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Link Posted: 5/27/2020 2:07:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bgdtx:



Bottom pic. No mag in rifle.
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And his support hand on the back of the guy in front of him? Yeah, he's gonna be able to control that rifle when the dude's elbow hits it.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 2:14:21 PM EST
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Scribed just to see where this one goes.  I currently support the protestors unless there is something we don't know.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 2:26:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Shenanigunz:

I think you mean Bush.  That DoD Directive was effective 15 JAN 1993.

1/4 point for you  
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I worked for JTF-N, back then it was JTF-6.

The people that were covered under the initial DOD approval were not the same ones driving the armored vehicles, that request came later, under the new POTUS... Clinton, who was sworn in on 20 JAN 93.

The initial approval was for "special" counter drug forces and training, under the authorizations that JTF-6 had for DSCA, IF a drug nexus could be established. Miraculously, the ATF/FBI found one.



BOT I guess national news isn't going to cover what happened in MN last night since the space launch is going on today.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 2:27:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx:


Support or not, they were involved in Waco.

So much for holding up their oaths.
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When you excuse fucked up cops by saying "But the military..." it does not help your case.

Link Posted: 5/27/2020 2:28:14 PM EST
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My question is "what makes it Ok to do that"?

Is it pure ignorance that he might be killing someone? You have to believe the answer is no, he was being told as much.

I have to believe that the behavior of his leadership made that acceptable and Ok. If it wasn't acceptable, the other cops standing around would have stopped him. He believed it was ok because he was either told it was ok or he'd seen it happen before without repercussion. People do what is in their own best interests. He didn't see this as having a negative consequence for him or he wouldn't have done it.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 2:35:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Capt_Rhodes:
Did I just watch two cops intentionally murder a guy in full view of a crowd?  
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No, you saw four cops murder a guy in full view of a crowd.  Three cops were on the guy, all six knees--his neck, his back, his hips, and his legs.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 2:40:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GreyHat:


It's not a perfect system but it's the one we've got. You can't discount all rioters because a few made mistakes under pressure. These are tough decisions made in the heat of the moment, and you should be thankful there are rioters willing to stand on the wall against violent officials so untrained civilians can sleep at night. etc.
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Originally Posted By GreyHat:
Originally Posted By nmxdavenn:
So you are saying the reports of shootings and explosions are justified because of the actions of two shitty cops?

How many people should die?


It's not a perfect system but it's the one we've got. You can't discount all rioters because a few made mistakes under pressure. These are tough decisions made in the heat of the moment, and you should be thankful there are rioters willing to stand on the wall against violent officials so untrained civilians can sleep at night. etc.


This forum needs a 'like' button.


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Link Posted: 5/27/2020 2:44:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Fantomas:
remember this - It was on Video and the Officer that shot Shaver walked - all what happened is he los this Job

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver

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That was a straight-up execution. There is simply nothing else to say.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 2:47:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By C4H10FO2P:
Originally Posted By Fantomas:
remember this - It was on Video and the Officer that shot Shaver walked - all what happened is he los this Job

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8

Fired ex-Mesa police Officer Philip Brailsford rehired to help him get a public-safety pension

Damn. Unbelievable.

Scratch that. It's believable.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 2:54:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ArmyPilot12:

I worked for JTF-N, back then it was JTF-6.

The people that were covered under the initial DOD approval were not the same ones driving the armored vehicles, that request came later, under the new POTUS... Clinton, who was sworn in on 20 JAN 93.

The initial approval was for "special" counter drug forces and training, under the authorizations that JTF-6 had for DSCA, IF a drug nexus could be established. Miraculously, the ATF/FBI found one.



BOT I guess national news isn't going to cover what happened in MN last night since the space launch is going on today.
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This was an isolated "medical event" ................. please carry on.

Thank you for your cooperation and have a nice day.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 3:29:59 PM EST
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Chopper is live crowds gathering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKu4ZURaago
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 3:36:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By daveo:
Chopper is live crowds gathering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKu4ZURaago
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Link Posted: 5/27/2020 3:41:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

That was a straight-up execution. There is simply nothing else to say.
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Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Originally Posted By Fantomas:
remember this - It was on Video and the Officer that shot Shaver walked - all what happened is he los this Job

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8

That was a straight-up execution. There is simply nothing else to say.
I remember all of the rioting and protesting that stemmed from that event when it was all over the news and being covered by every media outlet.

