Rosta97 builds a cabin in Alaska. FIRST SNOW PAGE 43 (Page 5 of 44)
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Originally Posted By AKSnowRider: Mostly in emergencies when you call 911 you are going to be patched thru to the army and they are most likely to respond, it provides excellent hands on training for them, plus they are about the only thing in state that can cover it all if needed..some stuff gets handled local, but normally if it involves choppers its coming from the Army boys..One of my older friends had a mild heart attack on his sled one spring, took about 6 hours for them to respond, but he survived it....I honestly don't know the exact dos and don'ts...we've all been pretty healthy and self sufficient..we do carry sat phone plus good medical stuff, and several in our group are certified RN's which helps...But a person try to be self reliant as much as possible.... Army gave me a ride when I broke my leg 120 miles from a hospital. Of course I was also in the Army at the time. |
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Originally Posted By Rosta97: Army gave me a ride when I broke my leg 120 miles from a hospital. Of course I was also in the Army at the time. Makes sense though, excellent training for them in real world weather conditions... I should have payed more attention during all the avalanche training, thats when most of who did what for EMS type stuff out in the woods was from all that stuff...Then the rest is just from helping with searches and such with the troopers...Hell it may all be done different nowadays, that was all before 2003-2004 or so.. |
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Originally Posted By Swampgrass: I guess it's not as far off the beaten path as I understood. My brother and I both had a appendectomy in our early thirties. Not sure what your grandfather has to do with this. 3-4 hour bumpy boat ride to Stoney River village to the clinic. Then waited a couple of hours for the medivac plane to get there. Almost 2hr plane ride to Anchorage. His appendix was ready to burst by the time he got to the on the operating table. I drove a boat 2hrs to the hospital with a very bad asthma attack.  Around here sometimes the weather is so bad medivac planes cannot get there and sometimes for days/weeks. |
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Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter: My buddy was moose hunting up near Lime village on the Stoney River and had his appendix start hurting very bad. 3-4 hour bumpy boat ride to Stoney River village to the clinic. Then waited a couple of hours for the medivac plane to get there. Almost 2hr plane ride to Anchorage. His appendix was ready to burst by the time he got to the on the operating table. I drove a boat 2hrs to the hospital with a very bad asthma attack. Around here sometimes the weather is so bad medivac planes cannot get there and sometimes for days/weeks. Have a buddy who guides at Stoney River lodge. He was guiding with another outfit out of Valdez until one trip the owner died. They got dropped off on an island a few hours south, owner stayed on the boat to fish the 2 days. He had a honda 2k running on the boat and exhaust pointed towards the cabin one night. Buddy had to swim out to the boat and found him dead, then had to ride back with clients and a dead body because the fog was too thick for helo. |
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Originally Posted By Atropian_Defector: Have a buddy who guides at Stoney River lodge. He was guiding with another outfit out of Valdez until one trip the owner died. They got dropped off on an island a few hours south, owner stayed on the boat to fish the 2 days. He had a honda 2k running on the boat and exhaust pointed towards the cabin one night. Buddy had to swim out to the boat and found him dead, then had to ride back with clients and a dead body because the fog was too thick for helo. Jeez, that's rough. |
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Originally Posted By Atropian_Defector: Have a buddy who guides at Stoney River lodge. He was guiding with another outfit out of Valdez until one trip the owner died. They got dropped off on an island a few hours south, owner stayed on the boat to fish the 2 days. He had a honda 2k running on the boat and exhaust pointed towards the cabin one night. Buddy had to swim out to the boat and found him dead, then had to ride back with clients and a dead body because the fog was too thick for helo. Your buddy needs to man-up….. |
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Heading up there now. Planning on it being about 40 degrees colder than my house was. Will post pics when I get back. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Rosta97: Heading up there now. Planning on it being about 40 degrees colder than my house was. Will post pics when I get back. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231690/BA552A20-BE5E-4F67-AC08-141FCBAE7652_jpe-2674355.JPG Give us some details on the sleds. |
