User Panel
cop fucked up. finally, they have a legit reason to protest.
|
|
|
Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50: Didn't miss anything. Every officer there is complicit in the incident. I would like to see the officers evals in the last ten years and we will in time. I'm betting a history of fuck ups. If so, this needs to go up the chain with terminations of careers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RABIDFOX50: Originally Posted By MouseBoy: That cop is going down......and hard. I'm not really sure any riot was necessary. Was he in command? Because if not, the others present are going down too. Maybe I've missed something Didn't miss anything. Every officer there is complicit in the incident. I would like to see the officers evals in the last ten years and we will in time. I'm betting a history of fuck ups. If so, this needs to go up the chain with terminations of careers. looked like first or second degree murder and conspiracy to murder to me. But, what do I know |
|
|
|
When the Tide is out you can see who swims naked
AZ, USA
|
Originally Posted By MouseBoy: That cop is going down......and hard. I'm not really sure any riot was necessary. Was he in command? Because if not, the others present are going down too. Maybe I've missed something View Quote the problem with them / him going down is - that there have been to many incidents and nobody was hold accountable |
- Official ARFCOM Nickname: Hardware
- Originally Posted By elcope: Er ist ein Bier leener "It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice" H.P. Baxxter |
Originally Posted By Fantomas: the problem with them / him going down is - that there have been to many incidents and nobody was hold accountable View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Fantomas: Originally Posted By MouseBoy: That cop is going down......and hard. I'm not really sure any riot was necessary. Was he in command? Because if not, the others present are going down too. Maybe I've missed something the problem with them / him going down is - that there have been to many incidents and nobody was hold accountable I don't doubt that, but with cameras, the Rodney King thing should be < (That is, the Rodney K beating should be considered less egregious) |
|
|
Originally Posted By HSimpson: Agreed. His actions are not forgivable. I just think we should all wait at least a couple days for the whole story to come out. What happened immediately prior matters. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By HSimpson: Originally Posted By mattf: The difference here is, we saw it happen. The MSM can't take the video of the man dying out of context. We saw the cop kill him. Agreed. His actions are not forgivable. I just think we should all wait at least a couple days for the whole story to come out. What happened immediately prior matters. it really doesn't |
|
|
Murder 1, the other cop is an accessory to the murder.
|
|
|
When the Tide is out you can see who swims naked
AZ, USA
|
Originally Posted By MouseBoy: I don't doubt that, but with cameras, the Rodney King thing should be < View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MouseBoy: Originally Posted By Fantomas: Originally Posted By MouseBoy: That cop is going down......and hard. I'm not really sure any riot was necessary. Was he in command? Because if not, the others present are going down too. Maybe I've missed something the problem with them / him going down is - that there have been to many incidents and nobody was hold accountable I don't doubt that, but with cameras, the Rodney King thing should be < remember this - It was on Video and the Officer that shot Shaver walked - all what happened is he los this Job https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver Disturbing video shows unarmed man begging before fatal police shooting |
- Official ARFCOM Nickname: Hardware
- Originally Posted By elcope: Er ist ein Bier leener "It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice" H.P. Baxxter |
Originally Posted By Goodn: RR and Waco were fucked. I don't know enough about PA to speak of it. And should have seen a backlash. But alas. Obviously the Hood has more balls than us conservatives then. They get out and get shit on when they feel slighted. Some of the people here just hide in the basement and whine incessantly about it for years to come. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Goodn: Originally Posted By MikeJGA: Originally Posted By Goodn: Fucking lol. Cause a military action is the same as a police action. Oh wait. You are in Germany. Ruby Ridge, WACO, PA police bombing an apartment building. What goes around comes around. RR and Waco were fucked. I don't know enough about PA to speak of it. And should have seen a backlash. But alas. Obviously the Hood has more balls than us conservatives then. They get out and get shit on when they feel slighted. Some of the people here just hide in the basement and whine incessantly about it for years to come. Imagine a VA cop had done that to a boog boy during the VA protests? What then? |
|
