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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:33:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRTsHaircut: We need to shine the light on these cock holsters. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
We need to shine the light on these cock holsters. thats a perfect example of why people with certain views should not be allowed in gov, or purged from gov when those views become known. if you cant be neutral politically when your a gov employee, and enforce the rules equally to everyone, then you should not be a gov employee. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:33:36 AM EST
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Originally Posted By BigReb: You fucks convinced me of nod necessity last night. Ordered my shit today.  Which did you get @BigReb |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:35:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunner226: So it appears most of us are in agreement that the cop who killed the guy who was fighting with him after the cop tried to arrest him for trying to steal from a business (by using counterfeit money) should hang for murder. But we're ALSO mostly condoning or outright advocating for the idea that shop owners are totally justified in killing anybody who tries to steal from or damage their business during the riot. Is there a contradiction here, or is it just me? It seems like at least with the cop situation, there was an attempt to follow due process before the bad guy fought that process and then the cop overstepped and negligently killed him. In the riot situation there is no attempt at due process - we just skip right to the killin'. At the end of both scenarios, someone died because they tried to steal stuff. Before anyone starts with the "passing counterfeit money isn't the same as looting" argument, would you be okay with the cop's actions if Floyd had done a smash-n-grab instead? The cop's actions should be wrong no matter what the offense was, correct? I still hold the cop was over the line, and it *seems* like shop owners should be able to defend their stores, but I'm having a hard time making a logical argument why the cop's actions should be murder, but the shop owner's wouldn't be. Self-defense isn't murder. You really need it explained? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:36:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vengeance6661: Why did the guy video taping it continuously say "no no" then? It makes a lot more sense actually- they went streaming into the one house but you can see the guy outside stop and hesitate when the camera guy says no. In that context it looks like outside guy is acknowledging the camera guy and respecting his wishes. If they were just breaking in I'd not expect them to stop because someone asked them not to. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:38:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HTHF: Bat shit crazy lesbian: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/bishop-mariann-budde-600x405.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HTHF: Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: Originally Posted By thesilvercord: Somebody is triggered!
Your church was broken into and LIT ON FIRE you dumbass...and you're taking it out on Trump?  Bat shit crazy lesbian: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/bishop-mariann-budde-600x405.jpg It's the DC Episcopalians, so nobody was probably using the church anyway. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:38:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37: Or a pair of pliers and your Father's fingers. Or worse. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37: Originally Posted By madwis15: My father in law in Taiwan is a goldsmith. He was robbed decades ago and that prompted him to get some serious safes. They are huge, weigh multiple tons each and firmly bolted to the floor. They make my gun safe look like a tinker toy. It would take a determined person many hours, if not days to get into those! Or a pair of pliers and your Father's fingers. Or worse. Happened in Houston. You can Carnak the suspects background, and not be wrong. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:38:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunner226: So it appears most of us are in agreement that the cop who killed the guy who was fighting with him after the cop tried to arrest him for trying to steal from a business (by using counterfeit money) should hang for murder. But we're ALSO mostly condoning or outright advocating for the idea that shop owners are totally justified in killing anybody who tries to steal from or damage their business during the riot. Is there a contradiction here, or is it just me? It seems like at least with the cop situation, there was an attempt to follow due process before the bad guy fought that process and then the cop overstepped and negligently killed him. In the riot situation there is no attempt at due process - we just skip right to the killin'. At the end of both scenarios, someone died because they tried to steal stuff. Before anyone starts with the "passing counterfeit money isn't the same as looting" argument, would you be okay with the cop's actions if Floyd had done a smash-n-grab instead? The cop's actions should be wrong no matter what the offense was, correct? I still hold the cop was over the line, and it *seems* like shop owners should be able to defend their stores, but I'm having a hard time making a logical argument why the cop's actions should be murder, but the shop owner's wouldn't be. We are way beyond that at this point in my opinion. The actions of the last few nights are no longer about George Floyd. