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Originally Posted By fredegar: FAA sued over SpaceX Starship launch program following April explosion lol View Quote
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It doesn’t vent it, it combusts it.
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Preferred Pronoun: Space Lord Mutherfucker
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Originally Posted By fredegar: FAA sued over SpaceX Starship launch program following April explosion lol View Quote |
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Excavation for Starship's New Water Cooled Pad Begins | SpaceX Boca Chica |
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Originally Posted By realwar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfptugkdH0c View Quote
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But he sure found out the hard way
That dreams don't always come true |
Originally Posted By mort: I wonder how much $ Jeff Bezos gave them to sue the FAA? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mort: Originally Posted By fredegar: FAA sued over SpaceX Starship launch program following April explosion lol "Center for Biological Diversity" = 4 leftist agitators. https://www.activistfacts.com/organizations/center-for-biological-diversity/ |
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Originally Posted By David0858:
View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By David0858: Originally Posted By realwar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfptugkdH0c
One of the big differences between SpaceX and the old space companies. SpaceX expects to blow things up and destroy things. They're moving on fixing it right away. Traditional companies would spend 2 years analyzing it, 5 or 10 more years designing something new, and then another 5 or 10 years building it at 10* the original cost or more. |
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You must play the game. You can't win. You can't break even. You can't quit the game.
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Originally Posted By jhereg: One of the big differences between SpaceX and the old space companies. SpaceX expects to blow things up and destroy things. They're moving on fixing it right away. Traditional companies would spend 2 years analyzing it, 5 or 10 more years designing something new, and then another 5 or 10 years building it at 10* the original cost or more. View Quote Yeah... Sweep the pad. Cut out bad chucks, torch out the rebar.. retie. The only slow forn would be is if they want to design changes, other then the already planned system. |
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Originally Posted By David0858:
View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By David0858: Originally Posted By realwar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfptugkdH0c
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Tom Sawyer.
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Not Starship but too cool not to post.
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So are we pretty sure now all those engines would have been firing if not for heavy debris that probably hit them?
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Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: So are we pretty sure now all those engines would have been firing if not for heavy debris that probably hit them? View Quote Scott Manley said three didn’t fire from the beginning and they launched anyway since it was above their minimum However, there also were starting engines in banks, who’s to say if those three were damaged before their bank got the ignition command? |
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Originally Posted By Zam18th: Not Starship but too cool not to post.
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Life is about choices.
If you make a mistake once, it's a mistake. You make the same mistake again, that's a choice. |
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: So are we pretty sure now all those engines would have been firing if not for heavy debris that probably hit them? View Quote Official word is that there is no evidence that any damage was done to the rocket, engines or otherwise from debris. |
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"Never attribute to malice that which can be ascribed to sheer stupidity." LTC (CENTCOM)
"Round is a shape, right? I have the body of a god...Just happens to be Buddah! Az_Redneck |
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Originally Posted By slanted: Scott Manley said three didn’t fire from the beginning and they launched anyway since it was above their minimum However, there also were starting engines in banks, who’s to say if those three were damaged before their bank got the ignition command? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By slanted: Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: So are we pretty sure now all those engines would have been firing if not for heavy debris that probably hit them? Scott Manley said three didn’t fire from the beginning and they launched anyway since it was above their minimum However, there also were starting engines in banks, who’s to say if those three were damaged before their bank got the ignition command? Those three started but were not green to throttle up to 100% so they commanded them to shut down. Per a tweet from Elon last week. |
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SpaceX Starbase Orbital Launch Mount Dog House Removal 4K Starship Super Heavy Boca Chica Beach TX |
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External shell of the LOX tank has been patched.
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No one cared who I was until I put on the mask
USA
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Originally Posted By Zam18th: External shell of the LOX tank has been patched.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvOUKENWIAUTAcx?format=jpg&name=medium View Quote So exactly what I predicted? |
"It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong"
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Originally Posted By t75fnaco3pwzhd: So exactly what I predicted? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/nod-3.gif View Quote Attached File |
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Remorse is for the dead
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2 perfect gifs.
