[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Robbery Outside a Gun Range (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/14/2014 6:12:40 PM EDT
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Interesting video. Bad guys can be ballsy.
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Interesting video. Bad guys can be ballsy. http://gunsafetyblog.com/2014/06/14/robbery-outside-a-gun-range/ They knew he had weapons. Another reason not to walk around displaying a weapon. It makes you a target. OC guys, you think about this. |
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They knew he had weapons. Another reason not to walk around displaying a weapon. It makes you a target. OC guys, you think about this. Quoted:
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Interesting video. Bad guys can be ballsy. http://gunsafetyblog.com/2014/06/14/robbery-outside-a-gun-range/ They knew he had weapons. Another reason not to walk around displaying a weapon. It makes you a target. OC guys, you think about this. He had two firearms in a backpack. That's not exactly the same as open carry. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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That's a 2 door Nissan Altima I'm 99% sure, not an Accord. They're not a common car, most are 4 doors. And beware of tinted windows!
I carry always, at least a P3AT, and unless I had my hand in my pocket, I don't know, by that video, when I would have had time to draw. Drawing would have led to a shootout more than likely. With my P3AT, I'd send rounds in the general direction, with my XDS it would be a different story, but my XDS would be IWB, which I wouldn't have been able to access in his shoes. Not to MMQ, but when they were headed back to the car, he should have gotten the plate number. OR Italian Jobbed that crap, he had a Mini! |
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They knew he had weapons. Another reason not to walk around displaying a weapon. It makes you a target. OC guys, you think about this. Quoted:
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Interesting video. Bad guys can be ballsy. http://gunsafetyblog.com/2014/06/14/robbery-outside-a-gun-range/ They knew he had weapons. Another reason not to walk around displaying a weapon. It makes you a target. OC guys, you think about this. How the person was/is carrying is irrelevant. Fun shops & ranges can be easy pickings for criminals. They just have to wait for the right customer that isn't paying attention. |
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Yup. I always save at least one magazine of HP ammo for the trip home. Quoted:
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I always have my G22 concealed on my hip at the range. 
Unless I'm shooting it. When I'm done, back on the hip it goes. Yup. I always save at least one magazine of HP ammo for the trip home. Yup, safety magazine is what I call it. |
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A week later the pair struck again, this time shooting and critically wounding the victim. Go on and second guess this one: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/Cops-Gunman-shoots-clerk-steals-6-firearms-in-Northeast-gun-shop-robbery.html A Bonnie and Clyde pair of armed bandits robbed two men and shot one outside a Far Northeast gun shop and range Thursday night, making off with seven stolen firearms and leaving one of the victims critically wounded. Shortly after 8:30 p.m., police raced to the gun range and store at Delaware Valley Sports Center, on Geiger Road near Gantry in Bustleton for a reported shooting, Chief Inspector Scott Small said. There, they found a 67-year-old man in the parking lot suffering from a gunshot wound to the groin. Police took him to Aria Health's Torresdale hospital, where he remained in critical condition late Thursday night. Small said the wounded man's 68-year-old friend said they were both leaving the gun range, which was open for business at the time of the shooting, when a man and a woman, both armed with handguns, approached them in the parking lot and demanded their firearms, wallets and cell phones. The witness told police that both he and his friend complied, handing over seven guns, their wallets and phones, but that the male assailant shot the 67-year-old man anyway, hitting him in the groin and critically wounding him. |
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A week later the pair struck again, this time shooting and critically wounding the victim. Go on and second guess this one: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/Cops-Gunman-shoots-clerk-steals-6-firearms-in-Northeast-gun-shop-robbery.html Shortly after 8:30 p.m., police raced to the gun range and store at Delaware Valley Sports Center, on Geiger Road near Gantry in Bustleton for a reported shooting, Chief Inspector Scott Small said. There, they found a 67-year-old man in the parking lot suffering from a gunshot wound to the groin. Police took him to Aria Health's Torresdale hospital, where he remained in critical condition late Thursday night. Small said the wounded man's 68-year-old friend said they were both leaving the gun range, which was open for business at the time of the shooting, when a man and a woman, both armed with handguns, approached them in the parking lot and demanded their firearms, wallets and cell phones. The witness told police that both he and his friend complied, handing over seven guns, their wallets and phones, but that the male assailant shot the 67-year-old man anyway, hitting him in the groin and critically wounding him. Quoted:
A week later the pair struck again, this time shooting and critically wounding the victim. Go on and second guess this one: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/Cops-Gunman-shoots-clerk-steals-6-firearms-in-Northeast-gun-shop-robbery.html A Bonnie and Clyde pair of armed bandits robbed two men and shot one outside a Far Northeast gun shop and range Thursday night, making off with seven stolen firearms and leaving one of the victims critically wounded.
