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1/22/2004 6:06:26 AM EDT
Have you ever noticed that in the classic western and action movies, when guns are being smuggled to the injuns, rebels, or badin’s, the crates are usually marked “machine tools” or “medical supplies” or such?

Recently, I wanted to ship several rifles to a cryogenic processing company for tempering. I ask the girlfriend to do my shipping because she is an eBay Power Seller, and is completely set-up for daily shipping.

Anyway, I checked the tracking number the next day to verify that the package is moving to the proper destination, and I notice in the shipment detail under description, she has listed “machine tools.”

I had to . Guess my g/f obviously has seen too many movies!
1/22/2004 6:12:25 AM EDT
[#1]
I usually use machine parts...after all, that's all a gun is, is parts in tight formation [:D]

1/22/2004 6:14:51 AM EDT
[#2]
I always use "machine parts".  Just to avoid any problems with idiot UPS employees.
1/22/2004 6:29:42 AM EDT
[#3]
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I usually use machine parts...after all, that's all a gun is, is parts in tight formation [:D]

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A bunch of random chunks of metal that just [i]happen[/i] to have the cumulative effect of sending yet another chunk of metal flying in roughly a straight line at a motivated speed.
1/22/2004 10:03:37 AM EDT
[#4]
"Machine Parts"
Hmmmm, good description.

Remember the Clint Eastwood film "Thunderbolt & Lightfoot?" When John 'Thunderbolt' Doherty, played by Clint, orders a 20mm cannon, it comes in a crate marked "machine tools!" [}:D]
1/22/2004 10:19:25 AM EDT
[#5]
Precision ASSEMBLED Machined Parts....
1/22/2004 10:27:04 AM EDT
[#6]
It is not wise to post on the Internet you are violating the law. FYI the carrier must be informed you are shipping a firearm.

From the ATF FAQ:

[url]http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b8[/url]

(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U. S. Postal Service? A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. A nonlicensee may not transfer any firearm to a nonlicensed resident of another state. The Postal Service recommends that longguns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms.

(B9) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be
used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract
carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. [18 U. S. C. 922( a)( 2)( A) and 922( e), 27 CFR 178.31]
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1/22/2004 10:32:10 AM EDT
[#7]
holy shit, not this argument again!!!!!!!!  im outta here before jim_dandy shows up, and whoever else was the other side, i killed that brain cell
1/22/2004 10:38:40 AM EDT
[#8]
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holy shit, not this argument again!!!!!!!!  
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No shit!, I wish people would do a little research before they go off spewing filth from there pie-holes about how such and such is breaking the law...
1/22/2004 10:40:18 AM EDT
[#9]
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It is not wise to post on the Internet you are violating the law. FYI the carrier must be informed you are shipping a firearm.

From the ATF FAQ:

[url]http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b8[/url]

(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U. S. Postal Service? A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. A nonlicensee may not transfer any firearm to a nonlicensed resident of another state. The Postal Service recommends that longguns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms.

(B9) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be
used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract
carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. [18 U. S. C. 922( a)( 2)( A) and 922( e), 27 CFR 178.31]
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Bzzt......try again.....

[size=6]THE ATF FAQ INCORRECTLY STATES FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS THAT DO NOT EXIST![/size=6]

[url=http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=130&t=214477&w=searchPop]Here's[/url] the comprehensive thread on this matter please make sure to click on the url I provide to Cornell's Law Library that encompasses the [b]ACTUAL[/b] law....
1/22/2004 10:47:46 AM EDT
[#10]
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holy shit, not this argument again!!!!!!!!  im outta here before jim_dandy shows up, and whoever else was the other side, i killed that brain cell
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Jim Dandy vs jrzy.
Beer killed that braincell, Tex, not that argument [}:D]
1/22/2004 11:21:47 AM EDT
[#11]
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It is not wise to post on the Internet you are violating the {blab, blab, blab}
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Not only are you wrong, but you are ruining my thread.
Don't only go away, but go quickly.

[b]TO everyone else with a sense of humor[/b], let's think of all the movies where the badin's labeled the crates of {winchester or somesuch} rifles something other than "rifles" soas John Wayne or the hero would miss the obvious!
1/22/2004 11:46:24 AM EDT
[#12]
How about all those explosives that Wiley E. Coyote used to get that were simply marked "ACME".

[:D]