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Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter: 550 skidoo tundra is the nearest If I remember right he bought a 550 skandic wide track. Thanks. I've got a cabin, but not nearly as remote as I've got a neigh across the trail and next one is 4 miles up. I do a ton of trapping and so far have just done a snowshoe line once the snow is too deep for a wheeler. Been thinking of a Skandic once I get a few more things done to the cabin. |
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Originally Posted By Weasel_Master: Thanks. I've got a cabin, but not nearly as remote as I've got a neigh across the trail and next one is 4 miles up. I do a ton of trapping and so far have just done a snowshoe line once the snow is too deep for a wheeler. Been thinking of a Skandic once I get a few more things done to the cabin. Originally Posted By Weasel_Master: Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter: 550 skidoo tundra is the nearest If I remember right he bought a 550 skandic wide track. Thanks. I've got a cabin, but not nearly as remote as I've got a neigh across the trail and next one is 4 miles up. I do a ton of trapping and so far have just done a snowshoe line once the snow is too deep for a wheeler. Been thinking of a Skandic once I get a few more things done to the cabin. Skandics are good for brush with the pogo front shocks. They come in 20 inch wide track and a superwide 24 inch wide track. The 24 is damn near unstoppable when you know how to ride it. The tundra is a 16 inch wide track. I have a 2016 skidoo expedition le 900ace with the 20in track. Floats like dream in the snow. |
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Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter: What type of terrain? Skandics are good for brush with the pogo front shocks. They come in 20 inch wide track and a superwide 24 inch wide track. The 24 is damn near unstoppable when you know how to ride it. The tundra is a 16 inch wide track. I have a 2016 skidoo expedition le 900ace with the 20in track. Floats like dream in the snow. Mostly flat. I'm in northern MN and reason why I c9nsidered it is its narrow for getting down brushy trails. I hear they're a bit tipsy with the narrow front but the benefit outweighs the detriment. The cabin is 2 hrs north of where I live, and have had twice in the last two seasons I got to the road and couldn't get the truck to the cabin. The first time I just stayed in the truck and ran my line from that. The second time I snowshoed in. But dragging and otter sled full of gear in, and then back out and loaded with hides, it was quite the workout. Not to steal the thread, but mine is rustic for the most part. Outhouse that I promptly insulated the first season. Takes the edge off a little if you run the lantern or heater for a few minutes before you go in. This summer I built a sauna so I've got a place other than outside or at the sink to spongebath. After a cold day outside it gets some heat back into your body and I find I'm less sore the next day. We've got an artesian we'll a few miles down from us so I leave four 5 gallon cans up there for potable water. I've got two 55 gallon plastic drums for collecting rainwater for washing the wheeler or cleaning off the skinning table. I've got a small trappers shack lightly insulated with a woodstove in it for skinning and hanging hides to dry. The main cabin has a nice Jotul woodstove and propane cookstove. I got a rechargeable lithium battery water spigot that I plumbed to a quick disconnect under the sink, that attaches to the 5 gallon water cans. So I've got a pushbutton on/off water. My next step is building a woodshed and then I'll get started on solar. I run a Honda 2200 for when I need power. Summertime it doesn't get used except to maybe put a charge on the wheeler and side by side. Winter it's dark enough of the time I use it for lights at breakfast, dinner and to charge my phone. Usually I'm too worn out from trapping to stay up late anyways. |
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Originally Posted By Weasel_Master: Mostly flat. I'm in northern MN and reason why I c9nsidered it is its narrow for getting down brushy trails. I hear they're a bit tipsy with the narrow front but the benefit outweighs the detriment. The cabin is 2 hrs north of where I live, and have had twice in the last two seasons I got to the road and couldn't get the truck to the cabin. The first time I just stayed in the truck and ran my line from that. The second time I snowshoed in. But dragging and otter sled full of gear in, and then back out and loaded with hides, it was quite the workout. Not to steal the thread, but mine is rustic for the most part. Outhouse that I promptly insulated the first season. Takes the edge off a little if you run the lantern or heater for a few minutes before you go