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Posted: 9/16/2024 5:01:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXnLa-caYAEoe1P?format=png&name=900x900fo real Old news. Shitheel is from the far left Socialist Party. Policy is basically in line with Comunism |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 5:08:06 PM EST
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Posted: 9/16/2024 5:12:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: Old news. Shitheel is from the far left Socialist Party. Policy is basically in line with Comunism Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: Originally Posted By HIPPO: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXnLa-caYAEoe1P?format=png&name=900x900fo real Old news. Shitheel is from the far left Socialist Party. Policy is basically in line with Comunism Tiny Kox.... 
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Posted: 9/16/2024 5:19:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: but I thought Russia wasn’t at war with the west…https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXl-NRSWsAEWYUH?format=jpg&name=medium So the 21st century Hitler is even copying the Hitler Youth? 
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Posted: 9/16/2024 5:29:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Posted: 9/16/2024 5:31:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gudabeg: We “can’t equip” the 82nd or 101st either because they are light infantry rather than mechanized. We’ll see if this is misdirection from the formation of light infantry units or if it is an actual shortage. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 5:35:54 PM EST
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Following up from Carmel's post of Chinese sources crowing about Philippines withdrawing their ship from Sabina.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/philippines-deploys-new-coast-guard-ship-sabina-shoal-defying-chinas-demands-withdrawal Older story from PH 60 Minutes on China's ramming of PH ships.  China rams Philippine ship while 60 Minutes on board; South China Sea tensions could draw U.S. in |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 5:39:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: I need sleep  lol, I'm worn out too.
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Posted: 9/16/2024 5:48:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: Prime]
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This has been on every Russian TG channel for a few days, so we might as well look at it too.
 
Full report: https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Investigation-into-military-support-for-Ukraine-1.pdf |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 6:02:53 PM EST
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Daily Ukraine map thread for Monday 16th September 2024
Highlights: Russian forces advance west of Klishchiivka, crossing the canal with light infantry and almost reaching Stupochky Ukrainian forces hit by Russian strikes in Vovchansk Aggregate Plant, indicating Russian forces are probably no longer present Russian forces advance into Borki, Kursk. They were also shown in Gordeevka, Byakhovo and Vnezapnoe. We've adjusted the map accordingly. Map: https://uacontrolmap.com  
 
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Posted: 9/16/2024 6:12:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Posted: 9/16/2024 6:13:28 PM EST
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WSJ: The Crude System of Coded Messages Keeping Hamas’s Leader Alive: Yahya Sinwar’s use of low-tech communications has vexed Israel’s efforts to kill him. Link
Hamas’s top leader Yahya Sinwar could well be dead today if not for a low-tech communications system honed in prison that shields him from Israel’s intelligence-gathering dragnet. Sinwar has largely shunned phone calls, text messages and other electronic communications that Israel can track and that have led to the demise of other militants. Instead, he is using a complex system of couriers, codes and handwritten notes that allows him to direct Hamas’s operations even while hiding in underground tunnels. Sinwar’s rudimentary approach to communications harks back to a system that Hamas used in its early years and that the Hamas leader took up when he was detained in 1988 and later imprisoned in an Israeli jail, according to experts on the group. Before being incarcerated, Sinwar founded Hamas’s internal security police, called Majd, which hunted down suspected collaborators and was active in Israeli prisons. Majd recruited agents inside prison called “sawa’ed” who distributed encoded messages from one section to another Entire article in quote box The Crude System of Coded Messages Keeping Hamas’s Leader Alive Hamas’s top leader Yahya Sinwar could well be dead today if not for a low-tech communications system honed in prison that shields him from Israel’s intelligence-gathering dragnet. Sinwar has largely shunned phone calls, text messages and other electronic communications that Israel can track and that have led to the demise of other militants. Instead, he is using a complex system of couriers, codes and handwritten notes that allows him to direct Hamas’s operations even while hiding in underground tunnels, according to Arab cease-fire mediators. The communication method has vexed an Israeli military intent on finding the architect of the Oct. 7 attack on Israel that killed 1,200 people and sparked the war in Gaza. Killing or capturing Sinwar would mark a substantial victory for Israel that could bring the 11-month war closer to an end, but even with military control of the Gaza Strip, Israeli intelligence has come up empty. Sinwar hasn’t been seen in public since the war started last fall. Israeli officials have said they believe he is in hiding in Gaza. A glimpse into how Sinwar stays alive comes from Arab mediators who have ferried messages back and forth during cease-fire talks between Hamas and Israel, which don’t talk directly to each other. A typical message from Sinwar will now be handwritten and first passed to a trusted Hamas member who moves it along a chain of couriers, some of whom might be civilians, the mediators said. The messages are often coded, with different codes for different recipients, circumstances and times, building on a system that Sinwar and other inmates had developed while in Israeli prisons. The note might then reach an Arab mediator who has entered Gaza or another Hamas operative who uses a phone or other method to send it to the U.S.