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:39:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunner226: So it appears most of us are in agreement that the cop who killed the guy who was fighting with him after the cop tried to arrest him for trying to steal from a business (by using counterfeit money) should hang for murder. But we're ALSO mostly condoning or outright advocating for the idea that shop owners are totally justified in killing anybody who tries to steal from or damage their business during the riot. Is there a contradiction here, or is it just me? It seems like at least with the cop situation, there was an attempt to follow due process before the bad guy fought that process and then the cop overstepped and negligently killed him. In the riot situation there is no attempt at due process - we just skip right to the killin'. At the end of both scenarios, someone died because they tried to steal stuff. Before anyone starts with the "passing counterfeit money isn't the same as looting" argument, would you be okay with the cop's actions if Floyd had done a smash-n-grab instead? The cop's actions should be wrong no matter what the offense was, correct? I still hold the cop was over the line, and it *seems* like shop owners should be able to defend their stores, but I'm having a hard time making a logical argument why the cop's actions should be murder, but the shop owner's wouldn't be. When someone breaks into your business or home, you do not know their intent is. They have already shown violence by breaking in. What's next? Murder, robbery, assault, rape, arson? Also courts have upheld that when surround by large numbers alone that is enough of a threat to justify armed self defense. CD |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:39:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1057:
Sure, allow me to translate. Please send us images of conservative, white men with firearms at the ready to protect their lives, businesses and residences. Anyone else is just protesting peacefully. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:40:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By big_aug: Self-defense isn't murder. You really need it explained? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By big_aug: Originally Posted By Gunner226: So it appears most of us are in agreement that the cop who killed the guy who was fighting with him after the cop tried to arrest him for trying to steal from a business (by using counterfeit money) should hang for murder. But we're ALSO mostly condoning or outright advocating for the idea that shop owners are totally justified in killing anybody who tries to steal from or damage their business during the riot. Is there a contradiction here, or is it just me? It seems like at least with the cop situation, there was an attempt to follow due process before the bad guy fought that process and then the cop overstepped and negligently killed him. In the riot situation there is no attempt at due process - we just skip right to the killin'. At the end of both scenarios, someone died because they tried to steal stuff. Before anyone starts with the "passing counterfeit money isn't the same as looting" argument, would you be okay with the cop's actions if Floyd had done a smash-n-grab instead? The cop's actions should be wrong no matter what the offense was, correct? I still hold the cop was over the line, and it *seems* like shop owners should be able to defend their stores, but I'm having a hard time making a logical argument why the cop's actions should be murder, but the shop owner's wouldn't be. Self-defense isn't murder. You really need it explained? Seriously, breaking into my home or destroying my means to feed my family is going to get a violent response. If someone is reasonably behaving as if they are going to injure or kill me or members of my family expect action. This isn't shooting someone over stealing cigs or a case of beer, it's violent destruction. It's well past time for the violent crowd to get the 1992 treatment. Looters are kos, fuck em' |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:42:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 36trap: Fein slugger cold cut saw goes through 1/2" thick plate like butter. Perfect for opening up safes when you know law enforcement response is either seriously delayed or not coming at all. Keep dreaming, these safes are not your gun safe metal box; the jewelry safe in the a friend of mines Store in a local mall is a TL-60x6. remember these safes are designed to withstand an attack from a professional who knows how to get it open, in a shop environment with every possible tool right there (including cutting torches) at his disposal for 60 minutes. A cold saw won't get you anywhere with one of these safes. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:42:10 AM EST
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   A U.S. Secret Service counter assault team member carries a sniper rifle through Lafayette Park as U.S. President Donald Trump holds a photo opportunity in front of St. John's Episcopal Church across from the White House amid George Floyd protests 
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:42:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HunterCat: Sure, allow me to translate. Please send us images of conservative, white men with firearms at the ready to protect their lives, businesses and residences. Anyone else is just protesting peacefully. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HunterCat: Originally Posted By 1057:
Sure, allow me to translate. Please send us images of conservative, white men with firearms at the ready to protect their lives, businesses and residences. Anyone else is just protesting peacefully. Conservative’s with firearms in DC? lol |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:43:28 AM EST
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Girlfriend has been going off this week about institutional racism. Asked if I have any black friends and started an argument during dinner about Trump, police, white privileged.