in. This summer I built a sauna so I've got a place other than outside or at the sink to spongebath. After a cold day outside it gets some heat back into your body and I find I'm less sore the next day. We've got an artesian we'll a few miles down from us so I leave four 5 gallon cans up there for potable water. I've got two 55 gallon plastic drums for collecting rainwater for washing the wheeler or cleaning off the skinning table. I've got a small trappers shack lightly insulated with a woodstove in it for skinning and hanging hides to dry. The main cabin has a nice Jotul woodstove and propane cookstove. I got a rechargeable lithium battery water spigot that I plumbed to a quick disconnect under the sink, that attaches to the 5 gallon water cans. So I've got a pushbutton on/off water. My next step is building a woodshed and then I'll get started on solar. I run a Honda 2200 for when I need power. Summertime it doesn't get used except to maybe put a charge on the wheeler and side by side. Winter it's dark enough of the time I use it for lights at breakfast, dinner and to charge my phone. Usually I'm too worn out from trapping to stay up late anyways. Tundras are tippy and even the skandics but stiffer springs in the front shocks help that a lot. The trick with the wide tracks is when you get stuck DO Not spin the track. Pack the snow and most of the time you can drive out. With the articulating rear the wide tracks are amazing in reverse. |
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I’ll hit the sleds first before I get into today. So I have a 2020 tundra 550f and a 2012 skandic 550f. Today was the first time really riding the skandic off the trail. The wife quickly learned she doesn’t weigh enough to boondock with it. Attached File So we decided to just ride 2 up on it. Since I got tired of having to stop and go help her every 25m once we got onto our property. That skandic was fricken unstoppable. Riding 2 up. In 3ft of sugar powder. Boon docking. Pogos smashing thru alders. Even ran a few trees over. Love it. Just wish she was able to ride it off trail. Attached File |
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So going out to the property for the first time since we bought it and first time in the winter. Gotta say I’m in love and really excited for this adventure. This is most of the “highway” on the way up. Yeah most highways in Alaska are like this. Attached File Then the highway turns to dirt. Attached File The wood cutting area has endless firewood but not many big enough to build anything with. Attached File At the trail head. Attached File Attached File |
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About halfway to my property. Attached File North west corner. Attached File North east corner. Attached File There are some bigger trees than I remembered on the property. Attached File About where the cabin is going to be. Attached File Overall very happy. The southern half of the property drops off quite a bit and gets thick. Gonna build right before it drops off so I can maximize my view. I think it’s a good thing I didn’t win the 16 acres next to it. Even if they build right on the property line I won’t be able to see them. It saved me 20k not winning it. Think I’m going to go up in a couple weeks and start clearing some trees so I can start hauling material out. |
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Originally Posted By Rosta97: Overall very happy. The southern half of the property drops off quite a bit and gets thick. Gonna build right before it drops off so I can maximize my view. I think it’s a good thing I didn’t win the 16 acres next to it. Even if they build right on the property line I won’t be able to see them. It saved me 20k not winning it. Think I’m going to go up in a couple weeks and start clearing some trees so I can start hauling material out. Looks nice. Saw the water plan. Did I miss the septic plan? You going to try to build a system or just do a dug pit/outhouse? |
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Originally Posted By FDC: Looks nice. Saw the water plan. Did I miss the septic plan? You going to try to build a system or just do a dug pit/outhouse? Outhouse. Gonna set up steel targets all the way to that ridge. I’ll get on the map tomorrow and work and measure the distance. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Rosta97: I'll hit the sleds first before I get into today. So I have a 2020 tundra 550f and a 2012 skandic 550f. Today was the first time really riding the skandic off the trail. The wife quickly learned she doesn't weigh enough to boondock with it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231690/4197ED21-BD29-451C-93E1-6FADBEEE6E08_jpe-2674896.JPG So we decided to just ride 2 up on it. Since I got tired of having to stop and go help her every 25m once we got onto our property. That skandic was fricken unstoppable. Riding 2 up. In 3ft of sugar powder. Boon docking. Pogos smashing thru alders. Even ran a few trees over. Love it. Just wish she was able to ride it off trail. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231690/B3A31CBA-28F3-427F-87AC-1D55414D2FE0_jpe-2674900.JPG Makes a huge difference in ride quality. https://revelsuspensionstore.com/collections/all/products/tundra-front-spring https://revelsuspensionstore.com/products/skandic-wt-swt-front-spring Even my wife has problems with the expy boondocking. Also better skis will make a difference. |