Shortly after 8:30 p.m., police raced to the gun range and store at Delaware Valley Sports Center, on Geiger Road near Gantry in Bustleton for a reported shooting, Chief Inspector Scott Small said. There, they found a 67-year-old man in the parking lot suffering from a gunshot wound to the groin. Police took him to Aria Health's Torresdale hospital, where he remained in critical condition late Thursday night. Small said the wounded man's 68-year-old friend said they were both leaving the gun range, which was open for business at the time of the shooting, when a man and a woman, both armed with handguns, approached them in the parking lot and demanded their firearms, wallets and cell phones. The witness told police that both he and his friend complied, handing over seven guns, their wallets and phones, but that the male assailant shot the 67-year-old man anyway, hitting him in the groin and critically wounding him. They seem to target the old guys as well. |
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A week later the pair struck again, this time shooting and critically wounding the victim. Go on and second guess this one: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/Cops-Gunman-shoots-clerk-steals-6-firearms-in-Northeast-gun-shop-robbery.html Shortly after 8:30 p.m., police raced to the gun range and store at Delaware Valley Sports Center, on Geiger Road near Gantry in Bustleton for a reported shooting, Chief Inspector Scott Small said. There, they found a 67-year-old man in the parking lot suffering from a gunshot wound to the groin. Police took him to Aria Health's Torresdale hospital, where he remained in critical condition late Thursday night. Small said the wounded man's 68-year-old friend said they were both leaving the gun range, which was open for business at the time of the shooting, when a man and a woman, both armed with handguns, approached them in the parking lot and demanded their firearms, wallets and cell phones. The witness told police that both he and his friend complied, handing over seven guns, their wallets and phones, but that the male assailant shot the 67-year-old man anyway, hitting him in the groin and critically wounding him. Quoted:
A week later the pair struck again, this time shooting and critically wounding the victim. Go on and second guess this one: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/Cops-Gunman-shoots-clerk-steals-6-firearms-in-Northeast-gun-shop-robbery.html A Bonnie and Clyde pair of armed bandits robbed two men and shot one outside a Far Northeast gun shop and range Thursday night, making off with seven stolen firearms and leaving one of the victims critically wounded.
Shortly after 8:30 p.m., police raced to the gun range and store at Delaware Valley Sports Center, on Geiger Road near Gantry in Bustleton for a reported shooting, Chief Inspector Scott Small said. There, they found a 67-year-old man in the parking lot suffering from a gunshot wound to the groin. Police took him to Aria Health's Torresdale hospital, where he remained in critical condition late Thursday night. Small said the wounded man's 68-year-old friend said they were both leaving the gun range, which was open for business at the time of the shooting, when a man and a woman, both armed with handguns, approached them in the parking lot and demanded their firearms, wallets and cell phones. The witness told police that both he and his friend complied, handing over seven guns, their wallets and phones, but that the male assailant shot the 67-year-old man anyway, hitting him in the groin and critically wounding him. Don't carry too much stuff when walking to and from the range. |
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He had two firearms in a backpack. That's not exactly the same as open carry. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quoted:
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Interesting video. Bad guys can be ballsy. http://gunsafetyblog.com/2014/06/14/robbery-outside-a-gun-range/ They knew he had weapons. Another reason not to walk around displaying a weapon. It makes you a target. OC guys, you think about this. He had two firearms in a backpack. That's not exactly the same as open carry. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile You're right. With OC it's even more obvious to the bad guys that you have a weapon. |
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Noamsayen? |
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Had the victim defended himself, racist anti-white organisations (NAACP, mainstream media, Federal government, etc) would have called for the prosecution of the victim for his "hate crime" of self defence from a non white attacker. Ask Zimmerman. There was a case several months ago where a gang of "privileged" youths attacked with baseball bats a man while robbing him, he pull out his legal CCW and killed two of them. There was candle light vigils for the privileged criminals, media pot stirring, protests, etc until the man defending his life while being robbed and brutally attacked was charged with murder. I bet if he gets off he will be charged with a hate crime on the federal level. That would have been the outcome had this victim been "vigilant" as well due to anti-white racism. |
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Had the victim defended himself, racist anti-white organisations (NAACP, mainstream media, Federal government, etc) would have called for the prosecution of the victim for his "hate crime" of self defence from a non white attacker. Ask Zimmerman. There was a case several months ago where a gang of "privileged" youths attacked with baseball bats a man while robbing him, he pull out his legal CCW and killed two of them. There was candle light vigils for the privileged criminals, media pot stirring, protests, etc until the man defending his life while being robbed and brutally attacked was charged with murder. I bet if he gets off he will be charged with a hate crime on the federal level. That would have been the outcome had this victim been "vigilant" as well due to anti-white racism. It's their world now. We just live in it. |
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Philadelphia winning.