Everything I just said was a lie. I'm not saying I wanted those those things to happen, but the double standard is glaringly apparent. This guy was the wrong color, so it'll be a circus.

Anyway the officer in this case needs to do time for manslaughter at a minimum.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 3:41:59 PM EST
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I'm surprised there isn't more damage from last night.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 3:45:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By daveo:
Chopper is live crowds gathering

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What a world we live in when you can live stream a riot 1500 miles away from your phone onto your tv from the safety of your home.


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Link Posted: 5/27/2020 3:46:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PantherArms762:

What a world we live in when you can live stream a riot 1500 miles away from your phone onto your tv from the safety of your home. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/116126/2CDBAD8F-2BA2-4726-8A21-DBC29F19B383_jpe-1435034.JPG
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LOL, technology! Turn it around!
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 3:47:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By daveo:

LOL, technology! Turn it around!
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Definitely a bug in the system. “Hey this picture has too many pixels, turn it upside down.”
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 3:51:21 PM EST
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A crowd has formed next to the liquor store. That guy is so screwed!
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 3:52:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PantherArms762:

What a world we live in when you can live stream a riot 1500 miles away from your phone onto your tv from the safety of your home.


https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/116126/52A869E9-D715-4AD1-8367-7A0676EAB806_jpe-1435037.JPG
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Originally Posted By PantherArms762:
Originally Posted By daveo:
Chopper is live crowds gathering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKu4ZURaago

What a world we live in when you can live stream a riot 1500 miles away from your phone onto your tv from the safety of your home.


https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/116126/52A869E9-D715-4AD1-8367-7A0676EAB806_jpe-1435037.JPG



what you Drinking?

Link Posted: 5/27/2020 3:53:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
I'm surprised there isn't more damage from last night.
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Last night was more of a flash mob and it was raining most of the time.

If anything happens tonight it will probably be more hardcore, "professional", protestors that have had a day of planning.

Based on the current video:
Street is still open to vehicular traffic. God forbid someone hits a protestor. The mob will turn on the driver and there will more than likely be blood. Fire too.
I didn't see any rear security posted at the police station. Could be a big mistake if the protestors are even somewhat organized.
Boarding up the front doors also limits visibility. If they have bullet/shatter resistant glass in them it probably isn't a smart move since all the other windows aren't boarded.
Dumpsters in the alleyway make for good cover but can also be used to start big fires, which is what this whole situation has been from the beginning... a huge dumpster fire.
Looks like the crowd is already bigger than last night.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 3:57:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PantherArms762:

What a world we live in when you can live stream a riot 1500 miles away from your phone onto your tv from the safety of your home.


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Thank you for at least shaving your toes first.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:01:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 556therapy:
A crowd has formed next to the liquor store. That guy is so screwed!
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I’d have been preparing coolers full of ice, beer, wine, and other warm weather booze, then set it up outside my store with a ‘TAKE ONE OR A FEW BUT LEAVE SOME FOR YOUR FELLOW LOOTERS/PROTESTERS’ sign next to it.

That should do it, or at least give them something to think about.

“Maybe if we leave this guy alone, he’ll set out more tomorrow night, but if we burn him out now, we have a long walk ahead of us to get more..”
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:02:33 PM EST
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Not trying to second guess trained decisions here, and perhaps some cops can chime in...but from the current live video it looks like the police don't have a very good initial setup for tonight's festivities. They are backed into a tunnel, and aside from some plywood, most of the station exterior and the one neighboring business don't look secured.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:03:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Turboguy:


It isn't murder 1. Murder 1 implies he planned it in advance. Like he was driving around saying, "Imma kneel on that motherfucker's neck" long in advance.

Murder 3 maybe. Manslaughter definitely.
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Originally Posted By Turboguy:
Originally Posted By MyAliyah:
Murder 1, the other cop is an accessory to the murder.


It isn't murder 1. Murder 1 implies he planned it in advance. Like he was driving around saying, "Imma kneel on that motherfucker's neck" long in advance.

Murder 3 maybe. Manslaughter definitely.




Doesn't sound as cool.