-designated terrorist group’s members abroad, the mediators said. Sinwar’s communications methods have become more guarded and complex as Israel has managed to find and kill his high-ranking compatriots, in particular the Beirut attack that killed Saleh al-Arouri, Hamas’s deputy political leader and a founder of the group’s military wing. “I’m quite sure this is one of the prominent reasons that the IDF didn’t find him,” said Michael Milshtein, a former head of Palestinian affairs for Israeli military intelligence, referring to the Israel Defense Forces. “He really keeps all his basic personal patterns of behavior very strict.” The Israeli military declined to comment. Hamas declined to answer questions about how Sinwar communicates. Sinwar has recently been firing off official messages to Arab and militant leaders, including thanks for their support and praise for the Yemen-based Houthi militants for their missile attack Sunday on Israel. Israel’s military intelligence has some of the world’s most sophisticated abilities to intercept electronic communications, often called signals intelligence. It was after Arouri’s death that Sinwar almost entirely shifted to handwritten notes and oral communication, sometimes circulating voice recordings via a small circle of aides, according to Arab mediators. Arouri’s death was followed by a number of other killings of top officials in Hamas and Hezbollah, heightening the sense of vulnerability. In July, Israel launched a massive airstrike that it has said killed Hamas’s top military leader, Mohammed Deif. That month, Israel also purportedly killed Ismail Haniyeh, Hamas’s political leader at the time, in Tehran and launched a strike on a Beirut residential building that took out Fuad Shukr, a core Hezbollah leader who had eluded the U.S. for decades. The Hezbollah commander was directed to an apartment after receiving a phone call that was likely from someone who had breached Hezbollah’s internal communications network, The Wall Street Journal has reported. “They know if they use any electronic devices, it will be spotted,” said Azmi Keshawi, a researcher at International Crisis Group who lived in Gaza. So Sinwar has reverted to Hamas’s old ways, he said. Sinwar’s rudimentary approach to communications harks back to a system that Hamas used in its early years and that the Hamas leader took up when he was detained in 1988 and later imprisoned in an Israeli jail, according to experts on the group. Before being incarcerated, Sinwar founded Hamas’s internal security police, called Majd, which hunted down suspected collaborators and was active in Israeli prisons. Majd recruited agents inside prison called “sawa’ed” who distributed encoded messages from one section to another, according to the book Son of Hamas by a former Hamas operative-turned-Israeli spy. The sawa’ed, a nickname derived from the Arabic word for forearms, would wrap handwritten letters in white bread, roll them into balls, then let them dry and harden, according to the book. Like baseball players, the agents pitched the balls from one section of the prison to the next, shouting “mail from the freedom fighters!” Israel estimates that Sinwar spent years planning for a major war with Israel, including building a vast tunnel network. Milshtein, the former Israeli military intelligence official, said his preparations likely included setting up a communications system that would get around modern intelligence gathering. The methods are so effective that his pursuers can’t rule out that he isn’t in Gaza. Access to Sinwar is now more important than ever. While he has long been Hamas’s driving force, the group relied on officials outside Gaza in places such as Qatar to represent its interests. That changed after the assassination of Haniyeh in Tehran—an attack attributed to Israel—led the group to formally anoint Sinwar as the boss. The changeover came just as the U.S. stepped up its efforts to secure a cease-fire in Gaza in hopes of de-escalating regional tensions. The negotiations are complex, with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu raising a number of demands on controversial points that will be difficult to resolve. U.S. officials are skeptical that Sinwar himself wants to end the fighting, either. Sinwar’s cautious approach has at times slowed negotiations to end the war, which has now caused the deaths of more than 41,000 Palestinians, according to Palestinian health officials, who don’t say how many were combatants. Hamas-led fighters took about 250 people hostage in the Oct. 7 attacks that sparked the war, with 97 still remaining in Gaza, many of them believed dead. At crucial points in cease-fire negotiations, Sinwar has become unreachable. Other times, he’s relayed messages in near real time. Whether communication delays are a negotiating tactic or a reflection of Sinwar’s strict protocols is unclear. Sinwar has managed to communicate quickly when necessary. “We extend to you and your esteemed family our heartfelt condolences and blessings for your sacred sacrifice,” he