Years ago down east of San Diego a bunch of gang bangers rolled up robbing and killing a couple of shooters at Kitchen Creek open/public shooting range stealing their guns. After that my shooting buddies and I were always armed while in and about our targets changing paper. |
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Had the victim defended himself, racist anti-white organisations (NAACP, mainstream media, Federal government, etc) would have called for the prosecution of the victim for his "hate crime" of self defence from a non white attacker. Ask Zimmerman. There was a case several months ago where a gang of "privileged" youths attacked with baseball bats a man while robbing him, he pull out his legal CCW and killed two of them. There was candle light vigils for the privileged criminals, media pot stirring, protests, etc until the man defending his life while being robbed and brutally attacked was charged with murder. I bet if he gets off he will be charged with a hate crime on the federal level. That would have been the outcome had this victim been "vigilant" as well due to anti-white racism. Any names of the deceased or the victim? |
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I don't know, that happened pretty fast. You would've had to train a lot to react fast enough. I disagree completely. Once they got out of their car and started approaching with their eyes firmly fixed on you would be enough for me to move to the rear of that car and announce to stay back and follow up past that. Training is not required for alertness. |
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Soft targets are the easiest targets. Hard targets are hard. Even if he had a loaded holstered pistol having two people strike that boldly and fast I'm not sure anything was possible. Possibly if there were two or there was a second deep cover pistol to shoot the fleeing felons (if that's legal there). |
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Even if he had a loaded holstered pistol having two people strike that boldly and fast I'm not sure anything was possible. Possibly if there were two or there was a second deep cover pistol to shoot the fleeing felons (if that's legal there). Quoted:
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Soft targets are the easiest targets. Hard targets are hard. Even if he had a loaded holstered pistol having two people strike that boldly and fast I'm not sure anything was possible. Possibly if there were two or there was a second deep cover pistol to shoot the fleeing felons (if that's legal there). Stop thinking square range and more about movement. |
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Philadelphia winning. Years ago down east of San Diego a bunch of gang bangers rolled up robbing and killing a couple of shooters at Kitchen Creek open/public shooting range stealing their guns. After that my shooting buddies and I were always armed while in and about our targets changing paper. That is not the first time that has happened. I belong to a private, gated range and still carry a G19 and a slung AR when I'm changing targets. I can't remember where it happened, but a few years ago some thugs shot a guy while he was changing targets and stole his guns. |
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I disagree completely. Once they got out of their car and started approaching with their eyes firmly fixed on you would be enough for me to move to the rear of that car and announce to stay back and follow up past that. Training is not required for alertness. Quoted:
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I don't know, that happened pretty fast. You would've had to train a lot to react fast enough. I disagree completely. Once they got out of their car and started approaching with their eyes firmly fixed on you would be enough for me to move to the rear of that car and announce to stay back and follow up past that. Training is not required for alertness. But training it is to walk around in "condition red" never letting your guard down ever. Buy you're right in all parking lots I am acutely aware of all movements. When I go to the bank or gun store I am always armed and ready. These are natural places to attack thieves. |
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But training it is to walk around in "condition red" never letting your guard down ever. Buy you're right in all parking lots I am acutely aware of all movements. When I go to the bank or gun store I am always armed and ready. These are natural places to attack thieves. Quoted:
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I don't know, that happened pretty fast. You would've had to train a lot to react fast enough. I disagree completely. Once they got out of their car and started approaching with their eyes firmly fixed on you would be enough for me to move to the rear of that car and announce to stay back and follow up past that. Training is not required for alertness. But training it is to walk around in "condition red" never letting your guard down ever. Buy you're right in all parking lots I am acutely aware of all movements. When I go to the bank or gun store I am always armed and ready. These are natural places to attack thieves. Gas stations are another place that my head is constantly on a swivel. Especially during hours of darkness. Standing there at the pump with the gas hose hooked up to your car, you are kind of stuck in terms of being able to move anywhere in a hurry, and the scumbags know this. |
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Gas stations are another place that my head is constantly on a swivel. Especially during hours of darkness. Standing there at the pump with the gas hose hooked up to your car, you are kind of stuck in terms of being able to move anywhere in a hurry, and the scumbags know this. Quoted:
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I don't know, that happened pretty fast. You would've had to train a lot to react fast enough. I disagree completely. Once they got out of their car and started approaching with their eyes firmly fixed on you would be enough for me to move to the rear of that car and announce to stay back and follow up past that. Training is not required for alertness. But training it is to walk around in "condition red" never letting your guard down ever. Buy you're right in all parking lots I am acutely aware of all movements. When I go to the bank or gun store I am always armed and ready. These are natural places to attack thieves. Gas stations are another place that my head is constantly on a swivel. Especially during hours of darkness. Standing there at the pump with the gas hose hooked up to your car, you are kind of stuck in terms of being able to move anywhere in a hurry, and the scumbags know this. Bingo! Anytime you are in a fixed position and exposed to unknown contacts is a time to up your level of awareness. |
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Quoted: Concealed carry, open carry, in the "city of brotherly love" you need to have the gun in your hand. In some parts of Philly you'd want a SAW. Philly is the only city in PA that is allowed to have their own gun laws, without an LTCF you can't carry at all in Philly, no concealed, no open, no nothing. So if the people getting hit in these robberies don't have one (and it's likely they didn't since cities + older people = not very likely to have a carry permit even if they have guns) they may as well be completely unarmed while at the same time just being where they were advertizes that they have guns on them that they (probably) can't use to defend themselves that criminals can take off them. |
| As mentioned above gas stations are a hot spot, here in Philly there has been several point of gun robbery's at night or early morning. I keep my pistol in front waist, shirt or jacket unzipped and keep looking around, if someone is coming towards you, they are up to no good get your hand on the pistola, and be ready, most likely if they see you are armed, it will stop there. |