That’s what I get for dating a young chick with a MBA I guess. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:43:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHOS7: Same here bro, I'm stuck in Afghanistan. Video called the wife night before last and made sure she had her BCM up and ready to go and a few mags loaded. Bless you all, and prayers for your family! |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:45:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Lots of new gun ownership is going to come out of this. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Originally Posted By Brok3n: Likewise. I wouldn't blame them if they walked off right now. This is BS. I'm angry and past my bedtime, but just can't turn away. Only good news I got... A LIFELONG FRIEND OF MINE IS OFFICIALLY RED PILLED AND NOT ONLY THAT, WANTS A GUN! The riots were the last straw! Lots of new gun ownership is going to come out of this. I doubt it, have you tried to buy a gun lately? They are sold out! |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:45:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By leftytheking: BUMPING AWESOME POST Meh.. I'll be on overwatch |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:46:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunner226: So it appears most of us are in agreement that the cop who killed the guy who was fighting with him after the cop tried to arrest him for trying to steal from a business (by using counterfeit money) should hang for murder. But we're ALSO mostly condoning or outright advocating for the idea that shop owners are totally justified in killing anybody who tries to steal from or damage their business during the riot. Is there a contradiction here, or is it just me? It seems like at least with the cop situation, there was an attempt to follow due process before the bad guy fought that process and then the cop overstepped and negligently killed him. In the riot situation there is no attempt at due process - we just skip right to the killin'. At the end of both scenarios, someone died because they tried to steal stuff. Before anyone starts with the "passing counterfeit money isn't the same as looting" argument, would you be okay with the cop's actions if Floyd had done a smash-n-grab instead? The cop's actions should be wrong no matter what the offense was, correct? I still hold the cop was over the line, and it *seems* like shop owners should be able to defend their stores, but I'm having a hard time making a logical argument why the cop's actions should be murder, but the shop owner's wouldn't be. Fuck with the livelihood I’ve built with blood, sweat, tears, and life savings and I will kill you. End of story. They are participating willfully in a civil disturbance and willfully targeting the life, safety, and livelihood of ship owners. George Floyd was a fucking scumbag who got stopped and a guy did something stupid while arresting him. If you can’t see the difference you should probably stop wondering why your Mom never lets you take your bicycle helmet off even though you don’t own a bike. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:46:03 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord:
Piece of shit DA  Texans need to fire him then |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:46:10 AM EST
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Originally Posted By FistPeso: They wouldn't last long where I live. Lots of retired mil, police officers, and patriots. My neighborhood too. We are Balkanizing already. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:46:26 AM EST
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Oh good! Fox has Mark Cuban on this morning
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:47:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevenH: Texans need to fire him then Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevenH: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
Piece of shit DA Texans need to fire him then Dallas is blue 
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:47:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevenH: Girlfriend has been going off this week about institutional racism. Asked if I have any black friends and started an argument during dinner about Trump, police, white privileged. That’s what I get for dating a young chick with a MBA I guess. I'm assuming this is now an ex-girlfriend. I would have gotten up and left. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:48:17 AM EST
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 ‘Black Lives Matter Is a Joke’ — Black D.C. Resident Tells Far-Left Group ‘Go to Chicago’ |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:48:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunner226: So it appears most of us are in agreement that the cop who killed the guy who was fighting with him after the cop tried to arrest him for trying to steal from a business (by using counterfeit money) should hang for murder. But we're ALSO mostly condoning or outright advocating for the idea that shop owners are totally justified in killing anybody who tries to steal from or damage their business during the riot. Is there a contradiction here, or is it just me? It seems like at least with the cop situation, there was an attempt to follow due process before the bad guy fought that process and then the cop overstepped and negligently killed him. In