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5/17/2013 10:22:43 PM EDT
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/17/politics/nra-recall-colorado/



If it's something that is in any way pro-gun, then it HAS to be the NRA.



This is ridiculous.



Yes, they helped with a mailer. They
           didn't give us cash. They didn't give us $20,000 like
           Bloomberg gave Morse. They didn't buy us $15,000 in tv ads.
           


           


           If the NRA was behind this there would be a TON more
           advertising from them. The fact of the matter is we're
           grassroots and our fund raising has been such. We've done
           this on a shoestring budget. At the start of this no one
           thought we had a chance so none of the big groups got on
           board. For instance RMGO leader Dudley Brown (whom you would
           think would be on board) has railed us every opportunity
           he's gotten. As you can see, the NRA sent out some
           postcards. That's it. They've been very friendly, and wished
           us luck, but that's where the interaction stops.



They refuse to believe that citizens are capable of standing up and saying NO to bad laws and bad legislators. Just amazing.



Please comment on that article to set the record straight if you can.
5/17/2013 10:32:58 PM EDT
[#1]
Communist
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I don't even bother with them anymore.
5/17/2013 10:35:57 PM EDT
[#2]
I applaud your efforts and success, but the comment section of that article is a waste of time. I wish all of you in Colorado the best of luck.

My heart aches for this country.
5/18/2013 5:23:48 AM EDT
[#3]
Clown News Network






Watching this country flatline.







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5/18/2013 5:26:20 AM EDT
[#4]



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Communist

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I don't even bother with them anymore.


I don't watch ANY broadcast news, I get all my info from the web.

 
5/18/2013 5:31:40 AM EDT
[#5]
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Communist
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I don't even bother with them anymore.


Ha, good one.
5/18/2013 5:35:56 AM EDT
[#6]
They say "NRA" as a catch-all for any gun rights movement or group because a lot of people have very negative feelings towards the NRA is and because they want to cast our side as faceless, corporate lobbyists. Admitting that we are really millions of regular people concerned about our rights would make it harder to marginalize and dismiss us.
5/18/2013 5:47:53 AM EDT
[#7]
Has the NRA hate gotten so bad we are determined to argue with CNN that they did nothing, while ignoring the reality of what CNNs comments really mean in terms of the role of the NRA?
5/18/2013 6:03:03 AM EDT
[#8]
Clinton News Network..do you expect anything less?
5/18/2013 6:10:12 AM EDT
[#9]
The NRA did announce support for the lawsuit.
5/18/2013 6:20:23 AM EDT
[#10]

...the National Rifle Association is attempting to coordinate the recall of a top state legislator over his role in the passage of new gun restrictions, CNN has learned.


This statement is not, according to what you said, inaccurate. I'm not sure exactly what it means. "We are attempting to coordinate..." doesn't sound like something the NRA puts in their press releases. It sounds like something a CNN writer invents when he finds out that NRA sent out a mailer.

I think it's a good thing. I hope they played the Darth Vader theme when they ran the story. As a matter of fact, go back and read that story with this playing in the background.

This is better than a $1,000,000 donation from CNN to the ILA. Vote for a gun law? The NRA Death Star is coming after you.

I love it.
5/18/2013 6:26:12 AM EDT
[#11]
Morse fingered the NRA, they were just happy to report it without fact checking.

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5/18/2013 6:44:16 AM EDT
[#12]
I don't recall the stats, but recalls usually are not successful, in the general sense.

I hope the SOB's get recalled.

getting the s*** laws off of the books is another problem.  what has once been screwed cannot be unscrewed.

billy boy
5/18/2013 6:44:39 AM EDT
[#13]
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...the National Rifle Association is attempting to coordinate the recall of a top state legislator over his role in the passage of new gun restrictions, CNN has learned.


This statement is not, according to what you said, inaccurate. I'm not sure exactly what it means. "We are attempting to coordinate..." doesn't sound like something the NRA puts in their press releases. It sounds like something a CNN writer invents when he finds out that NRA sent out a mailer.