wrote in a letter to Haniyeh in April after three of his sons were killed by an Israeli airstrike. That letter, according to Arab officials, made it to Haniyeh via couriers just hours after the deaths. In June, top U.S. officials including Central Intelligence Agency Director William Burns flew to the Middle East to push Israel and Hamas toward a cease-fire. Burns held talks with the Qatari prime minister and Egypt’s intelligence chief in Doha, who then met with Haniyeh to force Hamas officials into a deal with the threat of sanctions and arrest. During that meeting, Sinwar relayed messages in real time, and Hamas refused to agree to a halt in fighting unless Israel made a written commitment to a permanent cease-fire, according Arab mediators. It isn’t clear how Sinwar was transmitting his order. Israel has known for at least a decade that Hamas created a landline phone system in its subterranean tunnels. A failed Israeli commando operation in 2018 that sparked exchanges of fire between Israel and Hamas for a few days was an attempt by the Israeli military to tap Hamas’s phone network, according to a later public statement by Hamas. The Israeli military declined to comment on the operation. At the start of the current war, mediators were seeking to broker a hostage deal between Israel and Hamas that would head off an Israeli military invasion of the Gaza Strip and sent couriers inside Gaza to meet members of Hamas’s armed wing and pass on coded messages. Sinwar also organized phone calls with mediators on Hamas’s landline network in the tunnels, using codes to determine the day and time as well as aliases in messages setting up the calls, mediators said. Sinwar at times used the names of people who were with him in prison to disguise his true identity, mediators said. As careful as he has been, the Hamas leader only has to make one mistake to give Israel a window of opportunity, said Thomas Withington, an expert on electronic warfare and an associate research fellow at London’s Royal United Services Institute think tank. “That split second where you forget discipline,” Withington said, “that can sign your death warrant.” |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 7:14:19 PM EST
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Posted: 9/16/2024 7:18:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Misread your question in my earlier response. Yes, the Vulcan was extremely (and accidently) "stealthy" for the era but a lot of British aircraft had significantly lower radar cross-sections than other NATO (or Soviet) designs.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 7:30:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Hope this was worth $25 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_3030-3324295.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: lol, I'm worn out too. Hope this was worth $25 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_3030-3324295.jpg It looks comfy. 
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Posted: 9/16/2024 7:48:18 PM EST
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~20 sec video. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 7:49:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: ~20 sec video. 
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Posted: 9/16/2024 8:03:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By absael: If Russia can do it, anybody can. Made to order, beat to fit. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 8:15:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: HIPPO]
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Full article link here. Damn. So many receipts. Unrolled thread here. Read it.
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Posted: 9/16/2024 8:25:57 PM EST
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Posted: 9/16/2024 8:38:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: HIPPO]
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should be interesting hearing from semi-conductor/chip mfgs on the hill this week. There is a lot of nuance here that Blumenthal and Hawley are glossing over to make their sound bites. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 8:56:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gudabeg: We “can’t equip” the 82nd or 101st either because they are light infantry rather than mechanized. We’ll see if this is misdirection from the formation of light infantry units or if it is an actual shortage. True but the 82 and 101 still have birds to deliver them... |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 9:26:17 PM EST
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Posted: 9/16/2024 9:47:21 PM EST
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Bryansk
An attempt by the Kyiv regime to carry out a terrorist attack using UAVs in the Bryansk region has been thwarted. Eight aircraft-type unmanned aerial vehicles have been detected and destroyed by the Russian Defense Ministry's Air Defense forces. There are no casualties or damage. Operational and emergency services are working on the scene. Thank you to our air defense units!🇷🇺 https://t.me/avbogomaz/8319 Our defenders continue to destroy enemy UAVs over the territory of the Bryansk region. Another seven aircraft-type unmanned aerial vehicles have been detected and destroyed by the air defense forces of the Russian Defense Ministry. There are no casualties or damage. Operational and emergency services are working. Thank you to our valiant air defense forces! https://t.me/avbogomaz/8320 |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:01:27 PM EST
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I wonder if the Ukrainians are putting any effort into quieting drones down. Seems like it would make hitting many targets they go after a lot easier.