the riot situation there is no attempt at due process - we just skip right to the killin'. At the end of both scenarios, someone died because they tried to steal stuff. Before anyone starts with the "passing counterfeit money isn't the same as looting" argument, would you be okay with the cop's actions if Floyd had done a smash-n-grab instead? The cop's actions should be wrong no matter what the offense was, correct? I still hold the cop was over the line, and it *seems* like shop owners should be able to defend their stores, but I'm having a hard time making a logical argument why the cop's actions should be murder, but the shop owner's wouldn't be. We already have rules on use of deadly force, that vary with the circumstances. Cop shooting an unarmed person that was running away - going to be hard to legally justify the shooting, but possible (again, depending on the circumstances) though there will probably be 'protests'. Citizen shooting someone breaking into their home - almost an automatic 'good shoot', in most of the country (with exceptions for some of the liberal nanny states). |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:48:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By governmentman: Sister is a liberal (though at least ok with fudd guns), brother in law isn't overly political but is in the middle. They live in the Philly burbs. They reached out to me late last night for advice on buying a handgun. My advice was try to find a rental range and shoot a few, start with a Glock 19. My heart made me want to push CZ, but I figured be safe and go with something more universal. Did suggest if they buy one to take a class, and make sure they get in plenty of practice. I would have offered to let them demo some of mine, but I actually don't have anywhere to shoot right now. Which burb? I know a good LGS with rental range near Lansdale... |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:49:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Elvis-Ar15: Wrong Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Elvis-Ar15: Originally Posted By aeroworksxp: We are in a war of attrition. We will lose this one. Wrong No he's right. Look at who is getting arrested ricky tick. "Protestors"? Nah. Those defending themselves? Immediately. Hell, just look at some of the replies in this thread. "We were going to join the protest..." |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:50:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2IDdoc: Bro, you have to read the article before you post it, and comment on it. The homes that the protesters were rushing into, had offered to give shelter to the rioters. The police were mopping them up, and residents opened their homes to hide them. There was no home invasion, in this instance. We still need 30 round magazines. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2IDdoc: Originally Posted By Willmar: For the day crew. In case you need ammunition against people who say you don't need 30rnd magazines.
Bro, you have to read the article before you post it, and comment on it. The homes that the protesters were rushing into, had offered to give shelter to the rioters. The police were mopping them up, and residents opened their homes to hide them. There was no home invasion, in this instance. We still need 30 round magazines. Note the addresses and remember who the people are. They already do the same for our side. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:50:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevenH: Girlfriend has been going off this week about institutional racism. Asked if I have any black friends and started an argument during dinner about Trump, police, white privileged. That’s what I get for dating a young chick with a MBA I guess. Do I even need to tell you what you should do, pilot? |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:50:35 AM EST
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Anyone seen any updates on any of the NYC officers that were hit by vehicles last night?
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:51:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ka-tetof1: Anyone seen any updates on any of the NYC officers that were hit by vehicles last night? Unfortunately no 
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:52:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 36trap: Fein slugger cold cut saw goes through 1/2" thick plate like butter. Perfect for opening up safes when you know law enforcement response is either seriously delayed or not coming at all. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 36trap: Originally Posted By madwis15: My father in law in Taiwan is a goldsmith. He was robbed decades ago and that prompted him to get some serious safes. They are huge, weigh multiple tons each and firmly bolted to the floor. They make my gun safe look like a tinker toy. It would take a determined person many hours, if not days to get into those! Fein slugger cold cut saw goes through 1/2" thick plate like butter. Perfect for opening up safes when you know law enforcement response is either seriously delayed or not coming at all. But that's not how quality safes are constructed. Think glass hard tungsten rods imbedded in concrete with a high aggregate ratio. Safe builders know all about cold saws. