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Posted: 2/5/2022 10:00:14 PM EST
Got a new S&W shield, in jail until Valentines Day.
Already ordered night sights. When a slide the gun back, when the slide was locked back it was hard to release. I watched some YT vids and if I file the slide stop it will release with my thumb easy but others mention 500-1000 rounds later the slide release will fail. It seems like a poor design if aI have to assist the slide forward and use my thumb. My forearm is now down past the barrel while a round is chambering. Doesn’t sound safe. I’m limited where I live because CA safety roster. Yes I will move one day by until then, any tips/suggestions? I’m also left handed so I’d like it to be easier and if my wife ever needed to chamber a round. Trigger didn’t bother me, kinda prefer it a little heavier for CCW. Holster ideas? Wanted this gun so when the wife and I walk at night in athletic gear and in summer, I don’t want to carry my G19 and full setup. |
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Slide stop*
Use the power stroke technique to release the slide Streamlight TLR-6 for wml Kydex OWB holster MagGuts mag spring kits increase capacity to 10 rounds |
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Alabama holster is a good pocket holster.
https://alabamaholster.com/ |
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I've found it much better to "sling shot" a small pistol (Grab back with off hand pull it back & release). BONUS - It's Ambidextrous for You & your Wife!
The Slide stop lever IS very small & very flat (better for carry - but not much horizontal surface to push down upon) & in a Real Life or Death situation, "Fine" motor skills (find tiny skinny lever with lots of pressure to push down) suffer from the stress & adrenaline of Action while "Gross" motor skills are better retained like basic Grab & Release of the slide. The added benefit is you give the slide just a bit more free running to build up slide speed to strip off that top round too and it works well in either hand. The Smith & Wesson M&P Shield Range Session 5:55 in the Video The New Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 2.0 Review 6:30 in the Video I would never File on the Slide stop lever. I still practice "Sling Shot" for slide release on my pistols for best reload. The Shield Slide stop release lever over time WILL "Smooth" out the more you shoot it, but it is what it is. It's not some extended shelf 1911 wide-o for easy thumb ontop of it use. Because of the strong recoil spring on the very small slide movement distance window (compare to full sized guns), the Shield Slide stop just had to have more pressure to both hold the slide open when to empty and thus you need more pressure to release it if you try to just thumb it. SLINGSHOT is where it's At for a Shield!! Hope this helps! BIGGER_HAMMER @rabidus |
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I don't understand why people are so spergy about calling it a slide release.
If it weren't meant to also be used to release the slide, why would it have notches in the top of it to give you additional texture for when you push down on it? |
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The Texture on the Slide Stop Release Lever on both of my two Shields, seems better textured when you are pushing UP to manually lock the slide open, than to push it DOWN to TRY to speed load & drop the slide by "thumbing it".
BIGGER_HAMMER |
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Thanks is for the replies everybody. Many of you posted products/techniques that I was unaware existed and look to fit the bill.
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I currently use a Sticky holster for EDC when using my M&P Shield 9. Works great when wearing cargo shorts. No printing.
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Quoted: You sure about that? https://www.primaryarms.com/SSP%20Applications/NetSuite%20Inc.%20-%20SCA%20Mont%20Blanc/Development/img/SW11806_03.jpg https://www.boresightsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/SWMPShield.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I don't understand why people are so spergy about calling it a slide release. If it weren't meant to also be used to release the slide, why would it have notches in the top of it to give you additional texture for when you push down on it? You sure about that? https://www.primaryarms.com/SSP%20Applications/NetSuite%20Inc.%20-%20SCA%20Mont%20Blanc/Development/img/SW11806_03.jpg https://www.boresightsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/SWMPShield.jpg Pretty sure. |
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Quoted: The Texture on the Slide Stop Release Lever on both of my two Shields, seems better textured when you are pushing UP to manually lock the slide open, than to push it DOWN to TRY to speed load & drop the slide by "thumbing it". BIGGER_HAMMER View Quote It's textured both ways. That should be a hint. |
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I only own one Shield. A Plus model that is now my EDC.
I could not release the slide with the stop on the first range trip. Cleaned the gun after and put a dab of grease on the release and notch. Doesn't release as easily as my old G27, but it does work. |
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Kinda thinking why S&W did this? What if you only have 1 hand working? Why make the slide stop/release a two handed operation?
It’s a CCW pistol. I need it to be a KISS as much as possible. |
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I question the wisdom of using the slide retention lever as a release. First, sling shotting the slide is much faster. Second, by using the lever you are rubbing two pieces of metal under considerable pressure. That induces wear.
