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Posted: 9/16/2024 8:32:26 AM EST
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~30 sec video of MK-19 post grid square erasing of RU forces.
🇺🇦" This was a 2-hour assault on Russian positions in the Kursk direction. The MK (automatic grenade launcher) crew supported the infantry's assault operations, and our pilots corrected the guys' work. Such a tandem is extremely important because after being worked over by the MK, when our infantry takes the enemy positions, the enemy is no longer very inclined to fight. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 8:37:43 AM EST
[Last Edit: HIPPO]
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  ETA — larger and better map: 
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Posted: 9/16/2024 9:15:55 AM EST
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1 min video.
⚡️EXCLUSIVE: Ukraine’s Special Forces (HUR) have targeted a Russian drone base in Syria. Special forces from the Khimik group of Ukraine’s HUR attacked a Russian military base near Aleppo on Sept. 15. The base was used for making and testing strike UAVs and IEDs. In this exclusive footage, captured by an intelligence officer and obtained by Kyiv Post, an HUR flag and explosion triggered by a rifle shot hitting pre-planted explosives. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 9:26:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: HIPPO]
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but I thought Russia wasn’t at war with the west… 
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Posted: 9/16/2024 9:38:32 AM EST
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Posted: 9/16/2024 9:48:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: No, I simply don’t distinguish between nation-ruining leftists and nation-ruining rightists. A bad candidate doesn’t become a good candidate because he’s your candidate. When you have the choice between two bad candidates and live in a competitive state you pick the least bad candidate. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 9:56:14 AM EST
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Owned as my opinion: I've already become actively involved locally in the election campaign from grass roots to the White House and will continue to work and donate. But the DS is exponentially stonger today than in 2020, and there is no way in hell they will allow Trump to be elected again. The process itself has been totally compromised. That does NOT mean giving up or suppressing voter turnout. What it does mean is thinking smart, out of the box, and instead of diluting energy arguing about what Trump will or won't do when elected, I'm planning and thinking what I WILL do when the DS puts another of their puppets in office.
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:03:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: Owned as my opinion: I've already become actively involved locally in the election campaign from grass roots to the White House and will continue to work and donate. But the DS is exponentially stonger today than in 2020, and there is no way in hell they will allow Trump to be elected again. The process itself has been totally compromised. That does NOT mean giving up or suppressing voter turnout. What it does mean is thinking smart, out of the box, and instead of diluting energy arguing about what Trump will or won't do when elected, I'm planning and thinking what I WILL do when the DS puts another of their puppets in office. A regime attempting to escalate repression is usually covering for internal weakness. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:10:15 AM EST
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1:30 video. Wow. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:13:36 AM EST
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:17:22 AM EST
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⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️A terrorist attack was being prepared for City Day in Rostov-on-Don! A Ukrainian terrorist has been detained.
The detainee planned to blow up trains and power plants. The saboteur operated under the call sign Loviatar. The militant was well trained. According to security agencies, he took courses with NATO instructors, where he was trained in mine and explosive handling, terrain orientation, camouflage and other skills useful for sabotage. In Rostov, the terrorist rented an apartment in which he assembled homemade bombs and prepared an explosive mixture. On assignment from the SBU and the GUR, he was supposed to blow up trains and power plants on assignment from the SBU and the GUR. During interrogation, Loviatar admitted that he planned to detonate an explosion on the tracks leading to Crimea on City Day in Rostov.! https://t.me/etorostov/65438 |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:25:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: but I thought Russia wasn't at war with the west https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXl-NRSWsAEWYUH?format=jpg&name=medium |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:46:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://i.imgur.com/6n6MLeZ.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/fz8reY7.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/TUPozIG.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/clnkMPM.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/utIwFRA.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/PbGCdAj.jpeg Nice stealth rivets.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://i.imgur.com/6n6MLeZ.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/fz8reY7.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/TUPozIG.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/clnkMPM.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/utIwFRA.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/PbGCdAj.jpeg RuAF received a new batch of the Su-57 5th generation fighter jets. Nice stealth rivets. The SU-57 is NOT a stealth aircraft. They can SAY it is, but it's not. The exposed engine cones alone give it a radar signature the size of a pickup truck. CMOS |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:51:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMOS: THIS is very interesting. Japan, is reaching out with more Force Projection? What's going on here? This is not a minor thing. CMOS They changed some stuff in the past few years in their government to be more than just a defense force. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:59:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEXT23: They changed some stuff in the past few years in their government to be more than just a defense force. My understanding is that the US had to approve that, due to the WWII Surrender Agreement. However, must needed in these heated times. CMOS |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 11:04:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Posted: 9/16/2024 11:23:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CS223: Someone needs to post that pic and description where all the Kamala Karen's can see it. You mean Vance, rite? |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 11:43:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: The plane is as stealthy as my car ... lol 
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Posted: 9/16/2024 11:55:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMOS: The SU-57 is NOT a stealth aircraft. They can SAY it is, but it's not. The exposed engine cones alone give it a radar signature the size of a pickup truck. CMOS Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMOS: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: https://i.imgur.com/6n6MLeZ.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/fz8reY7.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/TUPozIG.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/clnkMPM.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/utIwFRA.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/PbGCdAj.jpeg RuAF received a new batch of the Su-57 5th generation fighter jets. Nice stealth rivets. The SU-57 is NOT a stealth aircraft. They can SAY it is, but it's not. The exposed engine cones alone give it a radar signature the size of a pickup truck. CMOS Doppler; how does that work again?