"There is a time for peace and talk and reason; and then, at long last, and only with sadness of heart and mournful admission that all your wisdom and words have failed, you must go kill you some motherfuckers and set some of their shit on fire"
|
Call sign: Sly
"Well, my time of not taking you seriously is coming to a middle." |
Originally Posted By Fantomas: remember this - It was on Video and the Officer that shot Shaver walked - all what happened is he los this Job https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8 View Quote Yup. That video absolutely infuriated me on multiple levels. That was an execution. I have nothing else COC compliant to add about it. |
|
|
Originally Posted By Fantomas: remember this - It was on Video and the Officer that shot Shaver walked - all what happened is he los this Job https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Fantomas: Originally Posted By MouseBoy: Originally Posted By Fantomas: Originally Posted By MouseBoy: That cop is going down......and hard. I'm not really sure any riot was necessary. Was he in command? Because if not, the others present are going down too. Maybe I've missed something the problem with them / him going down is - that there have been to many incidents and nobody was hold accountable I don't doubt that, but with cameras, the Rodney King thing should be < remember this - It was on Video and the Officer that shot Shaver walked - all what happened is he los this Job https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8 My comment was ...this was way worse than Rodney King |
|
|
Originally Posted By Fantomas: remember this - It was on Video and the Officer that shot Shaver walked - all what happened is he los this Job https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8 View Quote Fired ex-Mesa police Officer Philip Brailsford rehired to help him get a public-safety pension |
|
Fuck every communist bandit, fuck the 50 cent army, fuck Winnie the Pooh, free Hong Kong, and long live the Republic of China!
China is asshole! |
When the Tide is out you can see who swims naked
AZ, USA
|
Originally Posted By MouseBoy: My comment was ...this was way worse than Rodney King View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MouseBoy: Originally Posted By Fantomas: Originally Posted By MouseBoy: Originally Posted By Fantomas: Originally Posted By MouseBoy: That cop is going down......and hard. I'm not really sure any riot was necessary. Was he in command? Because if not, the others present are going down too. Maybe I've missed something the problem with them / him going down is - that there have been to many incidents and nobody was hold accountable I don't doubt that, but with cameras, the Rodney King thing should be < remember this - It was on Video and the Officer that shot Shaver walked - all what happened is he los this Job https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8 My comment was ...this was way worse than Rodney King sorry I miss read that my apology must be the Beer Googles |
- Official ARFCOM Nickname: Hardware
- Originally Posted By elcope: Er ist ein Bier leener "It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice" H.P. Baxxter |
When the Tide is out you can see who swims naked
AZ, USA
|
Originally Posted By C4H10FO2P: Fired ex-Mesa police Officer Philip Brailsford rehired to help him get a public-safety pension View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By C4H10FO2P: Originally Posted By Fantomas: remember this - It was on Video and the Officer that shot Shaver walked - all what happened is he los this Job https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8 Fired ex-Mesa police Officer Philip Brailsford rehired to help him get a public-safety pension I had no Idea they rehired him |
- Official ARFCOM Nickname: Hardware
- Originally Posted By elcope: Er ist ein Bier leener "It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice" H.P. Baxxter |
Originally Posted By Fantomas: sorry I miss read that my apology must be the Beer Googles View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Fantomas: Originally Posted By MouseBoy: Originally Posted By Fantomas: Originally Posted By MouseBoy: Originally Posted By Fantomas: Originally Posted By MouseBoy: That cop is going down......and hard. I'm not really sure any riot was necessary. Was he in command? Because if not, the others present are going down too. Maybe I've missed something the problem with them / him going down is - that there have been to many incidents and nobody was hold accountable I don't doubt that, but with cameras, the Rodney King thing should be < remember this - It was on Video and the Officer that shot Shaver walked - all what happened is he los this Job https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8 My comment was ...this was way worse than Rodney King sorry I miss read that my apology must be the Beer Googles poor communication on my part. I fear the Demo-rats will leverage this in November. |
|
|
Anyone know if any of the cops have gotten charged with anything yet?
|
|
|
|
Fuck every communist bandit, fuck the 50 cent army, fuck Winnie the Pooh, free Hong Kong, and long live the Republic of China!
