Posted: 12/1/2006 1:54:25 PM EDT
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Here is another fine example of this administrations alternate universe. (and extreme waste of money). Is this a way to funnel money into their base for all the support? Are religious christian entities receiveing this money? If so then so much for the seperation of church and state. Abstinence message goes beyond teens By Sharon Jayson, USA TODAY The federal government's "no sex without marriage" message isn't just for kids anymore. Now the government is targeting unmarried adults up to age 29 as part of its abstinence-only programs, which include millions of dollars in federal money that will be available to the states under revised federal grant guidelines for 2007. The government says the change is a clarification. But critics say it's a clear signal of a more directed policy targeting the sexual behavior of adults. "They've stepped over the line of common sense," said James Wagoner, president of Advocates for Youth, a Washington, D.C.-based non-profit that supports sex education. "To be preaching abstinence when 90% of people are having sex is in essence to lose touch with reality. It's an ideological campaign. It has nothing to do with public health." Abstinence education programs, which have focused on preteens and teens, teach that abstaining from sex is the only effective or acceptable method to prevent pregnancy or disease. They give no instruction on birth control or safe sex. The National Center for Health Statistics says well over 90% of adults ages 20-29 have had sexual intercourse. But Wade Horn, assistant secretary for children and families at the Department of Health and Human Services, said the revision is aimed at 19- to 29-year-olds because more unmarried women in that age group are having children. Government data released last month show that 998,262 births in 2004 were to unmarried women 19-29, the ages with the most births to unmarried women. "The message is 'It's better to wait until you're married to bear or father children,' " Horn said. "The only 100% effective way of getting there is abstinence." The revised guidelines specify that states seeking grants are "to identify groups ... most likely to bear children out-of-wedlock, targeting adolescents and/or adults within the 12- through 29-year-old age range." Previous guidelines didn't mention targeting of an age group. "We wanted to remind states they could use these funds not only to target adolescents," Horn said. "It's a reminder." Last year, 46 states applied for the federal abstinence-education money, to fund programs in schools, neighborhood clubs and faith-based organizations. Sarah Brown, director of the National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy, says abstinence programs are among many messages that have helped reduce teen pregnancy rates. But "the notion that the federal government is supporting millions of dollars worth of messages to people who are grown adults about how to conduct their sex life is a very divisive policy," she says. "We would oppose any program that stigmatizes unmarried people," adds Nicky Grist, executive director of the Alternatives to Marriage Project, a non-profit organization based in Brooklyn, N.Y., that advocates for the rights of unmarried people. For last year's state grants, Congress appropriated $50 million. A similar amount is expected for 2007, but the money has not yet been allocated, according to the Administration for Children and Families. "I think the program should talk about the problem with out-of- wedlock childbearing — not about your sex life," Brown says. "If you use contraception effectively and consistently, you will not be in the pool of out-of-wedlock births." Yeah, this will work! |
They could hold classes to teach people how to masturbate BETTER. Lord knows my sex life got a lot better after the internet taught me how to use my right hand more skillfully.... 
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See - that's positive thinking right there!
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That has to be one of the most thought inspired thoughts that I have heard here in years! Whack it for uncle sam! |
Hey man, the glass his half...errr...one tenth full. |
Yeah, they could send a copy of the Paris Hilton sex vid as an incentive. |
I bet the government could get a halluva volume discount on porn. 
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how come liberals (yes liberals) only get outraged at government spending when they throw a few measly million bucks at some "faith based" program? You dont seem to mind the government giving hundreds of billions to crackheads so they can sit around and smoke crack all day and spread AIDS around. |
Uh, that's been tried and Dr. Joycelyn Elders was fired as Surgeon General by Bill Clinton for suggesting it. |
You know...I love to hate her, but she kinda sorta had a point, in a roundabout way. |
  - When people just come right out and say that fucking everything you can and producing children you have no intention of providing a real home for is - Just the way it is now.
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I'm already married. I'm just trying to set a good example. You're welcome.