I'm sticking with my June 28th launch prediction. |
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Originally Posted By SpanishInquisition: I'll see your June 28 and raise you... ONE JULY FOURTH! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SpanishInquisition: Originally Posted By Zam18th: 2 perfect gifs. I'm sticking with my June 28th launch prediction. I'll see your June 28 and raise you... ONE JULY FOURTH! |
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Like most Americans, I learned all I needed to know about the Vietnam War by watching M*A*S*H*...
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Originally Posted By AJ_Dual: With all the work being done to the pad/Stage 0, and all the other progress, I don't want the first test flight to be forgotten. Because, it flew. IT FLEW! So with high expectations for a glorious future in space, I'll light some candles in memory of the accomplishment. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/93097/FB_IMG_1683172510801-2805075.jpg View Quote That’s touching. But I don’t think we can ever forget Ship 24 and Booster 7 smoked on 4/20. |
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"Your boos mean nothing. I've seen what makes you cheer."
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The launch pad got hella fucked up.
Why is there no flame trench and no deluge system? ...and why are those cryo tanks so close to it? |
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1. Formerly "Sig_Prude".
2. I am not a pilot. 3. I have never served in the military. 4. Thank you for your service. |
Originally Posted By -SkyRaider-: The launch pad got hella fucked up. Why is there no flame trench and no deluge system? ...and why are those cryo tanks so close to it? View Quote 1. its in a nature preserve. They were given a postage stamp as a launch pad. cryos gotta be close. 2. The flame trench is 360 degrees. 3. they were curious if they needed a deluge right then because the concrete never acted that poorly when they did static fires or previous launches. the concrete destruction was orders of magnitude worse for only 2x the thrust. 4. they are putting an experimental deluge/blast suppressor in right now. |
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No one cared who I was until I put on the mask
USA
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"It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong"
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvLjGcsWIAEkCC1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvLkT8iWIAM7wFG?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 View Quote @Houstons_Problem what say ye to the steam blast shield thing. |
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Looks like someone got video from a nearby passenger plane. Guessing a Mexican flight.
SpaceX Starship Launch Explosion seen from Plane - Elon Musk |
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Tom Sawyer.
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Originally Posted By tortilla-flats: Looks like someone got video from a nearby passenger plane. Guessing a Mexican flight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZutX1PP0BQ View Quote I’m guessing Lufthansa. |
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Originally Posted By tortilla-flats: Looks like someone got video from a nearby passenger plane. Guessing a Mexican flight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZutX1PP0BQ View Quote There was no "smoke trail" like that, and the explosion was horribly done. |
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"the science" /duh si-ens/ noun: progressive postmodern religious dogma not based in tested hypothesis or facts used to advance an authoritative political ideology
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Eh. Comments are saying a render in MSFS.
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Tom Sawyer.
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Originally Posted By Master_of_Orion: For the purposes of landing on the Moon... Gateway is a parasite. It's less expensive to just directly land at any place on the Moon than to stop at the gateway first. The current plan for the gateway is for it to be smaller than the ISS by a lot. It's basically a hut. I would agree that a good use for it would be as a temporary living area to facilitate the building of a large rotating Space Station. Materials for such a station could be mined, refined, and launched from the Moon. The Moon is a great place to go if your goal is to exploit its resources to build a Space Station to use for refining asteroids. Once built, start with the Near Earth Asteroids... the ones that often pass between the Earth and the Moon (several a month do this) and any that may one day impact Earth. Once you've cleared those out then start on the asteroid belt. View Quote |
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If Michelle Obama weren't a man, she'd have a yatch.
