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7/16/2010 8:06:45 AM EDT
Battery was leaking.              I need to remove the Rust from the battery pan of my car.  I can use a wire brush on the parts I can reach, but I need a chemical that will neutralize the rust I can't reach, and provide a good surface to paint.   The chemical has to be harmless to the wires, hoses and belts that are near the area.  In addition, it should be water soluble so I can hose it out, dry it and paint it.  



Also, what type of paint/primer/sealer is best?



It's a semi-collectible car, so I want to do it right.  



Thanks in advance.  You guys have never let me down.  
7/16/2010 8:10:38 AM EDT
[#1]
I've used a spray can called "rust convertor"  on the trailers with good results. You need to remove any scale first though. It turns rust black and you do not need to use primer.

Got it at Autozone.
7/16/2010 8:10:52 AM EDT
[#2]
Go here. should answer all you need

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Be sure to read all the way through.

EBR666
7/16/2010 8:20:54 AM EDT
[#3]



Quoted:


Go here. should answer all you need



Click



Be sure to read all the way through.



EBR666


Good thread, but I can't use the electrolysis method.  The parts are welded inside my engine compartment.  



 
7/16/2010 8:49:19 AM EDT
[#4]
Neutralize the acid with baking soda and warm water, rinse and scrub until its as clean as you can get it, then coat the exposed metal with POR-15
7/16/2010 9:02:43 AM EDT
[#5]
They sell some stuff in the hardware store out this way called Naval Jelly, (ok, get your yuks out now...). It does what you're looking for.  Neutralize the acid first though.
7/16/2010 9:21:50 AM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


They sell some stuff in the hardware store out this way called Naval Jelly, (ok, get your yuks out now...). It does what you're looking for.  Neutralize the acid first though.


Naval Jelly (phosphoric acid) was my first though, but I was wondering if there was a better product on the market by now.





Can anybody recommend a paint or primer to use?  There is still going to be some rust in areas under the pan that I can't reach.  
 
7/16/2010 9:23:37 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Neutralize the acid with baking soda and warm water, rinse and scrub until its as clean as you can get it, then coat the exposed metal with POR-15


This has always worked for me.
7/16/2010 9:27:04 AM EDT
[#8]
1) scraper and wire brush

2) naval jelly

3) rust converter

4) corrosion resistant paint
7/16/2010 9:57:16 AM EDT
[#9]
As was mentioned in another thread, remove radiator cap... replace on new vehicle...

Or, use tannerite?

Ok, aside from, I got nothing.
7/16/2010 10:12:47 AM EDT
[#10]
This is great for rust on car sheet metal:

http://www.por15.com
7/16/2010 10:13:15 AM EDT
[#11]
I had the same thing happen with a sidepost battery from the terminals being tightened down too hard, causing the leak.

I used this stuff:

Permatex Rust Treatment


Two years ago and the rust hasn't showed back up yet.  I just brushed the stuff over the rusty places.  Didn't even paint over it.  It turns black anyway.
7/16/2010 10:38:56 AM EDT
[#12]
Bake out cycle in a vacumm furnace..

Works everytime its tried..

Just make sure you remove any aluminum or zinc first..

Eutectics can be a real bitch sometimes.
7/16/2010 11:07:38 AM EDT
[#13]
Do they sell those at harbor freight?

Quoted:
Bake out cycle in a vacumm furnace..

Works everytime its tried..

Just make sure you remove any aluminum or zinc first..

Eutectics can be a real bitch sometimes.


7/16/2010 11:13:30 AM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:


They sell some stuff in the hardware store out this way called Naval Jelly, (ok, get your yuks out now...). It does what you're looking for.  Neutralize the acid first though.


Neutralize AFTER, since naval jelly is itself acid.



 
7/16/2010 11:15:11 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Do they sell those at harbor freight?

Quoted:
Bake out cycle in a vacumm furnace..

Works everytime its tried..

Just make sure you remove any aluminum or zinc first..

Eutectics can be a real bitch sometimes.




You can buy used small ones but they can get prety pricey.

The ones at work range from $750K to $2.5M.

BTW.. Rust will flash all over the item being heat treated. It sort of fills in the pits in the metal.

7/16/2010 11:23:00 AM EDT
[#16]



Quoted:


1) scraper and wire brush

2) naval jelly

3) rust converter

4) corrosion resistant paint


+1.



Wash the area with baking soda and water and then soapy water to eliminate the acid residue.



Remove any rust scale with a wire brush.



Use a rust catalyst, home depot/lowes and almost all parts stores have it under different brand names. Ospho, "Prep and Prime", "Prep and Etch", "Right Stuff" etc, any variation of rust catalysts with phosphoric acid will do it.



Let the area dry after cleaning scraping, use a brush to douse it liberally with rust catalyst, let dry and paint with rustoleum spray paint, let dry and spray with a can of automotive rubber undercoating to prevent future mishaps.



profit?



 
7/16/2010 11:29:20 AM EDT
[#17]
White Vinegar.
7/16/2010 11:33:47 AM EDT
[#18]
I use this company.



http://www.eastwood.com/rust-solutions/removal.html
7/16/2010 11:47:48 AM EDT
[#19]
Ive had good luck with rustolium's rust converter spray paint. I left some pieces out in the back yard for a while to the point some pitted..bad. Used the spray and boom all is well, I had to test the shit first before I used it on another project.
7/16/2010 11:49:09 AM EDT
[#20]



But really, a wire brush is the best bet.