Murder 1 man.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:06:50 PM EST
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Training? Or is that Rhoades scholar going in without a mag?
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:07:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By daveo:
Chopper is live crowds gathering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKu4ZURaago
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Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:11:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By daveo:
Chopper is live crowds gathering

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Oh no, please, stop
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:12:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CyberSEAL:
Not trying to second guess trained decisions here, and perhaps some cops can chime in...but from the current live video it looks like the police don't have a very good initial setup for tonight's festivities. They are backed into a tunnel, and aside from some plywood, most of the station exterior and the one neighboring business don't look secured.
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They took them by surprise.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:12:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By daveo:
Chopper is live crowds gathering

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You know that’s really what the news should be, silent recording of events, let people form their own conclusions rather than be spoon fed propaganda.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:13:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Enzo300:


They took them by surprise.
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As in they weren't expecting this to start in the late afternoon?
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:14:14 PM EST
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That crowd is much more diverse (actual dictionary definition) that I would have thought.

I don't know the initiating incident.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:14:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By seamasterpro:


You know that’s really what the news should be, silent recording of events, let people form their own conclusions rather than be spoon fed propaganda.
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Not live anymore. That's a recording of earlier coverage.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:20:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bloencustoms:

Not how I remember it. Obama raised the left's expectations and they got their hopes up that "change" was going to be permanent. Then Trump won and started dismantling the shit Obama forced on us and the left has been losing their shit over it.
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Ok, I’ll play.  Show me where trump has restricted local/state agencies access to dermo’d DOD gear and programs and funding that was expanded drastically under Obama?  Can’t find examples, it’s because he too wants that to continue and has expanded access to funds/equipment/resources that law enforcement doesn’t need.  It’s almost like politicians at the federal level want to increase control and funding of state and local agencies to work towards a national federal homogeny.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:23:57 PM EST
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Notice most of these protesters are white?
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:25:12 PM EST
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Is that Childish Gambino?
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:25:31 PM EST
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Gotta virtue signal like a mofo.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:27:21 PM EST
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Live feed outside the cops house!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUoPOrup9Dc
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:28:05 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Fourays2:

I also miss big boobs venelualan riot chicka
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Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:31:55 PM EST
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Because this is about a dead man, murdered on video, in unquestionably wrong circumstances after LE has shown they'll enforce anything the chief tells them to.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:32:38 PM EST
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Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:33:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AhoogahLoop:


Because this is about a dead man, murdered on video, in unquestionably wrong circumstances after LE has shown they'll enforce anything the chief tells them to.
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Originally Posted By AhoogahLoop:
Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
Notice most of these protesters are white?


Because this is about a dead man, murdered on video, in unquestionably wrong circumstances after LE has shown they'll enforce anything the chief tells them to.


Link to the Chief ordering his officers to schwak the guy.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:33:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JCIN:

When you excuse fucked up cops by saying "But the military..." it does not help your case.

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Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx:


Support or not, they were involved in Waco.

So much for holding up their oaths.

When you excuse fucked up cops by saying "But the military..." it does not help your case.



Is that what I said?

Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:34:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By silver_back110:


Link to the Chief ordering his officers to schwak the guy.
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General terms. Covid shit has opened a lot of eyes to "just following orders"
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:36:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AhoogahLoop:


General terms. Covid shit has opened a lot of eyes to "just following orders"
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Originally Posted By AhoogahLoop:
Originally Posted By silver_back110:


Link to the Chief ordering his officers to schwak the guy.


General terms. Covid shit has opened a lot of eyes to "just following orders"


So no.  Got it
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:38:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AhoogahLoop:


General terms. Covid shit has opened a lot of eyes to "just following orders"
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Originally Posted By AhoogahLoop:
Originally Posted By silver_back110:


Link to the Chief ordering his officers to schwak the guy.


General terms. Covid shit has opened a lot of eyes to "just following orders"


So the Chief didn’t order his officers to kill suspects without cause?
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:40:16 PM EST
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Stupid question time.....what is the goal of continued protesting at this point?  The 4 cops involved have been fired / arrested....other than a good excuse to tear shit up what else do they want?
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:41:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By LandKruiser:


Gotta virtue signal like a mofo.
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Originally Posted By LandKruiser:
Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
Notice most of these protesters are white?


Gotta virtue signal like a mofo.


I don't think that's what this is. lol
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:43:23 PM EST
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They just said big protest at 5:00 by the precinct.
Link Posted: 5/27/2020 4:45:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By fox2008:
Stupid question time.....what is the goal of continued protesting at this point?  The 4 cops involved have been fired / arrested....other than a good excuse to tear shit up what else do they want?
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Not aware of any arrests yet. What do they want? Dead cops I’m pretty sure
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