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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:01:05 PM EST
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When Russia was trying to talk India into paying to complete development of the SU-57 they eventually had to let the Indians test the radar return, after which Indian interest plummeted to zero. The numbers leaked a little while later and it was practically a barn door flying broadside on compared to everything else. I assume the airframe used for that test had the best possible workmanship; judging from horror show photos of other SU-57's they pretty much gave up on pretending the plane had any stealth characteristics at all after that.
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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:04:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: When Russia was trying to talk India into paying to complete development of the SU-57 they eventually had to let the Indians test the radar return, after which Indian interest plummeted to zero. The numbers leaked a little while later and it was practically a barn door flying broadside on compared to everything else. I assume the airframe used for that test had the best possible workmanship; judging from horror show photos of other SU-57's they pretty much gave up on pretending the plane had any stealth characteristics at all after that. Is the PLA version any better? |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:10:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UKjohn: Volvo 850 I'm thinking of something along the lines of a 1964 Ford Country Squire station wagon with a roof rack and a set of old-school cragar rims running at full-speed. A Volvo 850 may actually be stealthier given it's lack of visible external hardware, which can be better simulated by the chrome trim on the Country Squire with the Cragar rims simulating the partially-masked stage 1 turbine disks!
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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:11:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEXT23: Is the PLA version any better? Last I checked they buy Russian engines. So uhhhh no. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:17:46 PM EST
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Thread continues w/ sat imagery analysis.
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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:22:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: Saltwater-Hillbilly]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: When Russia was trying to talk India into paying to complete development of the SU-57 they eventually had to let the Indians test the radar return, after which Indian interest plummeted to zero. The numbers leaked a little while later and it was practically a barn door flying broadside on compared to everything else. I assume the airframe used for that test had the best possible workmanship; judging from horror show photos of other SU-57's they pretty much gave up on pretending the plane had any stealth characteristics at all after that. Supposedly, there was an Indian Air Force colonel somewhere it let slip that the SU-57 as far as radar detection return was roughly equal (better in some aspects/worse in some aspects) to some British non-stealth designs the IAF tested in the 1960's that were rejected for other cost/performance/political reasons. So, apparently forget surpassing Lockmart or Northrup-Grumman, the Russians are still trying to get past Hawker-Siddeley or something! 
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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:22:55 PM EST
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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:26:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEXT23: Is the PLA version any better? USAF described China as capable but not something they’re worried about. My understanding is China hopes to use them to attack refueling planes and avoid air to air engagements with F-22s and F-35s |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:28:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: Toybasher]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXiiU4sWEAAAxtV?format=jpg&name=large https://tochnyi.info/2024/08/the-hounds-of-z/ Article with more info about this. Absolutely disgusting to be intentionally dropping on civilians then posting it on telegram like it's something to be proud of. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:29:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: Last I checked they buy Russian engines. So uhhhh no. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: Originally Posted By NEXT23: Is the PLA version any better? Last I checked they buy Russian engines. So uhhhh no. From the front I recall it's decent. So if it takes a few j-20's getting downed to take out all our tankers then china likely wins. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:29:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEXT23: Is the PLA version any better? I can’t recall from where but there was also an argument being made that stealth was not relevant for a Taiwan war. If I pull my shit together today and remember from where I saw that, I’ll post the link. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/22/us-navy-stealth-jets-missiles-china-taiwan-invasion-war/  https://www.twz.com/40142/air-force-general-says-current-generation-f-35as-not-worth-including-in-high-end-wargames   But I do know the USAF said they’d lean more with F-15EX in a Taiwan fight than F-35 https://www.defensenews.com/training-sim/2021/04/12/a-us-air-force-war-game-shows-what-the-service-needs-to-hold-off-or-win-against-china-in-2030/ 
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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:33:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: Last I checked they buy Russian engines. So uhhhh no. China started switching out Russian engines for its aircraft in the last few years https://asiatimes.com/2022/11/china-fighters-ditching-russia-for-homegrown-engines/  https://asiatimes.com/2022/11/china-fighters-ditching-russia-for-homegrown-engines/  https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/china-signs-mou-with-airbus-deepen-aviation-cooperation-state-media-says-2024-05-07/  