China is asshole! |
When the Tide is out you can see who swims naked
AZ, USA
|
Originally Posted By MouseBoy: poor communication on my part. I fear the Demorats will leverage this in the election. Now that I think of it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MouseBoy: Originally Posted By Fantomas: Originally Posted By MouseBoy: Originally Posted By Fantomas: Originally Posted By MouseBoy: Originally Posted By Fantomas: Originally Posted By MouseBoy: That cop is going down......and hard. I'm not really sure any riot was necessary. Was he in command? Because if not, the others present are going down too. Maybe I've missed something the problem with them / him going down is - that there have been to many incidents and nobody was hold accountable I don't doubt that, but with cameras, the Rodney King thing should be < remember this - It was on Video and the Officer that shot Shaver walked - all what happened is he los this Job https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8 My comment was ...this was way worse than Rodney King sorry I miss read that my apology must be the Beer Googles poor communication on my part. I fear the Demorats will leverage this in the election. Now that I think of it. you might be right with that assessment 6 month left till Election - long time for things to get worst |
- Official ARFCOM Nickname: Hardware
- Originally Posted By elcope: Er ist ein Bier leener "It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice" H.P. Baxxter |
When the Tide is out you can see who swims naked
AZ, USA
|
Originally Posted By C4H10FO2P: If it makes you feel better, they just rehired him temporarily so taxpayers could pay him $30k a year for the rest of his life to sit around on a permanent vacation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By C4H10FO2P: Originally Posted By Fantomas: I had no Idea they rehired him If it makes you feel better, they just rehired him temporarily so taxpayers could pay him $30k a year for the rest of his life to sit around on a permanent vacation. So I am paying for him to sit on his Ass Sweet |
- Official ARFCOM Nickname: Hardware
- Originally Posted By elcope: Er ist ein Bier leener "It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice" H.P. Baxxter |
Originally Posted By C4H10FO2P: Fired ex-Mesa police Officer Philip Brailsford rehired to help him get a public-safety pension View Quote See the system hard at work. You just need to have faith. |
|
|
Originally Posted By C4H10FO2P: If it makes you feel better, they just rehired him temporarily so taxpayers could pay him $30k a year for the rest of his life to sit around on a permanent vacation. View Quote I dont claim to be a mathematician but the math in that article didnt make sense to me. He got a 50% disability pension if he worked 20 years but a 4% deduction for every year less than 20. He worked >2 years so a (18 year) 72% deduction from a 50% pension is $2500 a month? They sure must make a lot down there. |
|
|
Originally Posted By Atomic_Ferret: Imagine a VA cop had done that to a boog boy during the VA protests? What then? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Atomic_Ferret: Originally Posted By Goodn: Originally Posted By MikeJGA: Originally Posted By Goodn: Fucking lol. Cause a military action is the same as a police action. Oh wait. You are in Germany. Ruby Ridge, WACO, PA police bombing an apartment building. What goes around comes around. RR and Waco were fucked. I don't know enough about PA to speak of it. And should have seen a backlash. But alas. Obviously the Hood has more balls than us conservatives then. They get out and get shit on when they feel slighted. Some of the people here just hide in the basement and whine incessantly about it for years to come. Imagine a VA cop had done that to a boog boy during the VA protests? What then? IMO I think it would've played out the same without the semi violent protests. In my observations (which mean shit BTW) boog bois like the idea of a revolution to gain freedom back, but no one wants to be the one to start it (understandable). In VA, they were told not to cross this line if you were carrying firearms, and they didn't. And from what I've read it was ok to carry firearms and be on the lawn years past. Now look at the protests that get started because an unarmed black guy was killed, the protesters destroyed squad cars, threw rocks at cops, and if I'm not mistaken cop's personal vehicles as well which is what drew the tear gas and flash bangs. They aren't afraid to go toe to toe with the law if Ferg is any indication. |
|
|
Originally Posted By Goodn: The complete video is bad. In the first video he got out of his suv and cuffed immediately. Looks to have gotten upset about being arrested, Not fighting upset, emotional, crying upset. Brought to the sidewalk where he continued to be emotional. View Quote Thank you. I really wanted it to be different. Just didn’t make sense that they got him on the ground in such an aggressive way that makes any sense except a struggle. Guess I understand the rage now. |
|
|
Originally Posted By MCREBELL: What happened is inexcusable, but the fact that you always hear dont judge me because I'm black, then they shouldn't bla6the whole department because of the actions of one, or two bad cops. their a bunch of hippocrates. View Quote Are they? Race is a much broader population than those who self-select to enter law enforcement (or any profession). Once hired, they undergo training that further conforms their viewpoint and actions. Lastly, you can quit your job in protest but you can't change your genetics. |
|
|
Fuck those four cops. The two on his back at anytime could have said lets put this guy in the truck before we kill him. Fuck Wuhan Charlie all puffed up not listening to the people to check his pulse. Most of all fuck the tard cop with his knee on the guys neck. Fuck them all.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Even if Floyd active resisted while in cuffs, the first thing you do is gain compliance then put him in the back of a patrol vehicle. Suspect is secured and restrained from fleeing, harming others and harming himself. The earlier security video showed initial contact with Floyd and a patrol vehicle steps away from where he was cuffed. Why didn't they put him in that vehicle? Why did they walk him a half a block to the other patrol vehicle? It's basic stuff. Secure the suspect to avoid any problems. These guys were manufacturing problems!