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:52:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By togadelic: Traitors of America link with links showing A number of individuals, companies, outlets, and media institutions have stepped forward to announce that they support the groups enabling riots, violence, vandalism, theft, assault, and murder taking place at the hands of vandals and thugs across the United States of America. Anyone looking to find out which companies, brands, and content creators have betrayed the trust of the American people by aligning with groups that support the deconstruction of Western values, this list will enlighten you as to who the traitors are so you can stay informed. 343 Industries (Halo developer) Traitor 20th Century Studios Traitor Activision Blizzard Traitor Adobe Traitor Alpharad Traitor Amazon Traitor Andrew Yang Traitor Aniplex Traitor Anonymous (hacking group) Traitor AntDude Traitor Apple Traitor Arc System Works Traitor AT&T Traitor AttackingTucans Traitor AVN Media Network Traitor Axel Braun Traitor Bad Robot Entertainment Traitor Bang Zoom! Entertainment Traitor Ben and Jerry's Traitor Bethesda Traitor Bill Nye "The Science Guy" Traitor Billie Ellish Traitor Black Nerd Traitor Blake Lively Traitor Bleacher Report Traitor Brazzers Traitor Call of Duty Traitor Cartoon Network Traitor Cash App Traitor CBS Traitor Certain Affinity Traitor Chrissy Teigen Traitor Chuggaconroy Traitor Citibank Traitor Civvie11 Traitor Cloudflare Traitor Comedy Central Traitor Cory Davis (Director of Spec Ops: The Line) Traitor Crunchyroll Traitor CW Network Traitor DC Comics Traitor DeviantArt Traitor Discord Traitor Digital Extremes Traitor Dimension Ink Games Traitor Disney Traitor Dreamworks Traitor EA Sports Traitor Eleven Arts Traitor Elevation Church Probation Fandom Traitor Fender Traitor Funimation Traitor Gamespot Traitor Gematsu Traitor GKIDS Films Traitor Google Traitor Guns N' Roses Traitor Harley Davidson Traitor Harmonix Traitor HBO Max Traitor Hillsong Worship Probation History Channel Traitor Hulu Traitor Idea Factory International Traitor Ify & Fiona Traitor Insomniac Games Traitor Instagram Traitor Intel Double Traitor Introspecktive Traitor JackSepticEye Traitor Joel Osteen Probation Kink.com Traitor KittonKoKitten Traitor Last.fm Traitor Linus Tech Tips Traitor Logitech Traitor Markiplier Traitor Marvel Entertainment Traitor MatPat From Game Theory Traitor Microsoft Traitor Mozilla Traitor MTV Traitor Napalm Records Traitor Naughty Dog's Neil Druckmann Double Traitor Netflix Traitor NFL Traitor Nickelodeon Double Traitor Nike Traitor Nintendrew Traitor NitroRad Traitor NYAV Post Traitor NZXT Traitor Patreon Traitor PC Gamer Traitor PeanutButter Gamer Traitor Pixar Traitor Playboy Traitor PlayStation Double Traitor Pornhub Traitor PQube Games Traitor ProJared Traitor Quackity Traitor Randy Orton Traitor Raw Fury Traitor RelaxAlax Traitor ReviewTechUSA Traitor RevScarecrow Traitor Riot Games Traitor Rooster Teeth Traitor Ryan Reynolds Traitor Sekai Project Traitor Sesame Street Traitor Seth Rogan Traitor Showtime Traitor SK Gaming Traitor Skillet Music Traitor SomeCallMeJohnny Traitor Sony Traitor Soundcloud Traitor Spotify Traitor Spriters Resource Traitor Square (card reader company) Traitor Star Wars Traitor Stephen King Traitor Steve Carell Traitor Steven Georg Traitor SXSW Traitor Target Traitor Technology Connections Traitor The Coalition (Gears of War developer) Traitor The Great Clement Traitor Toei Animation Traitor TronicsFix Traitor Turn 10 Studios (Forza developer) Traitor TV Land Traitor Twitch.tv Traitor Universal Music Group Traitor VH1 Traitor Viz Media Traitor Warner Bros. Entertainment Traitor Wraith Games Traitor Xbox Traitor YongYea Traitor YouTube Traitor I would personally like to Patriot act every last one of them |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:53:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevenH: Girlfriend has been going off this week about institutional racism. Asked if I have any black friends and started an argument during dinner about Trump, police, white privileged. That’s what I get for dating a young chick with a MBA I guess. lol, you're an idiot if you are still with her today. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:53:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ka-tetof1: Anyone seen any updates on any of the NYC officers that were hit by vehicles last night? |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:53:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mokerr: I think the part that is making me the most sick of all out of this is the people defending their livelihoods being treated more like criminals than the fucking looters. Good citizens can't fucking win in this world. This shit isn't funny. Poor tactics lead to poor outcomes. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:54:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buck19delta: thats a perfect example of why people with certain views should not be allowed in gov, or purged from gov when those views become known. if you cant be neutral politically when your a gov employee, and enforce the rules equally to everyone, then you should not be a gov employee. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buck19delta: Originally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