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Originally Posted By Weasel_Master: You've got your work cut out for you but pretty exciting to do. You've got a beautiful view and not much beats being away from the hustle of town. Yeah honestly I think getting the materials out there is going to be the biggest pain in the ass. Looking at it again I don’t think I’m getting a trailer up there. So going to try and haul most of the big stuff out before the snow is gone. Here’s the tightest portion of the trail. But some steep rocky uphills as well. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146520/Screenshot_20230116-181525_Samsung_Inter-2675001.jpgThis guy makes some good sleds. He is on fb and you can see how big of loads they hall. Only imagine the price on that. |
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Originally Posted By Rosta97: Only imagine the price on that. Originally Posted By Rosta97: Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146520/Screenshot_20230116-181525_Samsung_Inter-2675001.jpgThis guy makes some good sleds. He is on fb and you can see how big of loads they hall. Only imagine the price on that. But northen sled works are not cheap either. |
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Is it bad I’m thinking about buying this to haul shit out in? Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Rosta97: Yeah I gotta figure something out. Guy had a northern sled works for $800 used. Just the sheets of uhmw at Alaska rubber are $1,100. Originally Posted By Rosta97: Is it bad I'm thinking about buying this to haul shit out in? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231690/1BB07918-4225-42DE-9035-3A77207FA81C_jpe-2675078.JPG Look at the cost of building a wooden one or have a metal sled made. But cheaper then the gaby one. Use 4x6 for the runners,plywood and 2x6s for the cross pieces. Can even sandwich 2x6 with a plywood middle. Want at least a 10 foot sled. |
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Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146520/FB_IMG_1588872572868-2675124.jpg Another Canadian style https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146520/Screenshot_20210223-182201_Samsung_Inter-2675122.jpgGuy on doo talk made this one. After sleeping on it going to build one of these. Probably pick up the materials after work tomorrow. |
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Originally Posted By Rosta97: After sleeping on it going to build one of these. Probably pick up the materials after work tomorrow. Originally Posted By Rosta97: Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146520/FB_IMG_1588872572868-2675124.jpg Another Canadian style https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146520/Screenshot_20210223-182201_Samsung_Inter-2675122.jpgGuy on doo talk made this one. After sleeping on it going to build one of these. Probably pick up the materials after work tomorrow. Much better idea than your yacht. Can you make the runners more durable/create less drag with either a strip of metal or plastic which runs the whole length? I'm sure you've seen that frame sheet that came in the issue MOLLE assault pack. Even something that thin could work wonders regarding drag. |
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Originally Posted By FDC: Much better idea than your yacht. Can you make the runners more durable/create less drag with either a strip of metal or plastic which runs the whole length? I'm sure you've seen that frame sheet that came in the issue MOLLE assault pack. Even something that thin could work wonders regarding drag. Yeah they make uhmw plastic strips for dog mushing sleds I’ll probably put on. I figure if I can move 6 logs a trip it’ll take me about 14 trips to get all the walls out. At 12 miles out and back. |
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I see these advertised in the bush mailer all the time. Don’t know anything about them but they appear to do what you’re looking for. Freight Hauling Sleds |
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Originally Posted By aleutianhunter: I see these advertised in the bush mailer all the time. Don’t know anything about them but they appear to do what you’re looking for. Freight Hauling Sleds Yeah those are popular. And would do the job. But with starting prices for the base model one was $1250. And top of the line ones over $2,000. It’s a lot of money for a piece of plastic. I know people that have built their own. But alaska rubber wants $1,100 for a sheet. |