|
|
Call sign: Sly
"Well, my time of not taking you seriously is coming to a middle." |
Originally Posted By Fantomas: remember this - It was on Video and the Officer that shot Shaver walked - all what happened is he los this Job https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8 View Quote Shaver played a lethal game of Simon Says that day. Or perhaps it was the hokey-pokey. PUT YOUR LEFT LEG IN!!! PUT YOUR LEFT LEG OUT!!! PUT YOUR RIGHT LEG IN!!! SHAKE IT ALL ABOUT!!! GODDAMNIT I SAID RIGHT LEG!!! -BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM- (I shouldn't joke about these things, but laughing's better than crying) |
|
|
|
Originally Posted By FALFOX: Shaver played a lethal game of Simon Says that day. Or perhaps it was the hokey-pokey. PUT YOUR LEFT LEG IN!!! PUT YOUR LEFT LEG OUT!!! PUT YOUR RIGHT LEG IN!!! SHAKE IT ALL ABOUT!!! GODDAMNIT I SAID RIGHT LEG!!! -BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM- (I shouldn't joke about these things, but laughing's better than crying) View Quote It was his fault for not being able to comply with absurd requests being shouted to him at gun point in a surprise game of drunk life or death twister. |
|
|
Soooo, say you’re there at the scene, watching what appears to be a murder occurring, at what point would you be justified to use force to stop the crime?
|
|
Libenter homines id quod volunt credunt.
|
Originally Posted By mattf: The difference here is, we saw it happen. The MSM can't take the video of the man dying out of context. We saw the cop kill him. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mattf: Originally Posted By HSimpson: Hard to believe I agree with BLM but that was cold hearted murder. Hard to watch. I had to stop. Still need to see the preceding video before I form a final opinion. If he had tried to take an officers weapon or had a long violent history it might make a difference. Not saying it justifies the killing but at least maybe it would make it understandable. We all know how much mainstream media takes stuff out of context to the extreme. The difference here is, we saw it happen. The MSM can't take the video of the man dying out of context. We saw the cop kill him. Take out of context, no. But they take things like this and exploit them to fabricate some political narrative. Actually they do this almost without fail. |
|
|
So have any rioters died yet?
|
|
Comrade Deputy Vice Chancellor of People's Department of Truthful Confession of the .40 S&W Army
If wishes were horses, we would all be eating steak..... |
Originally Posted By llanero: Soooo, say you’re there at the scene, watching what appears to be a murder occurring, at what point would you be justified to use force to stop the crime? View Quote In this case ? Technically it might be legal, but you'd never get away with it. If he lived, the seriousness of the situation would be greatly diminished. They'd argue you overplayed the dangers. They'd get a conviction on you I'm sure. If you even lived to get to court. Sucks but that's just the way it is. |
|
|
When the Tide is out you can see who swims naked
AZ, USA
|
Originally Posted By llanero: Soooo, say you’re there at the scene, watching what appears to be a murder occurring, at what point would you be justified to use force to stop the crime? View Quote you know I have no idea but I have thought about that a few times what would happen if people would act? There was an incident with a Guy in New York (they arrested for no Social Distancing) the Cops where out numbered - if the people watching and recording would intervene what would the outcome be I am not sure how this would play out but sooner or later we will find out |
- Official ARFCOM Nickname: Hardware
- Originally Posted By elcope: Er ist ein Bier leener "It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice" H.P. Baxxter |
Originally Posted By Fidel_Cashflow: Protests are useless for the most part. How many protests have happened in California, Michigan, Illinois or other states over this lockdown garbage and what has changed as a result? For better or worse violence makes shit happen. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Fidel_Cashflow: Originally Posted By crzapy: This is one of those times when I can rightfully understand the anger of the black community. The kneeling cop just set public opinion of police even further lower. ETA: protests are okay. Mobs burning and looting just enforces other stereotypes. Protests are useless for the most part. How many protests have happened in California, Michigan, Illinois or other states over this lockdown garbage and what has changed as a result? For better or worse violence makes shit happen. Truth! I think our Founding Fathers, who had just fought a long bloody violent & difficult war, understood that point completely, thus we have the 2nd Amendment as the back up to the rest of the Constitution... Remember that... |