I have two pistols that have slide retention slots that are so worn that they fail from time to time. Also, slingshotting is generally much easier for people with weaker hands, i.e. women. Finally, it is easier to operate the slide without even looking. Using the lever is much more labor intensive. |
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Quoted: Kinda thinking why S&W did this? What if you only have 1 hand working? Why make the slide stop/release a two handed operation? It’s a CCW pistol. I need it to be a KISS as much as possible. View Quote If I had to guess they make the slide stop to slide engagement as aggressive as they can to assure slide lock in empty magazine. |
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Quoted: I question the wisdom of using the slide retention lever as a release. First, sling shotting the slide is much faster. Second, by using the lever you are rubbing two pieces of metal under considerable pressure. That induces wear. I have two pistols that have slide retention slots that are so worn that they fail from time to time. Also, slingshotting is generally much easier for people with weaker hands, i.e. women. Finally, it is easier to operate the slide without even looking. Using the lever is much more labor intensive. View Quote What if your weak hand is wounded or you do not have one? My new gun required other the slide release and pulling back on it. Many say it’s still new and will with use only require using your off hand. I’m also a lefty, my G19, my index finger easily releases the slide if I cant use off hand. |
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lock the slide open
take a close look at the engagement surface of the slide stop remove the slide/barrel LIGHTLY polish the engagement surface with a fine stone or 600grit sandpaper just lightly polish off the high spots machining marks no do reshape it done. . . . ….or lock the slide back, and push down on the slide stop lever 1000 times to smooth it out . |
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Don't file anything. All of my M&P's were like that after 300-500 rnds it will work fine.
On another note my new shield plus has the auto slide feature that they took away on the bigger guns. I love that feature. |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't understand why people are so spergy about calling it a slide release. If it weren't meant to also be used to release the slide, why would it have notches in the top of it to give you additional texture for when you push down on it? You sure about that? https://www.primaryarms.com/SSP%20Applications/NetSuite%20Inc.%20-%20SCA%20Mont%20Blanc/Development/img/SW11806_03.jpg https://www.boresightsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/SWMPShield.jpg Pretty sure. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-tkAAOSwZ8ZW12t3/s-l640.jpg That for the compact, not the shield? |
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Quoted: lock the slide open take a close look at the engagement surface of the slide stop remove the slide/barrel LIGHTLY polish the engagement surface with a fine stone or 600grit sandpaper just lightly polish off the high spots machining marks no do reshape it done. . . . ….or lock the slide back, and push down on the slide stop lever 1000 times to smooth it out . View Quote Ok. I got mother’s polish, it’s 16,000 grit. Will use that! |
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Quoted: You sure about that? https://www.primaryarms.com/SSP%20Applications/NetSuite%20Inc.%20-%20SCA%20Mont%20Blanc/Development/img/SW11806_03.jpg https://www.boresightsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/SWMPShield.jpg View Quote eww a safety |
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Cleaned up the gun, installed night sights and take it out to the range on Saturday.
I didn’t polish the slidestop/release yet and cycled it 20 or so times. Polished the feed ramp. Just used a Q tip and Mother’s Polish. Also used Renaissance wax on the slide as this will eventually be a CCW. |
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Shot it yesterday. Hit a 135yd plate 4 out of 5 times using my own cast powdercoated bullets.
Bore is .356” so I’ll have to not size my bullets once they are powdercoated. Great little pistol! Orange dot stood out best for me and I find the dot easy when transitioning. Attached File |
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Sling shot the slide instead of trying to manipulate the slide stop.
I use a Detroit Kydex holster for my shield. I’m also lefty. I sling shot my Glock. If you only got one hand to use (your reasoning for using the “slide release”) you’re going to have problems putting in a new mag before you even get to where you need to release the slide stop. |
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Quoted: Sling shot the slide instead of trying to manipulate the slide stop. I use a Detroit Kydex holster for my shield. View Quote After shooting the gun, as many said would happen earlier did happen, slide was easier to close using the slide stop and slingshot. Will get Magguts mag springs next month and a desantis holster and I think this pistol is done. |
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Quoted: Shot it yesterday. Hit a 135yd plate 4 out of 5 times using my own cast powdercoated bullets. Bore is .356” so I’ll have to not size my bullets once they are powdercoated. Great little pistol! Orange dot stood out best for me and I find the dot easy when transitioning. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/170028/194AE369-CFA1-417F-89C4-C06E8005B43E_jpe-2287341.JPG View Quote Nice looking pistol. Have Shields always had a loaded chamber indicator? I don't recall noticing those before. |
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Don’t file it. If you insist on using a slide stop as a slide release, just do it a hundred times and it will smooth out.
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Quoted: Nice looking pistol. Have Shields always had a loaded chamber indicator? I don't recall noticing those before. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Shot it yesterday. Hit a 135yd plate 4 out of 5 times using my own cast powdercoated bullets. Bore is .356” so I’ll have to not size my bullets once they are powdercoated. Great little pistol! Orange dot stood out best for me and I find the dot easy when transitioning. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/170028/194AE369-CFA1-417F-89C4-C06E8005B43E_jpe-2287341.JPG Nice looking pistol. Have Shields always had a loaded chamber indicator? I don't recall noticing those before. CA law. Can remove it if I wanted but is low on the priority list. |
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Ditching the magazine safety and putting in an Apex trigger shoe don't hurt either. My trigger is purple.
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Quoted: I don't understand why people are so spergy about calling it a slide release. If it weren't meant to also be used to release the slide, why would it have notches in the top of it to give you additional texture for when you push down on it? View Quote Some guns like the PPK have an internal slide stop that you can't operate manually. You have to slingshot the slide. For those guns with an external slide release, I have to assume the designer intended it to be used to drop the slide after a mag change. |
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I have a first gen Sheild and the only thing I changed was to get an aftermarket sear because the trigger pull with the factory one was so bad I couldn't hit shit with it. With the improved trigger I was shooting fist sized groups rapid fire at 21 feet, so good enough for me.
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My shield's slide stop loosened up after a few hundred rounds.
I wouldn't fuck with it, just shoot it. |
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