you don't have the self control to stay away is beyond me.

Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
12/1/2004 3:52:18 PM EDT
[#40]
I'm gonna give you a serious response to your question:
ah what the hell:
12/1/2004 4:37:25 PM EDT
[#41]
From the movie "Tombstone":

"It's not revenge, but a reckoning."

wganz
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