We need to shine the light on these cock holsters. thats a perfect example of why people with certain views should not be allowed in gov, or purged from gov when those views become known. if you cant be neutral politically when your a gov employee, and enforce the rules equally to everyone, then you should not be a gov employee. Should we stage a protest of our own? |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:55:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JamesP81: Right, because the cops haven't fucked up quite enough have they? They need to fuck up just a little more to get everything fixed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JamesP81: Originally Posted By RoccoOnFire: Originally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Originally Posted By Media_Noche: That's at least brandishing. Who gives a shit? I call it Defending. Right, because the cops haven't fucked up quite enough have they? They need to fuck up just a little more to get everything fixed. While I won't make excuses stupid behavior given the level of police interaction going on right now, the fact that cops are being driven over by cars, lit on fire, and shot, I'm going to guess that there are going to be some mistakes made. Given the propaganda efforts of the left going on in the social media world and now companies "bending the knee to race" anything that can be exploited by the enemy will. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:55:22 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRTsHaircut: My neighborhood too. We are Balkanizing already. 
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:55:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1057: Conservative’s with firearms in DC? lol I’ve actually seen a regular citizen with a DC CCW. They’re rarer than hen’s teeth but they exist. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:55:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jestice75: Despite the USMC's love of him, Mattis is a piece of shit. Still kept push diversity in the military. He was on the board of directors of that fraudulent company, overseeing the fraudulent CEO. Any politician on a major board of directors is a piece of shit. Mattis is just another Cultural Marxist swamp creature. It is likely that no one gets to that level without being one. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:56:08 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/02/15/29103520-8380149-Trump_called_members_of_his_cabinet_including_U_S_Attorney_Gener-a-37_1591106885050.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/02/15/29103522-8380149-The_president_pictured_walking_in_Lafayette_Park_to_visit_St_Joh-a-42_1591106885197.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/02/15/29103524-8380149-A_U_S_Secret_Service_counter_assault_team_member_carries_a_snipe-a-39_1591106885151.jpg A U.S. Secret Service counter assault team member carries a sniper rifle through Lafayette Park as U.S. President Donald Trump holds a photo opportunity in front of St. John's Episcopal Church across from the White House amid George Floyd protests https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/02/15/29126176-8380149-Donald_Trump_claimed_Tuesday_morning_that_there_were_no_problems-a-55_1591106885579.jpg |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:56:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HunterCat: Sure, allow me to translate. Please send us images of conservative, white men with firearms at the ready to protect their lives, businesses and residences. Anyone else is just protesting peacefully. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HunterCat: Originally Posted By 1057:
Sure, allow me to translate. Please send us images of conservative, white men with firearms at the ready to protect their lives, businesses and residences. Anyone else is just protesting peacefully. This is an opportunity. Send screenshots of all of your Facebook friends that are supporting the rioters, have Antifa banners, post links to Antifa related support, etc. Flood the system. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:56:50 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By p3590: What's censored out with the black blob on the rifle? |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:57:04 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: When someone breaks into your business or home, you do not know their intent is. They have already shown violence by breaking in. What's next? Murder, robbery, assault, rape, arson? Also courts have upheld that when surround by large numbers alone that is enough of a threat to justify armed self defense. CD Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: Originally Posted By Gunner226: So it appears most of us are in agreement that the cop who killed the guy who was fighting with him after the cop tried to arrest him for trying to steal from a business (by using counterfeit money) should hang for murder. But we're ALSO mostly condoning or outright advocating for the idea that shop owners are totally justified in killing anybody who tries to steal from or damage their business during the riot. Is there a contradiction here, or is it just me? It seems like at least with the cop situation, there was an attempt to follow due process before the bad guy fought that process and then the cop overstepped and negligently killed him. In the riot situation there is no attempt at due process - we just skip right to the killin'. At the end of both scenarios, someone died because they tried to steal stuff. Before anyone starts with the "passing counterfeit