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:18:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: daemon734]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gudabeg: We “can’t equip” the 82nd or 101st either because they are light infantry rather than mechanized. That is simply not remotely true, and hasn't been for many, many decades. I'm assuming you have no access to FMS to look at unit MTOEs, because this statement is absurd. Light IBCT's are not boots only. There are literally thousands of vehicles and associated systems involved. The delineation from light, medium, to heavy annotates the types of terrain that the brigade can operate in, and they downgrade as necessary. In flat open steppes they aren't downgrading shit. They go totally dismount to secure an objective where vehicle use is non-permissive, then go right back to vehicles. This isn't 1807. Light units do not walk from Kiev to the FLOT. In the US Military, "light" brigades use JLTV's (formerly HMMWV) combined with aircraft. Then they need generators, anti tank, systems, night vison, heavy machine guns, mortars, etc. The support battalions require a lot of equipment as well. Fuelers, flatbeds, recovery, forklifts, etc. The most critical part of "equipping" is ammo, or enough organic ammo to sustain operations at a brigade level. That ammo doesn't generate out of thin air and definitely isn't getting hand carried to the fight. Even Napoleonic infantry required a huge wagon and cannon logistics presence to sustain line and column infantry operations. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:33:06 PM EST
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Did they add enough vehicles for an entire IBCT to move at once yet or are they still taking turns?
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:41:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blueballs: When you have the choice between two bad candidates and live in a competitive state you pick the least bad candidate. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blueballs: Originally Posted By Capta: No, I simply don’t distinguish between nation-ruining leftists and nation-ruining rightists. A bad candidate doesn’t become a good candidate because he’s your candidate. When you have the choice between two bad candidates and live in a competitive state you pick the least bad candidate. That’s how we ended up with two bad candidates and why we’ll end up with ever worse candidates, because in every election it will be presented as “VOTE FOR YOUR TEAM - SLIGHTLY LESS BAD THAN THE OTHER TEAM.” I will never do that again. There are places where a judgment call is warranted, but this is not one of them. Both parties served up a hard no. I’m open to third party, but likely not the Libertarian this year. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 11:07:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: That’s how we ended up with two bad candidates and why we’ll end up with ever worse candidates, because in every election it will be presented as “VOTE FOR YOUR TEAM - SLIGHTLY LESS BAD THAN THE OTHER TEAM.” I will never do that again. There are places where a judgment call is warranted, but this is not one of them. Both parties served up a hard no. I’m open to third party, but likely not the Libertarian this year. Which is exactly how Ukraine got Yanukovich in 2013. Way too many people thought they were making a statement by either not voting or voting for a protest candidate. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 11:08:38 PM EST
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Posted: 9/16/2024 11:31:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Did they add enough vehicles for an entire IBCT to move at once yet or are they still taking turns? The ability to move an entire BCT with organic vehicles at the small unit level has been a stated capability since about 2005. Prior to that it was still possible but the relied on vehicles like LMTVs to plug holes. There were still hundreds of vehicles and pieces of heavy equipment associated with IBCTs even prior to that. I don't know where you guys come up with this crap. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 11:58:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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I recall medics had vehicles, air defense had vehicles, we had an airborne armor battalion and signal battalion had vehicles for some of the larger non man portable radios
 https://www.clarksvilleonline.com/2013/07/02/fort-campbell-101st-sustainment-brigade-soldiers-remember-the-vulcan-air-defense-system/   The M551 Sheridan was the last tank airborne units jumped into combat https://www.army.mil/article-amp/152981/armor_school_dedicates_sheridan_to_commemorate_armor_airborne_units  |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 12:02:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: I recall medics had vehicles, air defense had vehicles, we had an airborne armor battalion and signal battalion had vehicles for some of the larger non man portable radios Yep, even discounting mobile combat arms soldiers, there are numerous warfighting functions within a light unit that require equipment and vehicles. An IBCT is not just infantry soldiers grabbing M16's out of crates. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 12:11:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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When I was at Fort Ord at the infantry company level, we only had one assigned vehicle which the supply sergeant or 1SG used so we had to request deuce and half’s from higher.