I think it's a good thing. I hope they played the Darth Vader theme when they ran the story. As a matter of fact, go back and read that story with this playing in the background.

This is better than a $1,000,000 donation from CNN to the ILA. Vote for a gun law? The NRA Death Star is coming after you.

I love it.


Indeed.

The statement is not inaccurate.

In fact, it not only shows the NRA did not launch the recall, but it implies the recall was a grassroots initiative, by groups few readers will have heard of.

However, by adding the sinister note about the NRA "attempting to coordinate" they make it suddenly scary, and relevant.  You see, CNN, unlike many here in GD, knows what the NRA can do.  They know how effective the NRA can be at coordinating such efforts.

Funny, though, to see the anti-NRA bile starting to spew from many who ostensibly support the recall effort.  They seem determined to spoil it, as their hate for the NRA and desire to foster or maintain divisions among gun owners is greater than their desire to make the recall happen.
5/18/2013 6:55:25 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/17/politics/nra-recall-colorado/

If it's something that is in any way pro-gun, then it HAS to be the NRA.

This is ridiculous.

Yes, they helped with a mailer. They            didn't give us cash. They didn't give us $20,000 like            Bloomberg gave Morse. They didn't buy us $15,000 in tv ads.            
           
           If the NRA was behind this there would be a TON more            advertising from them. The fact of the matter is we're            grassroots and our fund raising has been such. We've done            this on a shoestring budget. At the start of this no one            thought we had a chance so none of the big groups got on            board. For instance RMGO leader Dudley Brown (whom you would            think would be on board) has railed us every opportunity            he's gotten. As you can see, the NRA sent out some            postcards. That's it. They've been very friendly, and wished            us luck, but that's where the interaction stops.

They refuse to believe that citizens are capable of standing up and saying NO to bad laws and bad legislators. Just amazing.

Please comment on that article to set the record straight if you can.


CNN had a bullshit piece about this playing while I was waiting at the airport yesterday (I normally don't watch such crap). They were interviewing Morse, and it sounded like he was taunting his opponents calling them unorganized and saying they failed to collect any significant amount of signatures. I couldn't quite understand all that he was saying since the airport had announcements blaring over the speakers.

Hats off to you fellas for your movement! I'm sure Morse was lying during his little rant yesterday. If your efforts have caught his attention, I'm sure you're doing it right!
5/18/2013 6:59:15 AM EDT
[#15]
dont get me wrong, i love the nra. they get shit done. im a current member. my issue is that our organization and push back are grassroots and its the people of colorado doing this, not a national organization. that distinction needs to be made.
5/18/2013 7:07:59 AM EDT
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5/18/2013 7:08:14 AM EDT
[#17]
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dont get me wrong, i love the nra. they get shit done. im a current member. my issue is that our organization and push back are grassroots and its the people of colorado doing this, not a national organization. that distinction needs to be made.


Even the quotes from the guy being targeted acknowledge the grassroots... roots.
5/18/2013 7:33:48 AM EDT
[#18]
It was just reported by Jeff Crank on KVOR, that he has seen an email from top Democrats that if Morse is recalled they will ask
for his resignation so as to have the Governor appoint a Democrat in his place.  This how a progressive crushes the will of the
people.
5/18/2013 7:43:42 AM EDT
[#19]
This is the left wing socialists who are trying to create the narrative. Their strategy is to divide and conquer by making it look like only an insignificantly small, but very powerful group is standing in the way of "the people." So, they twist the truth, they exaggerate, and out right lie to swing the low information voter. Get you talking points together, be clear that this is grass roots, preach that it is is grass roots every chance you get to prevent the liberals from controlling the narrative.
5/18/2013 7:46:21 AM EDT
[#20]
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I don't even bother with them anymore.


And there you have it!.....Couldn't have said it any better......
5/18/2013 7:50:04 AM EDT
[#21]



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I don't even bother with them anymore.




