Posted: 7/18/2006 5:28:05 PM EDT
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I was shooting at club for the first time today and the SO scolded me for a safety violation. Now I was a NRA LE Firearms instructor in a past life and I know I have done this particular thing hunderds of times with my duty gun belt. What I did was I grabbed the bottom of the holster and adjusted/hiked it up on my belt. The SO said that covering the muzzle with my hand was a safety issue even tho the weapon was holstered in a holster with a covered trigger guard. I just answered yes sir, I won't do it again and went on my way. I just wanted to check if anyone else had ever heard of this? I always figure their range, their rules. Your comments are welcome. |
Good lord, he'd probably shit his pants if he saw someone carrying in a shoulder-rig. |
Good point, but I was thinking there was no possible way it could discharge in the holster, when nothing but the holster is touching the weapon, only time I might really worry about it is if I was carrying a 1911 cocked and locked, but my XD would have a really tough time going bang without moving the trigger. As I said I won't argue with the SO, I just wasn't clear on the logic. Regards, Jeff |
Ya, but... ...consider a cocked and locked 1911. To fire, he would have to somehow disengage the safety, depress the grip safety and pull the trigger, all while adjusting his pants somehow. I'm all about safety, but sheesh... I know you guys don't carry in IL (or maybe you do, heh) but your firearm is constantly pointing at something "you don't want to destroy". Depending on method of IWB carry, this could be your ass, thigh, or even the boys.  Safety is great, but a line has to be drawn somewhere. |
It's always the pesky unloaded ones, with no way to fire, that put unwanted holes in things. 
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Understood, but if we are to assume that a loaded gun - pointed at something we don't want to destroy - was going to discharge, none of us would carry. There's no way an XD is going to fire in a proper holster, without pulling the trigger. It can't happen. I still maintain that what he did was perfectly safe. It looks askward, which explains the range officer's insitctive response (I'm not going to bust his balls over it), but in the end the poster did nothing wrong. |
All the time over here in Iraq!  Sit down in the chow hall, you'll have 2 pointed right at your head. People always want to walk around telling you to adjust your uniform or wear a PT belt....and then the Sgt. Majors are walking around with shoulder holsters that point a 9mm right at your head. 
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Agreed, but only when handled, unless of course the weapon is defective. I just don't consider moving a holstered weapon around as handling it. As always YMMV. Jeff |
Yes, but like Subnet Mask said, there has to be a line drawn somewhere. Personally, I adjust my holster by drabbing the grip, steering well clear of the grip safety. No need to place my hand in front of the muzzle. But I carry every single day everywhere I go. Concealed or open carry, the muzzle is ALWAYS pointed at my body somewhere - I am more worried about an AD when I sit, as that CAN depress the grip safety. Still, the thumb safety would have to accidentally been thrown down AND the trigger pulled all at the same time. I don't worry about it too much. |