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FUCK THAT!!! Back when chicks got married off at 15 and guys in their early twenties, no sex before marriage made sense. Society has pushed marriage beyond being coordinated puberty, then its only natural to have sex before marriage. Don't be stupid and don't have a kid, then there is nothing wrong with it.  Damn bible beaters 
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I'm guessing this was directed to me. I don't like them wasting money period! crackheads, welfare, pork in general. Trying to prevent teen pregnancy I understand. Trying to tell a 20+ year old to abstain because they aren't married is idiotic. |
You should get a masturbatory medal from the .gov for going above and beyond. |
I agree with both of you, I think. We should save the millions going towards adult abstinence. Then we should save the tens through hundreds of billions of dollars that we spend taking care of everyone else who doesn't deserve it (lazy slobs). If you want to bump uglies and have kids when you can't support them, don't come crying to the .gov for handouts. No more handouts - period- maybe people will think twice before squeezing out a few too many. |
+1; She was way ahead of her time 
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Why because you're so weak and lack discipline that you can't imagine someone strong enough to do what's right? Too many weak liberals use that argument in their case to ban guns. Because they're afraid they would use them if they lost their temper, they assume everyone is that weak. Don't project your weaknesses on everyone else.z |
That's my issue too.. Call me whatever bad names you like, but I prefer the .gov to spend it's money on programs that show results. There is no evidence whatsoever that abstinence education reduces the spread of STD's or reduces unwanted pregnancies. They've taken money away from programs that have shown results like free STD screening, other forms of education, and charity birth control in favor of abstinence pamphlets and telling people "no". Telling people "no" doesn't work. The oft-repeated quote I hear from the holier-than-thous is "Abstinence works every time it's tried". Perfectly true in an individual sense, but there remains no evidence that these programs lead to more people in a given group abstaining despite years of these sorts of programs in more localized groups. Perhaps someone thinks that the problem is just that they're not trying it on a large enough sample Alternate reality indeed. |
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yea... i will wait.... untill tonight, shit maybe untill my girlfriend gets home from work why wait, what logical reason is there? if proper protection is used(which it usualy isnot, per the increase # in teen mothers) then there is no reason why to wait. if i waited, i would be as mad as those crazy muslims are... 
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Whatever dude. Gov telling people to not have sex is gov control = left.
They are gonna have to pry it FROM MY HOT STICKY HANDS! |
Serious bumper sticker potential
Point is it's a free country. Live and let live. Consenting adults want to play hide the salami it's their right. I'm over 30 and married for 11 years with 2 kids so wtf do I care. But there is a group of "Moral Police" out there that are so hell bent on imposing their puritanical sex hang-ups on people that aren't interested, that they convinced the US Gub'mit to spend $17 mil on investigating a blow-job between consenting adults (I think one of them was over 30).......now this. |
What does an individual's strengths, weaknesses, or individual morals have to do with anything? This is all about ridiculous govt. waste - nanny state BS. |
OK, if you are referring to what I think you are referring to, you are being ridiculous. That investigation was all about abuse of power and corruption - the "blowjob" is simply what started it rolling. It was the cover-up and the actions and people involved that kept the investigation going. |
I would dearly love to save the money, and of course pissing off ROPERS is an added bonus, but when you consider the population trends in Europe, the prolific Wellfare Mothers and Illegal Immigrants that we are breeding may be our only hope for long term victory 
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I like throwing gasoline on fire on cold friday nights(went from 70 last night to 34 tonight) while drinking rum & cokes and anticipating getting a little action from my over 30 wife. I don't disagree w/ your reply btw. |
Awhile back somebody linked an entire website devoted to the topic. |
here is how we stop those phucking phuckers btw I wrote it so "planty ov myzpelled werdz"  Amendment 1.1.1.1.2 It shall be unlawful from this date 12-01-06 for any person to have intercourse with another person,animal,simulated sex object designed in such a way as to insert into the object itself or be inserted into onesself, or other means of reaching orgasm. Congress shall in no way regulate self-gratification commly known as "masturbating" all other sexual oriented means of reaching climax are strictly illegal, punishible by the means set forth: 1)first offense: any persons convicted of sexual contact shall be guilty of a class 1 misdomener and fined not less then Ten Thousand-Five hundred and Eighty dollars but no more than Twenty-Seven Thousand Sixtyfive dollars and/or 10years imprisonment. 2)Second offence: any persons convicted of sexual contact after the first offense shall be guilty of a class 87 offense and be fined Five-Hundered Fifty Thousand dollars and required to castrate ones genitals before a medical examinar who shall sign a contract stating that the castration has been performed including date,time,physician who performed the operation and a law enforcment official as witness.
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+5000. It's not the government's business what I choose to do in private on my own time. How about actually spending the money on WINNING THE WAR...oh wait, nevermind, we're running away from that... 
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