And there you have it!.....Couldn't have said it any better......


Them getting busted for faking a satellite feed was worth the price of admission.  

 



It's one of the few times I've watched.  They have some decent op-ed pieces, but for real news, they somehow fail to deliver the AP wire like ever other news agency on the planet.  




Most of us voted with the clicker years ago.  I don't think there is anything they could do to get me watching again outside firing every single person working there and a total rebranding.
5/18/2013 7:57:12 AM EDT
[#22]
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This is the left wing socialists who are trying to create the narrative. Their strategy is to divide and conquer by making it look like only an insignificantly small, but very powerful group is standing in the way of "the people." So, they twist the truth, they exaggerate, and out right lie to swing the low information voter. Get you talking points together, be clear that this is grass roots, preach that it is is grass roots every chance you get to prevent the liberals from controlling the narrative.


+1
5/18/2013 7:58:24 AM EDT
[#23]
I'm am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

5/18/2013 7:59:55 AM EDT
[#24]
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It was just reported by Jeff Crank on KVOR, that he has seen an email from top Democrats that if Morse is recalled they will ask
for his resignation so as to have the Governor appoint a Democrat in his place.  This how a progressive crushes the will of the
people.


Then recall the Governor.
5/18/2013 8:00:45 AM EDT
[#25]
That right there is exactly why the NRA likes to work behind the scenes and through state level organizations.  The state level groups are running the show and using local people to do it...the NRA just helps their process.



Remember this every time you see an NRA bashing saying "What isn't the NRA doing anything in my state?".
5/18/2013 8:06:15 AM EDT
[#26]
I don't see the NRA here in Pueblo.  I am sitting at a shopping center right now with a recall petition.   This is the people of Pueblo recalling Giron, not the NRA.
5/18/2013 10:50:44 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
It was just reported by Jeff Crank on KVOR, that he has seen an email from top Democrats that if Morse is recalled they will ask
for his resignation so as to have the Governor appoint a Democrat in his place.  This how a progressive crushes the will of the
people.


This tactic would not surprise me.  Anything to thwart the will of the people and not lose face on the national scene.  I hope the Dems get absolutely thumped in the midterms.  It would be nice to have a veto-proof super majority to undo the bidding of these progressives.
5/18/2013 11:00:39 AM EDT
[#28]
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I don't see the NRA here in Pueblo.  I am sitting at a shopping center right now with a recall petition.   This is the people of Pueblo recalling Giron, not the NRA.


None of them are NRA members?

Or, do you expect some guy in an Eddie Eagle costume to show up and rally the troops?
5/18/2013 11:09:44 AM EDT
[#29]
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I don't even bother with them anymore.




FPNI

5/18/2013 11:17:01 AM EDT
[#30]
Has the RMGO helped at all?
5/18/2013 12:20:16 PM EDT
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Has the RMGO helped at all?


All I have seen from Dudly is that the recall process is an expensive waste of time......until this week when I got an e-mail about the Evie Hudak recall which he seems oddly behind.
5/18/2013 12:33:51 PM EDT
[#32]
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I don't see the NRA here in Pueblo.  I am sitting at a shopping center right now with a recall petition.   This is the people of Pueblo recalling Giron, not the NRA.


None of them are NRA members?

Or, do you expect some guy in an Eddie Eagle costume to show up and rally the troops?


I am an NRA life member.  I fully support the NRA, however this recall has nothing to do with the NRA.  They didn't start this, they don't direct this, and they have given us nothing but phone numbers of lawyers to call.

There is no money, and no "behind the scenes" help going towards our recall in Pueblo.
5/18/2013 4:38:56 PM EDT
[#33]
All communists are liars.
5/18/2013 5:02:41 PM EDT
[#34]
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I don't even bother with them anymore.

I don't watch ANY broadcast news, I get all my info from the web.  


It is bad when Al Jazeera seems to be the most credible news network