money isn't the same as looting" argument, would you be okay with the cop's actions if Floyd had done a smash-n-grab instead? The cop's actions should be wrong no matter what the offense was, correct? I still hold the cop was over the line, and it *seems* like shop owners should be able to defend their stores, but I'm having a hard time making a logical argument why the cop's actions should be murder, but the shop owner's wouldn't be. When someone breaks into your business or home, you do not know their intent is. They have already shown violence by breaking in. What's next? Murder, robbery, assault, rape, arson? Also courts have upheld that when surround by large numbers alone that is enough of a threat to justify armed self defense. CD Further - when the householder or business owner confronts the intruder - the intruder can advance or withdraw. So, the end result is HIS choice. Nobody is forcing him to stay and be killed. Not comparable to someone face down in cuffs. He lost all influence in the outcome once cuffed and face down. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:58:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By barnbwt: Should we stage a protest of our own? Once the suburbs start getting sacked, we will be forced to. Some to rescue family members, some to protect them. When it gets to that point, everyone is rolling in heavy. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:59:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevenH: Girlfriend has been going off this week about institutional racism. Asked if I have any black friends and started an argument during dinner about Trump, police, white privileged. That’s what I get for dating a young chick with a MBA I guess. Dump her ass. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:59:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By big_aug: I'm very torn. I don't want the US Military turned on citizens on US soil. What else can be done though? Places like NYC aren't doing anything. It can't be allowed to just burn can it? The president can't sit by and watch police and bystanders attacked or killed. He can't watch people destroy the city and do nothing, right? The President HAS to take some action, doesn't he? What a fucking crazy time These fucks aren’t protesting or assembling. It’s lawlessness. The Military swore an Oath to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC. This isn’t calling out the military to seize weapons and take away our rights. This isn’t taking away a peaceful assembly protesting against an injustice. It’s calling out the military to protect the rule of law and defend the nation. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 10:00:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRTsHaircut: My neighborhood too. We are Balkanizing already. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Originally Posted By FistPeso: They wouldn't last long where I live. Lots of retired mil, police officers, and patriots. My neighborhood too. We are Balkanizing already. When are you declaring your independence from the county? |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 10:00:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By big_aug: Self-defense isn't murder. You really need it explained? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By big_aug: Originally Posted By Gunner226: So it appears most of us are in agreement that the cop who killed the guy who was fighting with him after the cop tried to arrest him for trying to steal from a business (by using counterfeit money) should hang for murder. But we're ALSO mostly condoning or outright advocating for the idea that shop owners are totally justified in killing anybody who tries to steal from or damage their business during the riot. Is there a contradiction here, or is it just me? It seems like at least with the cop situation, there was an attempt to follow due process before the bad guy fought that process and then the cop overstepped and negligently killed him. In the riot situation there is no attempt at due process - we just skip right to the killin'. At the end of both scenarios, someone died because they tried to steal stuff. Before anyone starts with the "passing counterfeit money isn't the same as looting" argument, would you be okay with the cop's actions if Floyd had done a smash-n-grab instead? The cop's actions should be wrong no matter what the offense was, correct? I still hold the cop was over the line, and it *seems* like shop owners should be able to defend their stores, but I'm having a hard time making a logical argument why the cop's actions should be murder, but the shop owner's wouldn't be. Self-defense isn't murder. You really need it explained? Maybe he doesn't fully understand what a riot *is*? An overwhelming number of people spurred to lawlessness by the belief they cannot be held legally accountable for *anything* You have to be seriously naive to not see the danger and believe that situation can be tolerated for any length of time The only way to address rioters is with overwhelming force, and/or the threat of the same. That will scatter the riot away from the current target, and gradually bring individual rioters back to the realization there are serious consequences for their actions, and they will abandon the riot. The vast majority of all this occurs entirely outside the protection of law. |
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