Posted: 9/6/2012 9:58:03 AM EDT
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Been interested in this. Watching the pilot now, since it's on Hulu, now.
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We were making primers and brass casings before electricity. That was the thought that entered my mind when I saw the preview. Apparantly firearms are "Technology" and don't work when the show's disaster occurs. Some tech, I can see. but, since most firearms today operate on springs and gasses, I call bullshit on their premise. |
The only thing I've seen have been the TV commercials - I can't wrap my head around that there are no firearms anywhere. It's not like there wouldn't be some stockpiles of bullets somewhere *cough* arfcom members *cough*, and gunpowder doesn't go bad just sitting in casings. 
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The only thing I've seen have been the TV commercials - I can't wrap my head around that there are no firearms anywhere. It's not like there wouldn't be some stockpiles of bullets somewhere *cough* arfcom members *cough*, and gunpowder doesn't go bad just sitting in casings. If it follows the premise of "Dies the Fire", then the ammo is still there - it simply doesn't function... The "Change" rendered any technology based on electricity, fission, fusion, high pressure, etc, non-viable... (ie: low pressure steam engines function but nothing more modern than that - not even HIGH pressure steam engines...) Absolutely no real-world explanation for such an event, but the series made for some enjoyable fiction. |
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Pilot was up on tuesday:
http://www.nbc.com/revolution/video/pilot/1415378 And yes there are guns, in the hands of some individuals. Funny though how some have eotechs when they "supposedly" don't work. A behind the scenes error methinks. |
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The only thing I've seen have been the TV commercials - I can't wrap my head around that there are no firearms anywhere. It's not like there wouldn't be some stockpiles of bullets somewhere *cough* arfcom members *cough*, and gunpowder doesn't go bad just sitting in casings. If it follows the premise of "Dies the Fire", then the ammo is still there - it simply doesn't function... The "Change" rendered any technology based on electricity, fission, fusion, high pressure, etc, non-viable... (ie: low pressure steam engines function but nothing more modern than that - not even HIGH pressure steam engines...) Absolutely no real-world explanation for such an event, but the series made for some enjoyable fiction. But in Revolution guns obviously work, the militia leader had a semi-auto pistol and many people had muzzle-loaders. Dies the fire was pretty hardcore about killing off technology, nothing beyond the twelfth century, period. |
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The only thing I've seen have been the TV commercials - I can't wrap my head around that there are no firearms anywhere. It's not like there wouldn't be some stockpiles of bullets somewhere *cough* arfcom members *cough*, and gunpowder doesn't go bad just sitting in casings. If it follows the premise of "Dies the Fire", then the ammo is still there - it simply doesn't function... The "Change" rendered any technology based on electricity, fission, fusion, high pressure, etc, non-viable... (ie: low pressure steam engines function but nothing more modern than that - not even HIGH pressure steam engines...) Absolutely no real-world explanation for such an event, but the series made for some enjoyable fiction. But in Revolution guns obviously work, the militia leader had a semi-auto pistol and many people had muzzle-loaders. Dies the fire was pretty hardcore about killing off technology, nothing beyond the twelfth century, period. I haven't seen the pilot - was just commenting for the benefit of those who hadn't read "Dies" (why I stated "IF it follows the premise...") Look interesting, i'll check it out. (Any half/full naked Celtic chicks strolling around????) |
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The only thing I've seen have been the TV commercials - I can't wrap my head around that there are no firearms anywhere. It's not like there wouldn't be some stockpiles of bullets somewhere *cough* arfcom members *cough*, and gunpowder doesn't go bad just sitting in casings. If it follows the premise of "Dies the Fire", then the ammo is still there - it simply doesn't function... The "Change" rendered any technology based on electricity, fission, fusion, high pressure, etc, non-viable... (ie: low pressure steam engines function but nothing more modern than that - not even HIGH pressure steam engines...) Absolutely no real-world explanation for such an event, but the series made for some enjoyable fiction. But in Revolution guns obviously work, the militia leader had a semi-auto pistol and many people had muzzle-loaders. Dies the fire was pretty hardcore about killing off technology, nothing beyond the twelfth century, period. I haven't seen the pilot - was just commenting for the benefit of those who hadn't read "Dies" (why I stated "IF it follows the premise...") Look interesting, i'll check it out. (Any half/full naked Celtic chicks strolling around????) The lead chick is cute but too young, there's a blonde with the obligatory British accent, haven't seen much else. 
