Posted: 8/22/2008 12:49:27 PM EDT
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Does anyone know of any 7.62mm/.308 Sniper weapons systems in current LEO use? I would also like to hear about any sub-calibres, but again semi-auto. I am aware of Oberland Arms HK 417 Sig 550 Thanks in anticipation 
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Our team bought an Armalite to test but they weren't really impressed with the accuracy. I expect it was stock related as they bought an off the shelf with a carbine type stock.  They were looking at the SASS style that the military is moving to but have decided instead on another bolt rifle. Check knights armament super sass it looks like a nice system. Joe |
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I use a Springfield M14. Not Springfield Armory, Inc., but an original M14 with match barrel and trigger. It was born in 1959, on the first day of M14 production at the .gov armory. Its slightly older brother is in the Springfield museum. It's as accurate as a bolt gun out to 500 yards, longest range I've had it at. It's old, it's bulky, it's fat, but I'm not concerned in the least with its function and accuracy. Happy hunting. |
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I went to the USAMU Sniper school (1978). The M21 (NM M14 with ART Scope) was the Army's sniper rifle back then. There were several cops that went through that school who's department used the M21. Even the FBI sniper program started out sending their agents to the USAMU Sniper/Counter Sniper School using the M21. Don't know who does not. Although several Wyoming HP carry M-14s |
| Oh boy... you wanna see something impressive?? Check out POF-USA's semi auto .308's!!!! Frank had a 16" .308 that was shooting 1/3" at 100. I saw it with my very own eyes. My next purchase will be a loaded POF-USA rifle. I have an Armalite AR10A4 that shoots 3/4" at 100 and a Savage 10FP with Choate stock that can shoot 1/2". Either way, the likely-hood of a Urban rifle operator having to shoot past 200 yards is kind of rare IMO. |
| We use Armalite AR15's with an 18" barrel and 55 gr. WBST. I am very confident with it, but we lose velocity and energy the further out we get compared to the larger caliber bolt guns. My rounds start to tumble around 700 yards, not that we will deploy or take shots out to that distance in our urban environment. |
I have had made and seen very consistent hits out to 920 yds with a .223 AR platform. We were shooting 77gr sierra matchking black hills ammo out of a 1:7.7 18" barrel. Accuracy was not the issue, but rather making sure we could dial the dope and reading the wind were the biggest challenges. |
I could only wish we had a larger selection in our ammunition. For our 5.56/.223 we are limited to the WBST in 55 grain and the Federal Tactical Bonded in 62 grain for barriers. Our entry weapons also use the WBST 55 grain and with the exception of the FTB 62 grain ammunition the rest of the departments patrol rifles use the 55 grain WBST. The only authorized stuff we have. |
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We also employ AI AW's in .308. Those use the 168 grain WBST or 168 Fed. Tactical Bonded in 168 grain. Half our snipers carry the "mouse guns" the other half carry the bolt guns. |
Do all snipers qualify on both types, or do you 'graduate' from one to the other? |
| If you deploy regularly with a partner you can cross qualify on their rifle. We typically try and deploy a mouse gun with a bolt gun. You don't necessarily graduate from one rifle to the other. It is just a matter of what was available when you filled the vacancy. |
So would a pair go out with a .223 and a .308 and the most suitable weapon deployed according to the circumstances of the job, the other becoming the spotter? Seems like a good idea if your dept. has the resorces. Sometimes a .308 can be too much gun. |