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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:41:37 PM EST
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Posted: 9/16/2024 12:48:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Posted: 9/16/2024 1:13:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Supposedly, there was an Indian Air Force colonel somewhere it let slip that the SU-57 as far as radar detection return was roughly equal (better in some aspects/worse in some aspects) to some British non-stealth designs the IAF tested in the 1960's that were rejected for other cost/performance/political reasons. So, apparently forget surpassing Lockmart or Northrup-Grumman, the Russians are still trying to get past Hawker-Siddeley or something! Was it the Vulcan that had unintentional stealth characteristics from some angles? |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 1:47:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voyager3: Was it the Vulcan that had unintentional stealth characteristics from some angles? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voyager3: Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Supposedly, there was an Indian Air Force colonel somewhere it let slip that the SU-57 as far as radar detection return was roughly equal (better in some aspects/worse in some aspects) to some British non-stealth designs the IAF tested in the 1960's that were rejected for other cost/performance/political reasons. So, apparently forget surpassing Lockmart or Northrup-Grumman, the Russians are still trying to get past Hawker-Siddeley or something! Was it the Vulcan that had unintentional stealth characteristics from some angles? Unknown; I heard this third-hand at best and I have no idea how specific he was in identifying types. Blackburn and a few others also had some "unintentionally stealthy" aircraft in this era as well, but they generally are not considered very successful, as they were pricey and stuff like the F86 could run circles around them in the performance department (never mind something more current to the 1960's like a Vought F-8) and the general consensus seems to be that they had flight handling characteristics only slightly better than that of a truck launched from a giant trebuchet. A fascinating and somewhat lengthy "deep dive" if you are fan of jet-age development. Kind of fascinating that the Brits could simultaneously build metric-breaking designs like the Avro Vulcan, the Harrier, the Hawker Hunter and the BAC Lighting among others while simultaneously paying WAY too much money to field stuff like the D/H Sea Vixen and the Supermarine Scimitar. 
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Posted: 9/16/2024 1:54:09 PM EST
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Posted: 9/16/2024 1:59:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXnLa-caYAEoe1P?format=png&name=900x900fo real Guess he was attracted to those manly virtues, or the money. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 2:03:58 PM EST
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Posted: 9/16/2024 2:04:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Guess he was attracted to those manly virtues, or the money. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Originally Posted By HIPPO: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXnLa-caYAEoe1P?format=png&name=900x900fo real Guess he was attracted to those manly virtues, or the money. Sounds like he’s compensating. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 2:08:14 PM EST
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Posted: 9/16/2024 2:11:46 PM EST
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Posted: 9/16/2024 2:13:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fervid_dryfire: Does that also mean that people who were banned from commenting in that thread (like me) are getting their posting ability reinstated there? @DK-Prof Because I would be delighted to help keep that thread alive again. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fervid_dryfire: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By fervid_dryfire: If my posting rights were reinstated I'd go back to that thread. I still have a tab of it open, right next to this one. Hope abounds for some unlocking to happen and activity there again- it's a 5,000-page thread!...it shouldn't go to waste. Go see the thread now; it's mostly a ghost town. It was wrong to moderate that great thread into the ground- apparently some mods clearly don't appreciate the consequences when they make huge thread-wrecking decisions by taking things too far. Moderation powers should be wielded like a scalpel, not a freaking broadsword, or claymore.  That's my rant; no poll incoming.  Mods don't act without approval of staff, that's been stated on a number of occasions. I don't know why that thread was allowed to be literally moderated to death, but that's what happened. Keeping election talk out along with trolls was a good thing. But there was much more than that going on. The weird thing is that it wasn't always like that. The first 15-18 months of that thread went just fine with an occasional troll getting booted. Then something happened and it completely changed. Oh well. I still think that thread stands as an excellent comprehensive resource for the first 18 months of the 2022 invasion. It's too bad it can't be catalogued and indexed with a table of contents. I wonder if Subnet or Goatboy could extract the entire thread and make an archive of it. It would be great to do topical searches of it. Heck, I'd like to find one of the songs that got posted in early 2022. You'll asked for it to be moderated more heavily. You'll got what you'll wanted, even if it was unknowingly asking for a safe space. The old (LoBrau) thread was aggressively moderated by the mods in order to try to keep it on track because lots of people complained about people trolling or trying to derail the thread. The moderation essentially took two forms. One was to boot people who were just posting pro-Russian stuff. The other was to avoid the thread being derailed by constant arguments about Trump, politics, etc. Eventually, the new thread was created