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selective editing of the laws of physics Quoted: Quoted: The only thing I've seen have been the TV commercials - I can't wrap my head around that there are no firearms anywhere. It's not like there wouldn't be some stockpiles of bullets somewhere *cough* arfcom members *cough*, and gunpowder doesn't go bad just sitting in casings. If it follows the premise of "Dies the Fire", then the ammo is still there - it simply doesn't function... The "Change" rendered any technology based on electricity, fission, fusion, high pressure, etc, non-viable... (ie: low pressure steam engines function but nothing more modern than that - not even HIGH pressure steam engines...) Absolutely no real-world explanation for such an event, but the series made for some enjoyable fiction. |
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Quoted: Pilot was up on tuesday: http://www.nbc.com/revolution/video/pilot/1415378 And yes there are guns, in the hands of some individuals. Funny though how some have eotechs when they "supposedly" don't work. A behind the scenes error methinks. There is more going on that I'm sure the story will get into... The last scene of the pilot makes it pretty damn clear. Would EoTechs be working? Well... Guess they could be, if you consider the last scene. |
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The only thing I've seen have been the TV commercials - I can't wrap my head around that there are no firearms anywhere. It's not like there wouldn't be some stockpiles of bullets somewhere *cough* arfcom members *cough*, and gunpowder doesn't go bad just sitting in casings. If it follows the premise of "Dies the Fire", then the ammo is still there - it simply doesn't function... The "Change" rendered any technology based on electricity, fission, fusion, high pressure, etc, non-viable... (ie: low pressure steam engines function but nothing more modern than that - not even HIGH pressure steam engines...) Absolutely no real-world explanation for such an event, but the series made for some enjoyable fiction. Yeap |
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Pretty funny all these comments since, I actually watched the pilot last night. There is in fact plenty of gunfire, so guess y'all got it wrong. do they offer any kind of explanation of why the power went out, and has anyone rebuilt early 1900s technology like radios or simple generators? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Pretty funny all these comments since, I actually watched the pilot last night. There is in fact plenty of gunfire, so guess y'all got it wrong. do they offer any kind of explanation of why the power went out, and has anyone rebuilt early 1900s technology like radios or simple generators? No, but it's only the first episode. If they told the whole story in 45mins, what would be the point of making it into a tv series?  I had a completely different impression of this show after reading the numerous threads here... Then I'm sitting there watching it, I see dudes bustin' caps and I'm all like: Fuckin' Arfcom  It looks to be a decent show, from the start of things anyway. I was expecting some really stupid bullshit, but was surprised. There looks to be a sci-fi-ish element to it, but I'm basing that on the last scene, which was kind of a cliffhanger. At this point, I really don't know what the fuck is going on. But the one dude can kill people good, so there's that. |
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Pilot was up on tuesday: http://www.nbc.com/revolution/video/pilot/1415378 And yes there are guns, in the hands of some individuals. Funny though how some have eotechs when they "supposedly" don't work. A behind the scenes error methinks. There is more going on that I'm sure the story will get into... The last scene of the pilot makes it pretty damn clear. Would EoTechs be working? Well... Guess they could be, if you consider the last scene. Yeah, but that lady had that special necklace. I doubt Monroe had such a device (or even knew about it). |
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apparently they are going by the idea that its 15 years after the disaster. so most people would have shot up their ammo. the militia also mentioned possession of a firearm is a hanging offense, so that would keep most people from wanting to have one, and they were just talking about muzzleloaders, as much as any gun). there are guns about. militia commander had a semi auto handgun, ( desert eagle), and there are muskets/ muzzleloaders. the generals security guys have h&k ump subguns.
so im guessing there are lots of guns about, were just not seeing them yet. it kind of makes sense, if all electricity were to go tomorrow, and it could not be reinvented due to whatever killed the original technology and electricity. then ammo would run out pretty quickly for most people not sitting on a military base, or a huge ammo fort. although the muzzleloaders were cap locks, not flint locks, so i guess someone is making primers at least. i would be screwed, all i have are aimpoints  i need disaster proof acogs, they have the illumination strip and tritium, not much that can fail.
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I doubt Monroe had such a device (or even knew about it). Go back and rewatch the show. 
All Monroe knows is that Danny knew something and he might have told Miles which is why he sent men to look for them. But he doesn't know specifics. yeah. monroe was there when the brother got the phone call, so im guessing he knew the brother KNEW the blackout was coming. 