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Originally Posted By Rosta97: Yeah those are popular. And would do the job. But with starting prices for the base model one was $1250. And top of the line ones over $2,000. It’s a lot of money for a piece of plastic. I know people that have built their own. But alaska rubber wants $1,100 for a sheet. We've hauled lumber for a number of camps..the best hauling device we have used, was a buggy in summer....of course, but with sleds in winter its a pain, especially if the trails rough or has much for climbs..really hard to haul a heavy load up even a very short hill or on a really narrow trail..with that said a friend had a set of dolly's that in the front its hitch hooked to the sled with a pintel eye, the main frame road on old sled skis ..the top had a pivot with a big "u" cradle made that allowed wood to be cradled in it and tied down, same thing for the rear but no pivot, both had multiple points for tying the load down..It placed the bottom the wool about 14"-16" off the ground so it wasn't dragging to bad but not so tall to be top heavy...the cradles could adjust from3 foot out to 4 foot for sheets of plywood...if you don't get carried away, you can haul loads pretty reliable with a good wide track, but you need a really well packed wide trail 8 foot wide or even more heavily packed in straight-line parts, with corners or hills, 20 foot is not enough sometimes.. Think of the look of a logging truck for the cradles and 2 individual parts of the sled...once unloaded, the rear cradle latched up to the back of the front cradle to run empty..of all the different things we tried, with sleds, that was the best in snow.... |
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Originally Posted By Rosta97: Yeah they make uhmw plastic strips for dog mushing sleds I'll probably put on. I figure if I can move 6 logs a trip it'll take me about 14 trips to get all the walls out. At 12 miles out and back. https://cacalaska.com/sleds-runners-alaska/ |
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Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter: Good place to get runners. https://cacalaska.com/sleds-runners-alaska/ I’ll have to compare prices with the local mushers supply store. |
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Spent near as makes no difference $10,000 at the log mill yesterday. No turning back now. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Rosta97: Spent near as makes no difference $10,000 at the log mill yesterday. No turning back now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231690/6F67F732-13F1-418F-AC19-98B1522C52AA_jpe-2676511.JPG   8x8x20 PT. Damn. |
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Originally Posted By FDC: 8x8x20 PT. Damn. Yeah gonna use those for the foundation like soAttached File |
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Im leaning more and more towards just buying a siglin. Company is Washington sells the sheets for a lot less than Alaska rubber but the $550 shipping more than makes up for it. Guy posted a used home made one for sale today but wants $150 less than new at northern sled works. |
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Keep in mind that when you're done using the good\commercial ones, you should be able to sell them. If it's 2k to buy, and you sell it for 1500 when you're done, you rented it for 500 and got some serious use out of it. At that point, name recognition and perceived quality are good for you. Or rent them out and get paid back that way |
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Originally Posted By H4ppyB34r: Keep in mind that when you're done using the good\commercial ones, you should be able to sell them. If it's 2k to buy, and you sell it for 1500 when you're done, you rented it for 500 and got some serious use out of it. At that point, name recognition and perceived quality are good for you. Or rent them out and get paid back that way Absolutely. The siglins are something I’ve kind of had an eye on for a while anyways. At this point I’m probably going to follow the GD mantra and “get both”. And build a wood sled and get a siglin. |
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Traded my wife’s coworker a 12 pack of beer for this today. Needs some cleaning up but will do the job for now. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Rosta97: Yes the roof and floor will have a layer of insulation. Not sure id call it well insulated. But it’ll be insulated. You want good to great insulation in both the floor and roof..it does make a big difference ............... Aviator.... 
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Originally Posted By AKSnowRider: You want good to great insulation in both the floor and roof..it does make a big difference ............... Aviator.... Picked all this up last week. Attached File |