|
|
Originally Posted By llanero: Soooo, say you’re there at the scene, watching what appears to be a murder occurring, at what point would you be justified to use force to stop the crime? View Quote I'd say at that point you describe. To what extent that good deed is punished is another matter. |
|
|
Originally Posted By FALFOX: Shaver played a lethal game of Simon Says that day. Or perhaps it was the hokey-pokey. PUT YOUR LEFT LEG IN!!! PUT YOUR LEFT LEG OUT!!! PUT YOUR RIGHT LEG IN!!! SHAKE IT ALL ABOUT!!! GODDAMNIT I SAID RIGHT LEG!!! -BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM- (I shouldn't joke about these things, but laughing's better than crying) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FALFOX: Originally Posted By Fantomas: remember this - It was on Video and the Officer that shot Shaver walked - all what happened is he los this Job https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8 Shaver played a lethal game of Simon Says that day. Or perhaps it was the hokey-pokey. PUT YOUR LEFT LEG IN!!! PUT YOUR LEFT LEG OUT!!! PUT YOUR RIGHT LEG IN!!! SHAKE IT ALL ABOUT!!! GODDAMNIT I SAID RIGHT LEG!!! -BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM- (I shouldn't joke about these things, but laughing's better than crying) That wasn't Shaver, that was the Sargent. |
|
|
Originally Posted By EastonHockey20: The video here shows the video. Goes for several minutes with the officer putting full weight on the guys neck with the guy saying he cant breathe. You can see the point where the guy goes unresponsive, and the officer continues to keep weight on the guys neck. All while his partner stands idly by. The cop, along with his partner should be brought up on charges. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsc2ivfk9rY View Quote We are taught to NEVER ever do that - that is insanity. |
|
|
Origionally Posted By sparticus2002:
Of course the Electoral system is a threat to democracy; it's specifically intended to be a threat to democracy, because we aren't a democracy |
|
Violence makes the grass grow and the world change. MPD brought this bullshit on themselves, they should have to pay to clean it up. Or they could take the officers and give them to the mob.
|
|
Do you hear the people sing, singing the song of angry men.
|
Originally Posted By waldershrek: This is a meme worth picture View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By waldershrek: Originally Posted By thesilvercord: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/327183/D4792DFE-6597-4D7E-BC71-1BC3597BC720_jpe-1434251.JPG This is a meme worth picture Is this bad enough? Attached File |
|
|
Origionally Posted By sparticus2002:
Of course the Electoral system is a threat to democracy; it's specifically intended to be a threat to democracy, because we aren't a democracy |
When the Tide is out you can see who swims naked
AZ, USA
|
Originally Posted By armoredman: Is this bad enough? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/360589/idiots_jpg-1434535.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By armoredman: Originally Posted By waldershrek: Originally Posted By thesilvercord: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/327183/D4792DFE-6597-4D7E-BC71-1BC3597BC720_jpe-1434251.JPG This is a meme worth picture Is this bad enough? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/360589/idiots_jpg-1434535.JPG |
- Official ARFCOM Nickname: Hardware
- Originally Posted By elcope: Er ist ein Bier leener "It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice" H.P. Baxxter |
|
So what all ended up being burnt last night? Is the party still going or did someone finally shit themself on the livingroom sofa?
|
|
|
Originally Posted By Trueweltall: I think you mean sergeant. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Trueweltall: Originally Posted By David0858: That wasn't Shaver, that was the Sargent. I think you mean sergeant. I didn't think the spelling nazis would be out this time of the morning. That's what my spell checker said, I knew it wasn't right but fuck it. |
|
|
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.