because too many people were unhappy with the strict moderation of the old thread. Since then, the OP (LoBrau) of the old thread requested that aggressive moderation of the old thread ends, which we have been happy to implement. Ultimately, nobody WANTED strict moderation to keep trolls out and to keep the thread from being derailed. The mods HATE having to spent tons of time babysitting threads like this, and would much rather NOT have to deal with it. The mods and staff are thrilled to NOT have to deal with it. Unfortunately, by the time that word got out that mods were no longer aggressively moderating the old thread, I think most people had become accustomed to the new thread, and people never really returned to it. It's a shame, and I would love to see it return to prominence. Does that also mean that people who were banned from commenting in that thread (like me) are getting their posting ability reinstated there? @DK-Prof Because I would be delighted to help keep that thread alive again. That's an excellent point. I have removed the restriction. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 2:16:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: ‼️THEY DIED FOR RUSSIA‼️ Three days ago, the entire crew of the Su-30 died in the Black Sea during a combat mission. The first two days there was hope that the guys would be found, but now we can say that they did not have time to eject and the iron bird went under water along with two Heroes, forever becoming a monument to Russian officers. ‼️👉ONE LEFT HIS WIFE and a 3-year-old daughter! ‼️👉The second has a single mother. There was no father. We will not bring the guys back, but we have the right tradition - to help the families of the deceased, for the time being, until they receive benefits from the State. And this is not just money. This is our opportunity to show that the guys died - for a reason and the people appreciate it. ‼️Let's collect at least 500 thousand for each family. Together with my colleagues: @Aviahub34 @ZOV_Voevoda @helifriends 👉 Don't pass by! : 2202206296822799 Kirill Fedorov BTC: bc1qqrlhxpf4w9lgwlnznc4zvumdepagm8s0mfv4x6 P.S. I will mention all channels that support with a repost in the MANDATORY report. P.P.S. If suddenly there is more money, then we will send everything to help the front, so that there are fewer tragic losses! P.P.P.S. Personally, I am sending 10,000 to the collection account for families from my personal money. Russia Will Win! No one will be forgotten! ❤️🇷🇺😁 https://t.me/warhistoryalconafter/184732 Somebody is getting a sack of onions. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 3:43:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: GBTX01]
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If accurate the RU have got themselves a problem. With UKR controlling the heights. 
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Posted: 9/16/2024 4:02:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Article link here. We “can’t equip” the 82nd or 101st either because they are light infantry rather than mechanized. We’ll see if this is misdirection from the formation of light infantry units or if it is an actual shortage. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 4:29:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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30 minutes ago Engels under attack.
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Posted: 9/16/2024 4:34:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voyager3: Was it the Vulcan that had unintentional stealth characteristics from some angles? Misread your question in my earlier response. Yes, the Vulcan was extremely (and accidently) "stealthy" for the era but a lot of British aircraft had significantly lower radar cross-sections than other NATO (or Soviet) designs. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 4:36:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PanzerOfDoom: Somebody is getting a sack of onions. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PanzerOfDoom: Originally Posted By Prime: ‼️THEY DIED FOR RUSSIA‼️ Three days ago, the entire crew of the Su-30 died in the Black Sea during a combat mission. The first two days there was hope that the guys would be found, but now we can say that they did not have time to eject and the iron bird went under water along with two Heroes, forever becoming a monument to Russian officers. ‼️👉ONE LEFT HIS WIFE and a 3-year-old daughter! ‼️👉The second has a single mother. There was no father. We will not bring the guys back, but we have the right tradition - to help the families of the deceased, for the time being, until they receive benefits from the State. And this is not just money. This is our opportunity to show that the guys died - for a reason and the people appreciate it. ‼️Let's collect at least 500 thousand for each family. Together with my colleagues: @Aviahub34 @ZOV_Voevoda @helifriends 👉 Don't pass by! : 2202206296822799 Kirill Fedorov BTC: bc1qqrlhxpf4w9lgwlnznc4zvumdepagm8s0mfv4x6 P.S. I will mention all channels that support with a repost in the MANDATORY report. P.P.S. If suddenly there is more money, then we will send everything to help the front, so that there are fewer tragic losses! P.P.P.S. Personally, I am sending 10,000 to the collection account for families from my personal money. Russia Will Win! No one will be forgotten! ❤️🇷🇺😁 https://t.me/warhistoryalconafter/184732 Somebody is getting a sack of onions. It appears they have already run out of Ladas; what happens when they run out of onions and potatoes as well? |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 4:38:06 PM EST
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Found out that the F-16XL had half the RCS of an F-16A, which was a function only of the new wing plan and lack of elevators. British aircraft typically looking like they’ve been carved from soap and then left out in the rain probably made for some interesting angles for radar to work or not work from.
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Posted: 9/16/2024 4:49:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: A regime attempting to escalate repression is usually covering for internal weakness. Or they are just consolidating power. |
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