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apparently they are going by the idea that its 15 years after the disaster. so most people would have shot up their ammo. the militia also mentioned possession of a firearm is a hanging offense, so that would keep most people from wanting to have one, and they were just talking about muzzleloaders, as much as any gun). there are guns about. militia commander had a semi auto handgun, ( desert eagle), and there are muskets/ muzzleloaders. the generals security guys have h&k ump subguns. so im guessing there are lots of guns about, were just not seeing them yet. it kind of makes sense, if all electricity were to go tomorrow, and it could not be reinvented due to whatever killed the original technology and electricity. then ammo would run out pretty quickly for most people not sitting on a military base, or a huge ammo fort. although the muzzleloaders were cap locks, not flint locks, so i guess someone is making primers at least. i would be screwed, all i have are aimpoints i need disaster proof acogs, they have the illumination strip and tritium, not much that can fail.I would say all the heavy firepower is locked up to prevent mutiny. A couple of dudes with ARs vs a group with crossbows and muzzle loaders. Only a few select people would be given modern firearms. |
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Would planes really spin all out of control like, even with 100% power loss? They can glide for a bit. That's what i thought, but when i think of a plane crashing its because of 1 or 2 failures. Not because, literally everything shuts off. Would there even be control of the ailerons, flaps, or rudders? I know they are hydraulic, but wouldn't that require a working pump? |
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The only thing I've seen have been the TV commercials - I can't wrap my head around that there are no firearms anywhere. It's not like there wouldn't be some stockpiles of bullets somewhere *cough* arfcom members *cough*, and gunpowder doesn't go bad just sitting in casings. If it follows the premise of "Dies the Fire", then the ammo is still there - it simply doesn't function... The "Change" rendered any technology based on electricity, fission, fusion, high pressure, etc, non-viable... (ie: low pressure steam engines function but nothing more modern than that - not even HIGH pressure steam engines...) Absolutely no real-world explanation for such an event, but the series made for some enjoyable fiction. Keep in mind, I'm talking about the "Dies the Fire" series on which this seems to be (loosely) based - I haven't seen the episode being discussed so I have ZERO idea if the same concepts apply... |
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Would planes really spin all out of control like, even with 100% power loss? They can glide for a bit. That's what i thought, but when i think of a plane crashing its because of 1 or 2 failures. Not because, literally everything shuts off. Would there even be control of the ailerons, flaps, or rudders? I know they are hydraulic, but wouldn't that require a working pump? I believe they are designed to work even without engine power. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly_by_wire |
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From what I saw, seems the premise is that all electrical activity is being suppressed, by something fired up in the northeast from the looks of it. The necklace gadget seems to generate an electrical bubble. or at least nullify the suppression in a short radius. That's my WAG anyway.
As for the shortage of firearms, it's 17 years later with no manufacturing infrastructure. Any modern weaponry would be more like Book of Eli, sparing leftover rounds wherever possible. |
| It's not only the electricity that's out, the basic laws of physics seem to be all screwed up too. There was a guy running balls out toward a guy with a crossbow who shot him, when he was hit with the crossbow bolt it looked like he clothes-lined himself on a steel pipe anchored in to a brick wall.... |
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Pretty funny all these comments since, I actually watched the pilot last night. There is in fact plenty of gunfire, so guess y'all got it wrong. I said I only saw the commercials - everyone had swords and crossbows, they didn't show any firearms. Guess I'll watch the pilot and see if it's worthwhile. |
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Pretty funny all these comments since, I actually watched the pilot last night. There is in fact plenty of gunfire, so guess y'all got it wrong. I said I only saw the commercials - everyone had swords and crossbows, they didn't show any firearms. Guess I'll watch the pilot and see if it's worthwhile. The do mention right at the beginning when the militia enters their compound that having a firearm is a hanging offence Did anyone else notice that one scene where the daughter meets up with that one guy while she was getting water, was the same place of the last scene of walking dead season final . |
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Watched it last night rather than watching DNC socialist train wreck.
Some plot holes which is not too surprising. One that left me scratching my head was the narration in the beginning mentions even batteries being affected, yet at the end we see at least one guy with an EoTech on his rifle. Did I see right that the one brother who was military walked through the front gate of Camp Pendleton during one of the flash backs? Yet he ends up in Chicago for some reason years later? Also I don't think they mentioned where the community was located in the beginning, yet the group was able to walk, it appears, to Chicago pretty quickly. Also laughed at how clean, including teeth, everyone was. A somewhat not uncommon occurrence with many of these TV style post apocalyptic shows. |
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We were making primers and brass casings before electricity. That was the thought that entered my mind when I saw the preview. Apparantly firearms are "Technology" and don't work when the show's disaster occurs. False. The Militia Captain used a Desert Eagle to pop four villagers and Gen Monroe's sentries at the camp had sub guns. Fact is if every Militia member had an M4 or AK there would be ZERO ninja blade combat and crossbows.
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