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6/23/2008 10:00:01 PM EDT
Let's say the 2nd is determined not to be an individual right.

What's to stop a state from forming an official "well regulated" state militia and simply making every citizen of the state an honorary member when they get their drivers license?
6/23/2008 10:12:05 PM EDT
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6/23/2008 10:12:30 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Let's say the 2nd is determined not to be an individual right.

What's to stop a state from forming an official "well regulated" state militia and simply making every citizen of the state an honorary member when they get their drivers license?


Politicians. You know that would never happen. Except maybe they might try it in Alaska....then secede....then take over Canada using polar bear cavalry...
6/23/2008 10:12:53 PM EDT
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Montana might go that route...if they don't follow through on their threat to beat feet out of the Union.  Be interesting to see what Washington and specifically BATFEces does if they start handing out Class 3 weapons to the militia to keep at home.
6/23/2008 10:13:36 PM EDT
[#4]
Kind of depends on what your state's constitution says. AZ declares plainly that the right to keep and bear arms is the right of the individual citizen.
6/23/2008 10:14:04 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Montana might go that route...if they don't follow through on their threat to beat feet out of the Union.  Be interesting to see what Washington and specifically BATFEces does if they start handing out Class 3 weapons to the militia to keep at home.


Abe Lincoln would climb out of his grave and go shit on the founding fathers' graves then convince the current president to go to war against Montana.
6/23/2008 10:23:23 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Be interesting to see what Washington and specifically BATFEces does if they start handing out Class 3 weapons to the militia to keep at home.


I'm going to guess "Charge them all with NFA violations."
6/23/2008 10:30:59 PM EDT
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6/23/2008 10:36:35 PM EDT
[#8]
"10 USC 312, and 32 USC 313.
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United States Code (USC)

TITLE 10--ARMED FORCES

Section 311. Militia: composition and classes

 (a) The militia of the United States consists
of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age
and, except as provided in section 313 of title
32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have
made a declaration of intention to become, citi-
zens of the United States and of female citizens
of the United States who are commissioned of-
ficers of the National Guard.
 (b) The classes of the militia are--
   (1) the organized militia, which consists of
 the National Guard and the Naval Militia;
 and
   (2) the unorganized militia, which consists
 of the members of the militia who are not
 members of the National Guard or the Naval
 Militia.


Section 312. Militia duty: exemptions

 (a) The following persons are exempt from
militia duty:
   (1) The Vice President.
   (2) The judicial and executive officers of
 the United States, the several States and Ter-
 ritories, Puerto Rico, and the Canal Zone.
   (3) Members of the armed forces, except
 members who are not on active duty.
   (4) Customhouse clerks.
   (5) Persons employed by the United States
 in the transmission of mail.
   (6) Workers employed in armories, arse-
 nals, and naval shipyards of the United
 States.
   (7) Pilots on navigable waters.
   (8) Mariners in the sea service of a citizen
 of, or a merchant in, the United States.

 (b) A person who claims exemption because
of religious belief is exempt from militia duty
in a combatant capacity, if the conscientious
holding of that belief is established under such
regulations as the President may prescribe.
However, such a person is not exempt from mi-
litia duty that the President determines to be
noncombatant.


TITLE 32--NATIONAL GUARD

Section 313. Appointments and enlistments: age limitations

 (a) To be eligible for original enlistment in
the National Guard, a person must be at least
17 years of age and under 45, or under 64 years
of age and a former member of the Regular
Army, Regular Navy, Regular Air Force, or
Regular Marine Corps. To be eligible for reen-
listment, a person must be under 64 years of age.
 (b) To be eligible for appointment as an offi-
cer of the National Guard, a person must--
   (1) be a citizen of the United States; and
   (2) be at least 18 years of age and under 64.

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WE Already are the milita... and thanks to Equal rights so are women
6/23/2008 10:41:59 PM EDT
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Quoted:
"10 USC 312, and 32 USC 313.
-----
United States Code (USC)

TITLE 10--ARMED FORCES

Section 311. Militia: composition and classes

 (a) The militia of the United States consists
of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age
and, except as provided in section 313 of title
32, under 45 years of agewho are, or who have
made a declaration of intention to become, citi-
zens of the United States and of female citizens
of the United States who are commissioned of-
ficers of the National Guard.
 (b) The classes of the militia are--
   (1) the organized militia, which consists of
 the National Guard and the Naval Militia;
 and
   (2) the unorganized militia, which consists
 of the members of the militia who are not
 members of the National Guard or the Naval
 Militia.

snip....

TITLE 32--NATIONAL GUARD

Section 313. Appointments and enlistments: age limitations

(a) To be eligible for original enlistment in
the National Guard, a person must be at least
17 years of age and under 45, or under 64 years
of age and a former member of the Regular
Army, Regular Navy, Regular Air Force, or
Regular Marine Corps. To be eligible for reen-
listment, a person must be under 64 years of age.
(b) To be eligible for appointment as an offi-
cer of the National Guard, a person must--
(1) be a citizen of the United States; and
(2) be at least 18 years of age and under 64.




I might be wrong but that "law" seems in itself to be in conflict with the 2nd. I don't recall an age limit imposed in the Bill of Rights.