But in the 82nd at Ft Bragg everything was chopped up - Alpha company 82nd Signal battalion was TAC/CP so we had man portable radios but there were 31M mos guys in the other companies assigned HMMV with communications shelters on the back and the Battalion commander had his own command vehicle that got fucked up in a air drop one time. I think 782nd maintenance battalion had vehicles for petroleum and I remember water buffalos had to get towed or rigged for air assault operations Anyway, going off ISW it sounds like Ukraine is having difficulty with several brigades but not much details on that There was also an article of Ukraine reevaluating its new recruit training process If more information becomes available I’ll post it |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 12:23:09 AM EST
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By daemon734: Yep, even discounting mobile combat arms soldiers, there are numerous warfighting functions within a light unit that require equipment and vehicles. An IBCT is not just infantry soldiers grabbing M16's out of crates. Yep, at least in my experience with 18th Airborne Corps in the 80s & 7th ID & 25th ID later on Higher would arrange for vehicles from within division for us down at the infantry platoon and company level when requested, which I recall even in WW2 Band of Brothers they had some of that at Bastogne after their Normandy campaign plus a couple times we rigged a variety of equipment and vehicles for airborne and air assault operations as the RDF of late 1980s era required mobility in the desert. I’m pretty sure Desert Storm era 82nd and 101st airborne weren’t conducting operations strictly on foot Here’s a video from Desert Storm 82nd Abn with TOW mounted on HMMV  Desert Shield 1990 82nd Airborne. The Prelude to Desert Storm   Jeep crashes to earth during airborne manoeuvres (1952)  Humvee Airdrop From C-17 |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 12:35:46 AM EST
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Even using the Ukrainian brigade structure for a light airborne unit, it still isn't all about moving infantry from point A to point B.
They still have organic fires, organic communications, organic medical, organic engineers, organic logistics, etc. They need artillery and all the associated mobility and sustainment related equipment. They need engineering assets, probably significantly larger than axes and C4. They need upper and lower TI comms. They need reconnaissance capability, which in this fight includes organic UAS and EW. Maintenance and logistics needs a ton of shit.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 12:56:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Posted: 9/17/2024 3:27:33 AM EST
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Posted: 9/17/2024 4:07:51 AM EST
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Lord forgive me but I actually kinda like this ghetto carrier; one competently built and armed with drones and missiles could be a quick firepower boost:
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Posted: 9/17/2024 4:25:13 AM EST
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Posted: 9/17/2024 4:28:20 AM EST
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Posted: 9/17/2024 4:31:41 AM EST
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❗️Warning: sensitive content❗️
Russian military executed a Ukrainian prisoner of war with a sword This was reported by the Ukrainian ombudsman Lubinets. The footage, which appeared the day before, shows that the executed Ukrainian prisoner of war has his hands bandaged and the sword sticking out of his chest bears the inscription "For Kursk". According to telegram channels, which published these photos, this happened in Novohrodivka, Donetsk region. https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1835946716299714850 |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 4:36:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: HIPPO]
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Posted: 9/17/2024 5:51:20 AM EST
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Image from pass yesterday.
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Posted: 9/17/2024 6:25:26 AM EST
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  One strike drone destroyed a Russian tank - the next was the crew, which ran away and tried to hide in an abandoned building. Combat work of the 35th separate marine brigade named after Rear Admiral Mykhailo Ostrogradskyi. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 6:43:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voyager3: Which is exactly how Ukraine got Yanukovich in 2013. Way too many people thought they were making a statement by either not voting or voting for a protest candidate. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voyager3: Originally Posted By Capta: That’s how we ended up with two bad candidates and why we’ll end up with ever worse candidates, because in every election it will be presented as “VOTE FOR YOUR TEAM - SLIGHTLY LESS BAD THAN THE OTHER TEAM.” I will never do that again. There are places where a judgment call is warranted, but this is not one of them. Both parties served up a hard no. I’m open to third party, but likely not the Libertarian this year. Which is exactly how Ukraine got Yanukovich in 2013. Way too many people thought they were making a statement by either not voting or voting for a protest candidate. So they get Yanukovic an election later and they’re guaranteed to get him because of the cycle of lesser of two evils. Stopping the cycle by demanding accountability is how we turn it around, not by rewarding it. |
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Posted: 9/17/2024 6:51:39 AM EST
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2023
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Posted: 9/17/2024 6:59:37 AM EST
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Posted: 9/17/2024 7:01:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: HIPPO]
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drip, drip, drip. and this. |
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