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople: He is putting a bandaid on a gaping wound. He needs to have outside folks come in and review his systems. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AmericanPeople: Originally Posted By mousehunter: They were building a system of water cooled steel plates to protect the concrete before the launch - but had not had time to install it. My humble understanding is was going to be a steel sandwich with water cooling in the center. They believed the active water cooling on the back side of the plate could prevent the front side from melting due to the rockets - with the plates protecting the concrete from the direct fire of the blast. Of course, if the water flash vaporizes - I bet Musk could get a bigga boom. I can not see how heat almost capable of melting steel on one side would not boil water on the other. He is putting a bandaid on a gaping wound. He needs to have outside folks come in and review his systems. Musk was mentally prepared to completely rebuild stage 0, the tower and everything before he hit the big red button. Facts are 95% of this untested launch system performed as designed and the only thing I would personally be concerned with is the supersonic concrete pieces leaving the site. The fact that they are not demoing the Stage zero and tower and going to some other plan says a lot more than some GD spelunkers. |
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If Michelle Obama weren't a man, she'd have a yatch.
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Originally Posted By AJ_Dual: With all the work being done to the pad/Stage 0, and all the other progress, I don't want the first test flight to be forgotten. Because, it flew. IT FLEW! So with high expectations for a glorious future in space, I'll light some candles in memory of the accomplishment. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/93097/FB_IMG_1683172510801-2805075.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By tortilla-flats: Looks like someone got video from a nearby passenger plane. Guessing a Mexican flight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZutX1PP0BQ View Quote Highly doubtful especially with the NOTAM notice. No planes are going anywhere near the area of that launch. |
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Fuck Cancer. Love you Pop.
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Originally Posted By wwace: you all seem to think Musk gives a fuck Musk was mentally prepared to completely rebuild stage 0, the tower and everything before he hit the big red button. Facts are 95% of this untested launch system performed as designed and the only thing I would personally be concerned with is the supersonic concrete pieces leaving the site. The fact that they are not demoing the Stage zero and tower and going to some other plan says a lot more than some GD spelunkers. View Quote Also, *WHAT* "outside people"? The ones who have already proven themselves incapable of developing better rockets? |
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The Design Flaw That Caused The Starship Launchpad to Fail! |
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Originally Posted By Chokey: thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvJc2wkyekU View Quote Good video. Zack nailed that one. |
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Lunar Starship control panel of some sort.
Makes sense that they'd lean on what they've already developed for dragon. Zooming in, I can make out what looks like "approach phase" and "landing" on the bottom. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvsnYJPaYAEnXjK?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 |
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Originally Posted By Zam18th: Lunar Starship control panel of some sort.
Makes sense that they'd lean on what they've already developed for dragon. Zooming in, I can make out what looks like "approach phase" and "landing" on the bottom. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvsnYJPaYAEnXjK?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvsnYJPaYAEnXjK?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 View Quote He is heavily involved in lunar Starship controls so not surprised to see him in this shot. Nick |
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If the enemy is range, so are you.
Don't mind Sylvan, he's fond of throwing intellectual Molotov cocktails. |
Originally Posted By Commando_Guy: Hah! I recognize the guy in the background from when I was down at Starbase in February. Talked for a while and gleaned lots of interesting info. He is heavily involved in lunar Starship controls so not surprised to see him in this shot. Nick View Quote I can't wait to see the prototype. It's going to be a fascinating vehicle. |
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KF7WNX If you want a picture of the future, imagine Clownshoes stomping on a human face—for ever.
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Re: throat film cooling manifold
ETA Full test
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Narrated SpaceX Starbase, Tx Flyover Update! 10-minute videos are back! |
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Originally Posted By fredegar: SpaceX hires former NASA human spaceflight official Kathy Lueders to help with Starship View Quote That's excellent. Kathy went from Commercial Crew to head of human spaceflight at NASA; she could not be a better fit. |
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Scepticism is an exercise, not a life; it is a discipline fit to purify the mind of prejudice and render it all the more apt, when the time comes, to believe and to act wisely. -- George Santayana
Never mistake a clear view for a short distance. |
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